Unless its a private giveaway, and the rules are approved by the mods themselves its just fine.
But for public giveaways,
people are bothering with generic "thanks", rather than asking for a "real" thanks from person to person is just absurd.
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Pretty much this, mods won't reroll a public/large group giveaway based on someone making their own rules.
If a user wants to enforce this rule it needs mod approval and can only be for small private groups or private giveaways.
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There is no rule saying people have to do it, so no worries. If they don't send the gift it will be marked against the creator as "not received" as support won't reroll it.
Even in private GAs, the user must state that the rule was approved by a mod (and they must seek said approval ahead of time).
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You do need to get it approved, but you dont need to say it was approved in the giveaway.
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Can you tell me the source for this?
"the user must state that the rule was approved by a mod"
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The FAQ says, "Extraneous/special rules for giveaways require moderator approval. Public giveaways cannot have any special rules."
Therefore, the person entering the giveaway is likely to assume that any rules stated are not approved until told otherwise. The rules don't say that anyone needs to inform anyone of anything, but it would be obtuse/silly not to do so, once approval had been gained. Otherwise the giveaway creator is simply baiting the giveaway entrant to report them.
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It's their own fault for making assumtions. It's not like a comment to enter rule is especially difficult to complete, most users will thank the creator regardless.
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Actually, I'm fairly certain that posting "Do X or I will request a reroll" without moderator approval can get you suspended if you do it repeatedly (whether in public or private giveaways.)
It's an (implicit) declaration that you either are creating a giveaway with the intention of sometimes not sending the game to some categories of valid winners, or that you will send in a support ticket that you know to be groundless. Doing either is against the rules, which means that if you announce that you intend to do so in a giveaway, you've publicly announced your intention to violate the rules. Given that it's such an unusual thing to do (unusual enough that it's not spelled out explicitly), you might get away with it for a while, but repeatedly declaring your intention to either create giveaways and then not give the gift to the winner, or to harass the staff with reroll requests you know are not valid?
Obviously you're going to get timed out for that eventually.
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That moderator approval is necessary. If I just write some special rule and I don't state i've asked moderators (thus I know how SG rules work), people won't know if I actually requested permission or I just don't know the rules and made up something random.
That unless moderators want people to report every giveaway with special rules asking if it is legit or made up.
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They shouldn't. They should get 'not received', that is all. I would also say plain and simple, but that's apparently not the case.
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Now that the correct answer has been provided, we can all get back to the important business of changing each other's deeply entrenched views about the importance of thanking in giveaways again ¬_¬
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Yes Woodchuck, we really need to focus on changing each deeply other's entrenched views. :P
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You missed the point. It's asking for it what makes it selfish.
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They can request a giveaway all they want. They won't get one, though, not unless it's in one of the approved categories. "Didn't post a generic meaningless thanks" is definitely not in the approved categories!
(That said, if you're entering a giveaway for something like that and all they want is a thanks, post a thanks, if it means that much to them. Partially because you know, whatever, it takes 10 seconds and avoids ugly arguments and everything; if they went to the trouble to make a giveaway and it really means that much to see a long line of explicit rather than implicit identical thanks, sure, whatever. But I don't think they should actually be able to get a reroll -- if they want to be able to control who can win their gifts in a fine-grained fashion and only give it to the worthy or properly thankful or respectful people or whatever, they should set up / join a private group, or give it via another channel entirely.)
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Private is fine, some groups do it also and thats fine, public...no, just no.
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What's the point of not thanking? Is it so hard for you to take 3 seconds and thank the guy giving away a game, even if you don't win it? Just shows what kind of person you are. Just saying.
Also, when I open a giveaway and people comment, it makes me happy to see the comments and I try to reply to each one. That's how it goes for me.
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Yeah, but I think that there's a difference between personal thank-yous and copy-pasted "thanks!"
And either way, I do think that trying to force people to thank you (even if it's just by threatening to take back the gift you were giving them) is a rotten thing to do; it defeats the purpose of thanks. Worse, once you've started doing it, wouldn't you have to suspect that every future thank you get is hollow and empty and only being given to you because you tried to force it?
I mean, it's self-defeating.
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Does it feels nice to force others to appreciate you?
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The thing is he can do as he pleases regardless of the nature of a giveaway. It's just socially unacceptable to ask for a gratitude, implicitly or otherwise.
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And it's our right, and our privilege, to jeer him for it.
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If the raffle is void of comments I will usually say something along the lines of thanks but I normally never say thanks like that. I either thank them personally if they add me on steam or I leave a thanks in the comments after I've won if they email it to me. They'll probably never even read that but hey, it's the thought.
The comments section is kind of a bore for giveaways; if it's not some idiot saying FIRST, it's either a swarm of meaningless thanks or an accusation that the raffle is fake. SSDGiveaway
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so many people talk about "MY FEELINGS" nowadays. It's completely retarded.
You're making a giveaway on a website that explicitly tells you not to be a douchebag and not to create your silly little rules when creating a giveaway.
"You must thank me or you won't get the prize" - go be an attention whore somewhere else.
Seriously, what's wrong with the people who create such giveaways? Just how miserable do you have to be that you actively seek attention online? -An doing just that which is described in the OP of all things.
This comment might make me less popular of a guy. But I don't care. I thank people on the giveaways that I find I really like. But a thank you is a sign of respect and SHOULD be sincere. If you're forcing someone else to thank you for the candy you're giving them, much like you do to a child, you're an effing sociopath and I hope to god you change your behaviour, or you won't have many friends and much success in life.
To everyone else in this thread, sry for the rant. I personally haven't come accross one such giveaway, but it really grinded my gears to know there's pricks out there who do as described in the OP.
EDIT - Also, I always thank the person who sends me the key. Privately.
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I feel people who need to feel good about gifting games and want these e-thanks, need to be kicked out of this website.
No one is forcing you to gift games, if you do - you do it out of the need to either 1) increase your CV or 2) the goodness of your heart. You should not expect thanks for it, but since the admins here don't crack down on it, we have some of the most stupidest reasons used by people as reasons to re-roll.
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those people shoud not gift games at all if they get their panties wet over a spam comment.
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While a few do, there aren't many users at all who actually demand thanks on their giveaways.
The vast, vast majority of stipulation-type giveaways simply ask for a comment. Entrants are usually free to be thankful, to post something random, or to describe in eye-watering detail what anatomically improbable act the gifter can perform with their request. It matters not, so long as a comment is made. Aside from abject laziness, I see little reason for anyone to get upset about this.
For the handful of people asking for thanks in their giveaway, if it means that much to them, why not simply do it? Many do this routinely anyway... If you can't bring yourself to do so, you'd only feel awkward about accepting a game from them...
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"Thank you for creating a giveaway that I won't win."
Why would someone thank someone for creating a giveaway??
I would only say thank you if I win a giveaway.
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I had no idea people did this.
I was honestly amazed at how many people posted Thank You when i dropped my first giveaway.
It's just politeness. The moment you try to turn it into a kind of social currency you're just acting like a stinky twat.
And nobody likes a stinky twat :P
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Public giveaways cannot have any kind of rules. Reroll requests based on those are immediately denied.
Group and private giveaways may have rules if they're approved by a moderator beforehand. If a rule is approved, reroll requests regarding that rule are processed, otherwise, the gifter is notified that their rule was not approved, and their request is denied.
While it's necessary for gifters to clearly indicate the rule in the giveaway description, it's not required to say that their rule was approved by support, but I'd personally recommend saying it if your rule got support approval.
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I see this every now and again. There is nothing in the rules that forces you to say thank you. Saying thank you, to me and most other sensible people, is a generic and meaningless reply. I know I, and others, would prefer a proper thank you when you receive / win the gift, but could care less about the spam a lot of people seem to love.
So tell me, will they be able to reroll the giveaway if someone does not say thank you? It seems ridiculous to me that people can make up their own rules like that.
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