https://twitter.com/nvidia/status/1033379733365501952/photo/1
GeForce RTX GPUs deliver 4K HDR gaming on modern AAA titles at 60 frames per second. https://nvda.ws/2o9nIwk #GraphicsReinvented #gamescom2018
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Benches and reviews are out all over the web.
https://hothardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-performance-and-overclocking
"NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti And RTX 2080 Benchmarks: Turing Is A Beast"
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So, the super-duper brand new 1000-dollar RTX 2080 does the awesome feat of being the same as the 900-dollar GTX 1080 Ti. Watta deal! orders three
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When is the last time you checked 1080 ti prices? $900 is way too high, there are tons of cards available in the $600-700 range.
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It very much depends on region, VAT and vendor greediness.
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I was looking for the most expensive I could find that was not some Extra Special Gold-Encrusted Edition or something. =D Although I saw them more along the 800-ish line. And the 2080 has an MSRP of 1000, so it will probably be in the 900-1200 range.
(Also, either these are oddly specific games or I am really out of the loop, because I never even heard of this 'Strange Brigade' before.)
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I have no idea what Strange Brigade is either. I have only heard of it once because Joker put up a benchmark video of it, but I didn't watch it.
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Well, apparently, a co-op game.
That has been out for a month. And I never even saw anyone ever mentioning it.
With a whopping 15 people watching it now on Twitch.
Incredibly strange pick for a GPU review, picking a game that interests apparently almost nobody among the high-end GPU buying audience.
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And the 2080 has an MSRP of 1000
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487404
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800-1000 range then. ^__^
Still looks to be mostly the same price range or little over the 1080 Ti. (Here, right now, the 2080 is nearly 20% more expensive than a 1080 Ti.) I just don't see it being that useful for a technology that apparently does not even have (m)any released games to use it.
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800-1000 range then.
The highest priced is $870, and the lowest is $750.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126249&cm_re=rtx_2080-_-14-126-249-_-Product
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500436&cm_re=rtx_2080-_-14-500-436-_-Product
Come on, Talgaby, I even gave you a link so you could do a search for yourself. :3
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Hah, maybe there. Here, in local currency, a 1080 Ti is between 240000 and 320000, an RTX 2080 starts at 305000. Quite the gap. (And I shudder to look at the RTX 2080 Ti prices of merely being in the 430k to 480k—1550-1750 USD—range, which is nearly twice my salary…)
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MSRP for the RTX 2080 is actually $700, but it's not surprising to see manufacturers capitalizing on day-one adopters and bumping that up quite a bit. I'd expect the prices to settle out more after 2-3 months.
Personally speaking, I'm waiting to see how the 2070 pans out before making any purchase (MSRP $500)
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Depends. The top-line card is rather expensive, but then again, apparently it is okay now to spend 1400+ US dollars on a fucking consumer-grade non-luxury telephone. Still, despite the article title, it felt more like a justification to buy a 10xx card. :D
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If I had the money to burn, I'd have all the very best, too. I realize I'm not their target audience and take that into account.
Unfortunately, I'm just a working stiff who puts in long days on sore feet, so the 2070 will probably end up being the "sweet-spot" for me. We have another month until their release (edit: exactly a month - October 20th), and no mention of a 2060 at all yet.
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I know you wrote this a while ago, but I just wanted to counter this by saying that you live in Hungary.
So you're doing two things wrong here.
First, you're looking at local prices. As a person who doesn't live in a good location for tech either, it's easy to see that buying locally tends to be the dumbest financial decision you can make. That 10-20€ shipping cost is better than the 150€ price you've tacked on to it.
Second, that $1400 isn't the same value to you as it is to others. 700€ net wage for you. That's obviously not going to be type of wage you'd need to keep up with the enthusiast market. Compare that to the UK's 2400€ or Norway's 3400€ and you have a simple answer as to why you think the way you do.
With most items, the price will inevitably bend to your purchasing power, but considering that these are specialty luxury electronics, you can probably imagine why they're a special case here.
Still, for an average Hungarian, what you're saying is probably 100% on the mark. But considering that this isn't a Hungarian forum, you hopefully can see why I mentioned it.
If I missed something huge with you mentioning you taking these things into account already, then I apologize.
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I wasn't talking about local prices. The original iPhone X, which originally had an MSRP of 1150, was over 1700 USD here—the actual 1400-dollar iPhone Xs goes over 2000 USD in local prices. When I said 1400, I meant the price tag Apple put on it at reveal.
I was actually talking in general: if you are the kind of person who spends 1400+ dollars on something that is essentially a telephone combined with a very small-screen PDA, then apparently it is okay for you to blow several hundred to thousand on a slightly better GPU as well, which only comes with somewhat prettier shadows (at the cost of ridiculous framerate drops) for the increased price tag.
By the way, that 1400-dollar base price is on par with the monthly income of tens of million of US residents as well, just sayin'.
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The original iPhone X, which originally had an MSRP of 1150, was over 1700 USD here—the actual 1400-dollar iPhone Xs goes over 2000 USD in local prices. When I said 1400, I meant the price tag Apple put on it at reveal.
Is the MSRP different, though? A friend just bought it, and he paid exactly the same as last year for the X (in Germany).
EDIT: Yeah, the Apple site lists the same price for the Xs as last year for the X here.
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That one really depends a lot on the store you buy it from. Apple and its officially licensed partners always drop the price of the previous generation, but some retailers adapt to the local market conditions. (This country here has like one actual Apple store I think, with rather limited stock and usually rather bad prices on the phones themselves, mostly selling the Apple-branded accessories.)
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Sure, I bet there are retailers here as well who try to get a few bucks more. I was just wondering about that 1400$ price tag by Apple you were talking about (in comparison to last year's MSRP). I actually saw the keynote, but don't really remember what they said about that. I always thought it's the same price as last year.
EDIT: Oh, you're probably talking about the Xs Max. That one is indeed 1450$ in the highest configuration (512GB). Quite the price for a phone. ^^
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Nope, that thousand-dollar phone last year opened the gates. Now the price breached a critical threshold and now it is climbing every year again. Samsung I know has jumped on the four-digit wagon, some others may have as well. Heck, even Google's new phones have some interestingly large numbers at the front for a phone that was supposed to be mid-range originally.
In this regard, Apple is leading the trend again, a rare sight since Jobs kicked the bucket. I just keep wondering what phone one should even contemplate in the actual mid-range (200-400 USD) now that apparently everyone but the Chinese think that the entire market starts at the 600-dollar price tag.
(I seriously found only one phone recently when my Lumia died, that suited my needs and a price range, that wasn't a new-ish Chinese brand, the Moto G6, and eventually had to buy a Xiaomi, since everyone else was nearly double my budget.)
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Interesting statistics on this topic:
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Apple just removes old phone from offer and change it to new one. Price may stay the same, but at the same time it's not possible to buy previous phone on official site cheaper. If they'd offer both current and previous flagship, they'd need to lower price of old version. And that's big no-no for them.
And I'm not surprised phones are more expensive in Hungary. Here when amazon.de already discounts Galaxy S8 for 500€, polish Samsung branch still sells it for 600€. So in already normal price of this flagship on the west, the best you can buy here is previous flagship (Galaxy S7). We don't have extra taxes that raise electronic price, we're in no-duty zone just like western Europe. But companies don't care about this market, as it's too small for them to bother. Same with dunno... consoles. It's way cheaper to buy console on amazon.de or amazon.uk than to wait few months for similar promotion in Poland.
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Apple just removes old phone from offer and change it to new one. Price may stay the same, but at the same time it's not possible to buy previous phone on official site cheaper. If they'd offer both current and previous flagship, they'd need to lower price of old version. And that's big no-no for them.
Well, at least this time. We could always buy the last gen iPhone cheaper. This is the first time they're not doing it (at least not for the X, iPhone 8 is still available and cheaper, I believe).
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iPhone 8 is not "earlier version" of iPhone Xs. That's why they are still available, it's different price target.
Previously they had only flagships. Then they added "note" phone line as Plus. So 6 Plus, 7 Plus, 8 Plus. And then they decided to throw price off the roof and made X that cost 1000$. iPhone 8 is not connected in any way with X (Xs) line. So it will be sold at the same time.
But iPhone7 is still available, at least on their site here. Can't really compare price though, as 7 is sold in 32GB and 8 with 64GB storage.
(They also released iPhone "poor edition" with plastic case. But no one wanted to buy it, when paying just little more would give people "full" phone. 5S / 5C versions. So they dropped this idea and continued with having 2 flagships per generation - small and note versions)
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I know all that. I mentioned the iPhone 8 because I thought they had released an 8s as well. Turns out they didn't. Lol. ^^
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I wasn't talking about local prices. The original iPhone X, which originally had an MSRP of 1150, was over 1700 USD here—the actual 1400-dollar iPhone Xs goes over 2000 USD in local prices. When I said 1400, I meant the price tag Apple put on it at reveal.
Yeah, but I wasn't either. I was saying that as a consumer, you should be aware that the prices are jacked up in your country and that you can easily get it for the original MSRP, plus the 10-20€ shipping price. Easily. We live in a world where you don't have to rely on your local stores. You can just order it from another country. That's what I'm saying. To say that the iPhone XS there costs $2000 might be true, but it's a null point because you can get it for a better price. $1000-$1349 in fact (64GB-512GB), plus the shipping fee.
So, yeah, you can get it for $2000. But if you're going that route, then just say you can also get it for $1,000,000 because I'm selling it for that price now.
I was actually talking in general: if you are the kind of person who spends 1400+ dollars on something that is essentially a telephone combined with a very small-screen PDA, then apparently it is okay for you to blow several hundred to thousand on a slightly better GPU as well, which only comes with somewhat prettier shadows (at the cost of ridiculous framerate drops) for the increased price tag.
For you. That lack of value is there for you. People use their phones a lot these days. For work, for entertainment, for communications and so on. Phones do almost everything. Paying $1000 for something that'll last you 4 years in extremely active use is not a bad deal in my opinion. Those that buy a new one each year will also either sell or exchange their previous product for the new one, making the cost way lower than the actual price. The "very small-screen PDA" is an argument based out of total ignorance. First of all, screen sizes can't be much bigger. The point of a phone is that you can take it with you everywhere. Second of all, calling it a PDA is like calling a car an air-conditioned seating arrangement. Sure, you can use it for that, but just because you ignore almost everything that it can do, doesn't make it less valuable for anyone else.
The GPU issue is that you seem to go with the idea that those who buy the 2080TI will be people that already have a 1080TI and will probably chuck it in the garbage or something. In reality, they will most likely sell it or find some use for it. Also, most consumers wait until buying something. Again, like a phone, this isn't a yearly purchase. I bought a GTX 1060 6GB version. Before that I had a GT 640 1GB from 2012. I spent way more on my GPU this time, but it was an investment. I was miserable with my weak device. It was way cheaper, granted, but I also couldn't run most games that came out in 2015 or later (sometimes even 2013-2014 games).
So in conclusion:
New models come out each year, but that doesn't mean everyone upgrades.
Those who buy a new model every year tend to sell their previous model for a good portion of the money they spent in the first place.
People buy more expensive stuff to improve their quality of life and as a long-term investment.
Phones aren't just PDAs. Smartphones can basically do everything now. To ignore that is the same as ignoring that the sun emits light.
You can buy things from other countries.
Local places will increase the prices in countries that aren't the UK, Canada, US, Japan and maybe some other huge countries. To mitigate that, just order your phone from there. You get the same product for the original price.
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you should be aware that the prices are jacked up in your country and that you can easily get it for the original MSRP, plus the 10-20€ shipping price
That's not always the case, depending on your country's customs rules. Here for instance if your package from overseas gets checked for its actual value you will be subjected to a fine that equals to the difference between what you paid and the local average cost, plus extra processing fees, so you end up paying more than the local price.
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But don't get it overseas. You're in Italy. The EU. The UK is still in the EU, after all.
I would never suggest someone go as far as ordering from NA while being in Europe, because that will always be a terrible idea considering the whole customs issue.
In reality, every country in the world has one of those main countries close enough to them that they could easily order from them. For the EU it's the UK, for South America/Central America it's North America (The US and Canada), for the Middle-East/some of the southern Asian countries it's India/Australia respectively, for countries like Mongolia and other such places you have Russia/Japan.
Those countries, on average for these luxury products, those tend to be the main countries they're marketed in. Usually with prices that are the US price +/- 20%.
My PC would've cost 1000€ had I bought the parts from the US thanks to customs. In here, Estonia, they would've been around 900€ and when ordering them, with shipping, they cost me
less than 800€. That's the difference you're going to get when ordering from where it's viable for you.
Basically, you know what country you're in and what economic unions you're apart of, so that should help you stay in your lane when ordering.
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But italian prices varies wildly from USA prices and often smartphones and computer hardware are cheaper in the UK or Germany. There are also local taxes, different VAT and other stuff to take into account (like the SIAE tax that here exist for every electronics with internal memory).
In fact, there's a difference of $700 from our Iphone X price with USA's. Way over 10-20%.
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I don't understand.
You say what I say and yet it sounds like you're trying to disagree?
Yes, buy from the UK or Germany. Those countries are cheaper than yours is. It's cheaper to order from there. There are no local taxes, that's just completely inaccurate. At worst you have the VAT tax. Depends on the company, but usually with anyone that's even lightly reputable, the price is calculated with the VAT tax included. You won't pay extra taxes when buying from the EU. That's one of the main reasons the EU exists. You are in the EU. So you also have the same rules as everyone else in the EU.
So I read through what the SIAE tax is and it won't apply to you. Why? Because you're buying from Germany. I'll take it you're talking about the 2001 decision to claim a percentage from every blank HDD, DVD and CD sold in Italy. Well, good news for you, that tax doesn't apply to you since the products aren't sold to you in Italy, but instead they're being sold to you in another country.
When you buy from China, then you have to obide by the Chinese law when purchasing. When importing it, you have to obide by that country's import law that you're importing to (for you it's Italy). Italy won't tax things that aren't sold in its country because it isn't their country.
As to the price, when looking at Amazon, in the UK, the price is £840 (960€) and in the US it's $1,040 (900€). I'm not sure why 60€ extra is over 10-20% according to your calculations when it is in fact ~6.66% higher. Is it higher? Sure. Is it over 20%? 6.66%<20%, so...
Oh, also: This...
It's literally 40€ cheaper in Italy than it is in the US and a whole 100€ cheaper than in the UK...
So, again, I don't understand your comment. Everything that you've said is either very inaccurate or plain wrong, but at the same time you argue against my point while citing my own points as reasons why I'm wrong. I'm not trying to sound condescending, I just perhaps missed something crucial here?
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In the post above you said to buy where it's cheaper and import from overseas. I said that this is not feasible to do all the time because sometimes, depending on local laws and customs, you end up paying more that what you originally envisioned. Either because of taxes or additional fees. That's all.
So I read through what the SIAE tax is and it won't apply to you. Why? Because you're buying from Germany. I'll take it you're talking about the 2001 decision to claim a percentage from every blank HDD, DVD and CD sold in Italy. Well, good news for you, that tax doesn't apply to you since the products aren't sold to you in Italy, but instead they're being sold to you in another country.
Just to be clear, the tax applies to every consumer electronics that has a built in memory storage, so blank disks, but also SDs, memory sticks and hard disks (and of course smartphones and computers, etc). https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equo_compenso_in_Italia
So, again, I don't understand your comment. Everything that you've said is either very inaccurate or plain wrong, but at the same time you argue against my point while citing my own points as reasons why I'm wrong. I'm not trying to sound condescending, I just perhaps missed something crucial here?
No, nothing like this. I was just pointing out a detail about importing stuff from other countries..
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In Tomb Raider atleast, a 2080 sometimes even seems to do worse then a 1080 TI.
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Well, it was made by Eidos Montreal. When was the last time they managed to create a game engine where the code did not look like as if a coked-up chihuahua dragged a half-chewed roll of gum to wrestle with itself in a gigantic spaghetti bowl? Getting strange results on it, considering their last famous attempt, Deus Ex 4 somehow managed the impossible feat of losing framerate on DX12 compared to DX11 (granted, on Nvidia only), is essentially granted. I am surprised there is an Earth-made GPU that can run that Tomb Raider game without tentacles spontaneously emerging from the PC case.
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Not to defend Deus Ex 4, but it's not Eidos Montreal's fault. The game actually performs quite well in DX11 - on par with Rise since it's the exact same engine and DX12 implementations are still wonky on every game so far under Nvidia hardware. Even Battlefield V performs worse on DX12, despite being optimized for Nvidia cards.
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The cards show a decent improvement compared to the previous gen (for the same model), but Nvidia is charging a ludicrous premium for having the RTX technology. The problem is that Nvidia knows that having ray tracing enabled is going to destroy the performance of the cards and nobody is going to want to use it until at least one or two more generations. Because of this, Nvidia is probably not allowing game developers to enable ray tracing on launch because it will get bad reviews and they want to wait until enough people shell out a ton of money for this new technology so they can be disappointed later. The cards are good at rasterisation, but that increase in performance alone is not worth the massive increase in price.
I think ray tracing will be a great technology and make games look much better, but I just don't think the performance will be there in the first gen of GPUs. I think most people will opt to turn the features off and play at higher resolutions and frame rates.
I also think Nvidia chose to launch these cards at such a ridiculously high price because they have a massive overstock of 10 series cards because they made too many on the hopes that they would sell to miners, but that fell through. They need to sell off the rest of the 10 series and don't want to make these cards competitive or else they will have to reduce the price of the 10 series or nobody would buy them.
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What, you mean that people buying the RTX 2080 for their 4K monitors won't be thrilled at the prospect of playing at 1080p with ray-tracing turned on?
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Yes, with ray tracing turned on and still not able to maintain 60fps, even at 1080p, and that is on the 2080 ti. The 2080 and 2070 with ray tracing enabled will probably be a joke and need to be played at 720p to get a decent frame rate.
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https://youtu.be/o1DoG6uTYBg?t=8m41s
2080Ti as a card for 1100$ still can't play games at ultra 4K with stable 60 FPS. I really though top tier GPU from this generation won't have problem with that. Plus it's hairworks / RTX / physx off.
Also final power consumption will be higher, as now RTX units are turned off.
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While most reviews compare the RTS cards to the Founders Addition of the 1080 Ti (that had worse performance due to their restrictive cooler), this review uses AIB cards from EVGA and ASUS for a more realistic comparison: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3365-nvidia-rtx-2080-founders-edition-review-benchmarks-vs-gtx-1080-ti
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gamers nexus has two nice videos on the
rtx 2080
and
rtx 2080 ti
plus
a buildzoid pcb breakdown for us enginerds.
highly recommended to watch.
yes, they are somewhat faster but the cost is just insane.
also the main selling point for this was the rtx stuff and with that box ticked you have good chances of running your 4k fun into the ground or making your 144hz 1080p panel pretty useless.
sadly they can't test that since there is not one single fucking game or tool that does anything with with the new rtx stuff.
however the short version is:
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Kek, a 2080 has the same performance of the cheaper 1080ti, needs more energy and produces more heat. It isn't even powerful enough for playing at 4K/60 fps, for which it was designed and marketed. All for €800. What a joke.
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They have learned from Apple. "Put absurdity prices on your products, people will buy it anyway and you will be more rich".
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I'll probably just buy another 1080ti again...
shouldn't have sold my last one in retrospect...
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From JayzTwoCents he says "don't buy it... for now"
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review from Paul's Hardware
the benchmarks
conclusions from tests
TL;DR
if you get a 1080 as a base you pay 45% more for 25% more performance, and for 2080 ti you pay 118% more for 50% more performance
for 1080 ti as a base, for a 2080 you are paying 14% more for 5% LESS performance, and for a 2080 ti you are paying 71% more for 14% more performance
Note: I saw some other benchmarkers having 1-2% improvement from 1080 ti to 2080, so it may vary a little depending on other PC components, in any case you see how stupid it is.
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First tests of 2070. Sadly in 3DMark. But if gaming tests will have the same results, then we will get 1080 in price of 1080. After two years. And RTX cores that will be unused, as there are no games that can use them right now and in reasonable future. Rather bad deal.
Also looks like 2060 will be on price level of current 1070.
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I would definitely suggest avoiding the 970 atp, espectially considering the whole 3.5GB vram issue.
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Get an RX 580. It works great at 1080p and isn't that expensive compared to other choices.
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Pass, my 970 still runs everything great.
I imagine games will require better monitors before I need a better card.
And then shortly after that I'll have to get the new nvidia eyeballs to see any improvement after that.
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Or buy Oculus rift or Vive and then you will need better card ;-)
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Cheap solution: decrease the resolution/quality and increase the distance to the monitor.
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thats what I do when playing games on my Oculus rift with R9 270 :-) lowest details and no dioptric glasses (they do not recommend glasses in VR head set - it can scratch optics...)
and Im happy with it (but also planning some better GPU...)
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True. For example, depending on the distance to your monitor there's a point when you cannot distinguish between 4K and 1080p. And the difference in hardware and costs to render the higher resolution is huge.
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You should shut your damn mouth and be thankful , 1 usd equals 6 turkish liras in turkey at the moment.That means any product 6 times expensive than the normal price of other countries, and with taxes, a regular gtx 1080 ti costs approximately 6000 liras and meanwhile i'm still trying to survive.
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Ahhh, I highly recommend you actually mention whether you're serious or not...
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You're asking people to compare what they have to something worse and be happy with what they have. That's literally the worst idea humanity (mainly religion) has ever created.
So Turks can buy a 2080Ti with approximately 7 minimum wages. There are some people in different countries who need 11 minimum wages to buy it so we should stop complaining and be happy ? That's paradoxical and counter productive.
I'm as sick and tired as you for being punished because of the stupidity of the masses but there's nothing we can do about it at the moment. Let people enjoy things.
Also, I'm pretty sure Nvidia went with this pricing in order to milk the early buyers. They'll most likely make some good discounts on Black Friday, they seem pretty scared of AMD's 7nm tech.
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What's the difference between 7 or 11 wages ? I'm being punished here actually if my words hurt your feelings then come and live in my country to see how it actually feels like to be punished. I have my rights to talk about this . Fck greedy Turkish govenment and fck rich people who see everything as they want
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Believe what you want to believe that's your call , also i don't remember saying lower wage is the worst of all . There are multiple reasons. But when it comes to ruining something that i enjoy , that's when i get pissed. We're not poor at all but our government trying to make us poor with high taxes and lower wages. That causing unproductiveness and increasing easy jobs because when we see our businesses can't make profits , we start quitting and government does nothing about it. No support , no helping hands , no funds. That's why Turkey is Doomed and i'm angry .I'm actually sad tho.
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Have you considered trying to move to another country? It would be tough, but if you're still young it's probably best to try and get out before things get really bad (even tourists are starting to avoid your country).
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jiggakills Nobody wants Turks in their country nowadays unless we're hella rich.
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Got any user a 2080Ti from Germany who pre-order it?
I still don't got it. (Agando still have nothing) :(
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Meanwhile i just uppgraded from my r9 290x to a 1071 TI and have close to no reason to even think about an uppgrade in a long time.
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To be fair, unless you strive for ultra details at 60 fps the 290X was still a solid choice, on par with a 970.
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It was not keeping 60FPS on some newer games, And i went from 80-110 fps in PUBG to 95-150 fps, Wich is nice!
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That was also my exact same upgrade route, although I did it because both of my cards, one R9 290X and a regular 290, died within weeks of eachother recently. My preference would have been Vega 64, but that was still too pricey where I live, so it was a reluctant switch to evil Team Green. The first shock were the drivers. Hot damn, Nvidia is still stuck in Windows XP with that shitty control panel of theirs, and then you have to sign up with your email if you want Shadowplay. Such bollocks. Pretty good framerate on the new card though, I guess, although rendering performance for multimedia work was underwhelming. The 1070 Ti, strong as it is, is still no match for Vega 64's Open CL compute performance, so I am a bit miffed.
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If you're interested in video rendering, a 580 is a solid and not that expensive choice. It does not perform like a 1070 with games, but AMD is pretty much required for renderings and the Vega cards are too expensive.
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In both Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve and Adobe Premiere CC, which is what I use, the 1070 Ti beats the 580 handily. It loses to the Vega in the former, but even beats it in the latter. The RX 580 would have barely been an upgrade from my 290X (+ 290) and in some cases even a downgrade, and if I'm spending money then I'm not going to pay for what amounts to negligible improvement over my 4 year old cards. Needless to say, for gaming it's no contest for the Nvidia card compared to the 580. I have a 4K monitor and usually game at 1440p on newer titles and 4K if I can, so a 580 sadly just doesn't cut it. Vega 64 would have been my preferred choice but was above my price range. Hopefully Navi will deliver and I may sell my current card then and jump ship if the situation warrants it and I can afford to.
Source benchmarks:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/DaVinci-Resolve-15-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-Performance-1264/
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/DaVinci-Resolve-14-NVIDIA-GeForce-vs-AMD-Radeon-Vega-1213/
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2018-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2080-2080-Ti-Performance-1244/
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Well the 1070ti costs double the price of a 580 8 gb, no shit that it performs better lol. Put it against a 1060 and the 580 blows it away for rendering purposes, while still costing less than $250.
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Well, 6GB of VRAM aren't enough for rendering/colour grading native 4K video with more than a couple OpenFX effects nowadays, so if you're serious about video editing that disqualifies the 1060 by default anyway. Heck, even 8GB just about cuts it for some of the more complex scenes I threw at the card, it actually had me a bit worried at times, which is crazy if you think about it.
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Does well in 4K but I don't have 4K monitor and I think it's useless to have it, and in 1080p and 2K doesn't do anything impressive against my current GPU.
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https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/remedy-shows-rtx-raytraing-performance-cost.html
Demo from Remedy. Right now at FHD it adds 9,2ms to every frame. To have 60 FPS you must render frame every 16,6ms. So turning on RayTracking drops FPS from 60 to 40.
Still it's demo from early implementation, hopefully it will work way better in future.
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And I know how Nvidia will show that 2060 is better than 1060 :hehe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFSLro_OXLQ&app=desktop
There is also problem with turning on G-sync on multi-GPU PCs:
https://topworldtimes.com/nvidia-gpu-performance-craters-when-g-sync-sli-are-used-together/ - it'd just need testing on screen with >60 Hz to confirm
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Any reports about Gainward 2080Ti Phoenix?
My card still running good since 1 week
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I saw that majority of people have problem with Founders Edition. May be that changes made by Asus, Gigabyte, MSI and so on make them less prone for this error.
But if anything would start to happen, you should send it to RMA right away, maybe linking that a lot of other users have the same problem. So they won't even think about "oh but it works fine on our internal test" response :P
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It can always happen. To me too. But I just want feedback about these. :D
Finger crossed :D
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Well, what can you expect from a 1000+ bucks card? To function correctly? Don't be silly.
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Ray tracing benchmark is out boys! Enjoy the "RTX on" @ 50fps/1080p for 2080ti. :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpZmH0_1gWQ
P/s - Glad I waited out before early adopting this expensive mother.
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Yeah, pretty much expected this. Anyone who expected amazing performance for a new tech in it's infancy was honestly delusional. This will take a few years/generations of cards to mature.
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NVidia finally admitted that their cards are faulty. Or more like Limited test escapes from early boards caused the issues some customers have experienced with RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition.
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Didn't find anything here about it, so here you go. This will change a little game graphics.
Edit:
Here are some demos for the RTX along with some new trailers for upcoming games.
According to Nvidia this is the result of 10 years of work, trial and error, so this is just the start of companies embracing the new tech. For now RTX cards are expensive, but in the fast evolving world of technology, arguably it will be soon overshadowed by the 3080 or, why not, some new AMD cards, for the sake of competition.
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