Region locked giveaways are allowed but they need to specify that's it's region locked
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Maybe, I can't tell for sure, but I'm nearly sure that there was nothing stated at the beginning of the bundle, and you can't blame anybody for buying bundle in first minutes, then not checking HB page every few days to check if perhaps what he bought is region locked.
Still, HB's fault.
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Yeah, not safe to assume the worst on this one or the Capcom one, I think those were the two big ones for 'region-locked-without-warning'. :/
And apparently everyone was still paying ROW prices, so it's pretty counter-intuitive if you didn't catch notice of it. :/
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It's not an issue affecting Steamgifts.
When you pay ROW prices, you usually get ROW keys- because, after all, that's the price you're paying.
If you're getting a product for a country with a weaker currency, you should be paying that weaker currency.
Put one way, people were complaining because they were paying something like $5, but now only getting $1 of product.
The entire point of region-locking, after all, is to allow people to pay local prices for the products, without leading to exploiting of the global market.
But here, they had region-locking while still paying ROW prices.
It's basically like going to the local farmer, and him demanding you pay high import fees, despite all his produce being home-grown.
The rest of the matter is just inconvenience- that part..
Well, while Humble did- as usual- offer refunds if requested, it's still not a very 'fair' situation, now is it? :/
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These are all fair points, but you forget something: you don't actually pay prices on Humble Bundles, it is just convenient to say that for easier communication. They are pay-what-you-want packages made to support game developers/publishers and charities that happen to give you game keys or similar digital goodies in return for your contribution. If they would really be serious about selling bundles as products, then many European countries could also argue with you that they have to pay VAT on top and don't get any premium for the bigger money investment, rendering their ROW keys (if they even get ROW keys and not EU-locked ones) are worth less than the ones bought in North America.
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I didn't forget anything. I was trying to convey the point as it was explained to me by the numerous individuals were were upset over the matter after the fact :P
Please note that THIS is the only topic I'm attempting to clarify: And apparently everyone was still paying ROW prices, so it's pretty counter-intuitive if you didn't catch notice of it. :/
The point is that the current approach is not what people'd expect- regardless of if you can justify it or not- and so the keys not being ROW wasn't something that occurred to many people- and when they realized after the fact, given the circumstances I described, they were understandably ticked off at the misrepresentation.
As to your point, I imagine the $1 minimum for steam keys could be locked by Steam itself- who I believe is responsible for that minimum in the first place- to ROW, which would create an inability to adjust it for region-locked copies.
Still wouldn't change the fact that Humble- who, mind you, I quite respect- totally dropped the ball on properly detailing region-locking, region-restrictions, and combined tier keys for recent bundles. :/
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Right. That's the factor. Since the lock is publisher-required, not Steam or Humble, the question is, why does the Publisher want to give lower valued keys for the same price?
Hmm, yeah, the intuitive answer to that isn't a respectable one :P
There's all sorts of situational conditions you can put into effect, trying to justify it, but it still mostly seems on the surface a sketchy situation.
But, more importantly, it's the lack of stating the region-locking upfront, WHILE retaining ROW prices, that's the distasteful bit. :X
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or cut the person some slack because its not their fault its not activatable in your region and ask for a reroll (the non douche solution).
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or that, either way it can be a pain, GF had to reroll like 6 times on a DLC because everyone had it,makes me wonder if thats the norm and I should stay away from doing DLCs, would not look forward to asking for so many rerolls and being asked to provide proof of them having it, way too much work for trying to give away something. DLCs should require a little more than just a click to enter
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There are 3 problems with DLCs:
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Weird. because I get "Bioshock Infinite: Columbia's Finest is already in your Steam library" when I browse to the page.
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Yes, I did. There might be different packages id between the Steam store version and the retail keys.
Now that I think about it, I have a similar issue with Arma 2. There are two different ID for the game, and the Arma X pack I got it from included a different one than the one on the NA Steam Store.
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yeah, recently i started searching for "dlc" and hiding all that i own, its quite annoying when they pop in the normal search and i have to rethink if i have it or not and go check to confirm
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If you believe that the creator had bad intentions, just explain to him the situation, he has 7 days to provide you with working key, otherwise mark as not received.
If you believe that the creator didn't have bad intentions, tell him to delete the giveaway, and agree on that, so he can re-create it with proper region.
If you ask me, I think he didn't know about region lock, HB started doing that recently, so I'd go with non-douche version.
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It's always better for your own morale to assume an honest mistake, especially as you don't lose anything for giving them the benefit of the doubt (since if they can't give you a key you can use, you'll still not get one either way- making demanding a key from them a fairly jerk move. :/ )
And since SG doesn't have different CV for different regions, yeah, there's no exploit gain to it.
So definitely assume the best.
To allow them to delete and repost it, you'll have to write in the giveaway itself, a comment that says "I agree to cancel' or 'I agree to the deletion'- otherwise staff won't accept the deletion request.
:)
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i won a grid 2 giveaway, i was so happy....but when i was activating the key steam said i can't buy the game in my country...what should i do now? i think region locked giveways are not allowed right? should i contact support or what?
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