Hi SG community, the last days i've been looking into what's possible coming to steam through the greenlight feature.

I ended up finding a lot of games that doesn't seem to deserve a place at the store receiving much votes and they will sure be released.

I found good games too, new mechanics, good history, fluid gameplay, great art.

But looks like they are becoming minority.

What do you think about it?

PS: I don't work for valve, not yet, it's just curiosity and i always wanted to make a thread and a train, now i've made both :].

The little lvl2+ train is here ENDED


Thanks for all the answers guys, and to those who entered my little train too.


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What do you think about steam greenlight?

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It's an excellent option for indie developers.
It's good, but getting full of not well developed games.
I don't really use it.
What's that?
I prefer Potatolight.
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i think its a good idea in paper, allow the community to steer the direction of a game can only make a great game for them and potentially a lot of peeps, unfortunately its more used to sell half-baked ideas, dem Day-Z its never gonna come out of it.

A good incentive to developers to get their games out of early access is to steam steadily lowers the price of the game, the longer your game is on EA, the less money it makes you >:D, but steam dosent care... why would they tbh.

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Yeah, on paper is definitely good, but doesn't work really well.
And the idea about EA is good too, maybe if all early greenlighted were released on EA with lower prices, people could try it out, if the sales go well and the game gets at least neutral reviews it could finish the EA and go full price.
Otherwise, it could be removed from the store, and if removed the developer next game would have to get even more votes to pass the greenlight.

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thanks for the train :3

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One photo says more than a thousand words.
And i can really read your opinion through that gif, it's not hard, if i can say so. :p

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lol

it's not that all games that are bad. there's always a gem that comes out of greenlight.
but there's so much trash it's hard to like the greenlight system.

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Yeah, sadly there aren't so much gems, but it's pleasing to see a gem you found being released.
And you're right, the system itself, or at least how it's working right now, is hardly likeable.

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Honestly, it offers a good opportunity for developers BUT i feel like it's getting abused... crappy games end up being greenlit and there are lots of examples where people just vote games through greenlight because they're offered something for free if they do.

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Yeah, i've seen people doing that some time ago.
But i haven't seen it anymore, the "key in exchange for vote" thing, i wonder if that practice got somehow illegal at the greenlight.
It would be a good start, but doesn't solve the problem.

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It's shit.

Thanks for asking.

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A direct answer.

Thanks for answering.

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Greenlight is an excellent example of what people will do with unbridled freedom.
As Luchingador (indeed, most people probably), it's a good idea in theory. Two problems: 1) It's available to the Internet - Steam no less - where trolls reign and anybody who can just have the thought "I want to..." can peddle their... [insert noun]. 2) Valve's hands-off approach, hence unbridled freedom (because, as has been proven, the $100 entry fee is nothing).
Can't even really have much of a hope for even decent games anymore, because they will be lost in the inundation of "baby's first demo." Plus, most Steam users who vote on Greenlight seem to be too far-gone to care anymore and actively seek out the terrible games, to vote them on. For the lelz. The lulz. The cancer.

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It's pretty nice and offers a way for games like Tale of Wuxia and The Gate of Firmament to make it on Steam, and that's all I ask for.

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These two are really well made, it feels so good when i see a great game like this on greenlight.

I'll be looking foward the second one.
Thanks for the "tips".

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The idea is nice but the execution is really really bad.

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Steam greenlight is an excellent idea for small developers, but it's sadly misused, because it is full of either stupid games or games full of bugs.

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Steam is full of crap games. Not just from Indy dev's either. So I don't mind, if I don't want the game I won't buy it. It doesn't bother me one bit if they get on the store though. I generally don't just buy random games anyway. Hell even with Bundles and on here I try to stick to what I know I want, and if it doesn't tickle me, I put it up for someone else to enjoy.

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It has the same problem as the whole of social media. Anybody can put up anything for any reason and then it's just a popularity contest. There could be some really great stuff out there, but who has the time to go looking?

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I agree with the no.1 vote, I could only describe it as sometimes a gem emerges from the trash that is the greenlight in general.

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Hmmm... Greenlight in theory is good but there's not enough rules or system to filter it, I think...

And about game quality, because now it's easy to apply patch/update, often unfinished game get released first due to deadline or else then just update later @_@

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It's the primary source of shovelware.

Now can we move on to the next item in today's agenda? I hate these board meetings.

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It's not a bad concept, but the utter lack of regulation has led to it being completely overwhelmed by shady developers peddling broken promises in return for a vague hope of profiting from their scamware. It's sad to say but at this stage if greenlight were to be obliterated by a rogue asteroid then nobody would bother turning up for its funeral.

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^ This

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Very few gems in the sea of mediocrity... :(

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In general, even if the overall quality may have decreased and there's the occasional outright scam, I'm happy with Steam having opened up and allowing more and more games on to the store. Even the most loved games on Steam have their haters, and sometimes the least popular games still have a few dedicated fans who'd be heartbroken if a game they loved was deemed unfit for Steam.

Greenlight's place in this is awkward, though. On the one hand, Greenlight was introduced to streamline the process of getting games on Steam, and it's a success in that sense. On the other, it can also hurt good developers, who suffer from an additional expense and have to take part in an annoying popularity contest where good PR is rewarded more than good development.

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What soiled Greenlight's reputation early on was the huge number of games that bribed their way into the store with a-copy-for-your-vote style promotions. Which a number of them didn't even deliver. Now it remains as a testament of of the fact that people will always find creative ways to abuse systems with little to no oversight.

That's not to say that no good games have come out of it. It's just that they're being obscured by hundreds of mediocre titles that never deserved their time in the limelight.

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I agree with most of the users here. There are some good games, but the overall impression you get is that it's full of mediocrities which mostly copy other games with little innovation of their own.

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green bump

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Hmmm, you're right, i forgot to add that, i'll have to think a little more next time... WAIT! They're making HL3? |◉ᗜ◉|

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Greenlight is a fantastic place and way to make great games become a reality. But so, so many people are exploiting GL with asset-flips, incredibly low-quality mobile ports and so on.
GL is good to have, but is in desperate need of quality control, as it's name soon will turn into a swear.

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