I don't care for a debate. Just for people to stop abusing words. A jew is a jew, not an immoral asshole who steals others' shit. That's an immoral asshole who steals others' shit.
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Fine, then put a filter in for the word "jew". Exactly. Not feasible or right to do. Because people should be free to use whatever words they want, right? Same as I should be free to say something about it if I keep reading people saying shit like "stop jewing me out of <this or that>" or "quit being a jew".
I get your point, but reading yet another thread where someone started calling someone else a jew for acting like an asshole tipped my scales. I had to at least say something about it..
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Orly? How about saying how I am instead of just accusing me? Because I don't see me calling people cracker, nigger, or any other racial slur that denotes lack of character or moral fiber.
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I don't have a solution. Never said I did.
I'm fully aware that you can't stop it and that it'll continue to happen, but to use that to just write it off as nothing is ridiculous. Like I said, the fact that you can't stop it doesn't make it okay. If it directly affects you and offends you on a personal level, it's kind of hard to just not worry about it.
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Everyone knows the best way to get people to stop insulting you is to insult them back, right? That'll work great!
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I'm not here to judge which petty insult is worse, I'm just saying that if OP wanted to make a point about insults he should've done so without throwing around insults of his own.
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Exactly my point. Language is fine as it is, using it to express negativity is, too. Using inherently innocent descriptors of an entire group of people as insults, thereby aiding racial segregation and lack of understanding among men? Fuck that, I'll rage against that all I want.
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Rage all you want, as long as you realise most people aren't going to take anything you say serious if you say it with anger and cursing.
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And you have every right to. Even if I'm not Jewish it makes me angry as fuck to see people small minded enough to use things like that as insults. I can only imagine how it must feel as a member of said group being discriminated against (well, I fall into some groups who are often named as insults and it makes me downright irate so I think I cam empathise). For people to say "well you're calling names too" and use that as a way of invalidating what you're saying, especially when it's completely justified and nothing near the issue causing you to be upset in the first place, is absurd.
I think if you'd stayed calm you might be getting slightly different reactions and it might have been easier for people to swallow your point but sadly there will always be smartasses to say "shit happens on the internet, get over it" and the like. Either way, you have every right to be angry.
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They're pretty similar. I'm sure name calling led to slurs.
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I'm not new here, nothing to do with it either. It's called basic decency and respect.
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I see no problem striking back at someone who's being a dick and grouping me together with assholes who try trading individual indie games for profit. I'm not going to calmly ask someone to stop hitting me, either, now am I?
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No, however, don't ask from others what you will not give. You could have started this thread without the insults and made a calm rational plea for people to stop using stereotypical slurs. Instead you just came in and did the exact thing you hate.
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I guess you're lucky you're not a jew a few centuries ago, fucking asshole.
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I have a translation addon for mozilla, unfortunately I haven't learned Ivrit yet. Thanks for the support though. :)
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Wow. I'm a goon from somethingawful times. Please, stop acting like a child.
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You know... making threads like this really don't help your cause... especially on the Internet.
...and if you really don't like it -that- much, well then, disconnect your Internet or quite simply just ignore it. Can't worry about words in this world, you'll get no were. Be glad you don't live in Australia, I doubt you'd last an hour. :)
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I'd share if I had any. Now please, grow up and stop quoting South Park.
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How the hell can anyone be proud of their heritage? You didn't do anything, you just happened to be born into this culture.
And good luck trying to get people to behave smarter on the internet. Best just roll with it and ignore the stupidity of idiots.
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+1. Maybe not the best way to frame the argument, but I support the gist of it. Likewise for similarly broad terms being used as insults whether they're based on race, sex, sexuality, or other circumstances of birth. If someone's an asshole, call them an asshole. Don't use a term that also insults everyone else who happens to be like them in some irrelevant way.
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Welcome to the Internet, anyways don't take it personally, honestly every race has its "thing to make fun of". Doesn't mean its true, I have friends of all races and we kinda make fun of each other. Irish = Drunk(I am irish and never had a drink) Asians = Smart and nerdy and know kung fo, Black = loves fried chicken and kool aid, etc...the list continues. Doesn't mean its all true or true for all people.
I have nothing against Jewish people, but I think many people hate them for other reasons nowadays, and even that is based on what the government has its hands it, however you feel about that is another thing, just know some will hate on Jewish people because of it just like they will hate on other races because of ___.
In other words, don't even listen to them, not worth your time.
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I actually had few jews who added me and begged me for games, one even offered 2 TF2 keys for my copy of Skyrim. I said to him that its quite a lowball and he started quoting some angry pasages from Torah to me (or were they some spells from Harry Potter and Sorcerer's Stone, im not sure)
I always thought of Hitler as a guy with great ideas but bad realisations. I'm talking about his paintings, ofcourse
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I actually thought he was a pretty decent artist, I also think I know where his hate stemmed from Here
He believed that it was a Jewish professor who had rejected his application to study at the academy.
Now I know why Art schools accepts everyone that can pay, even if they can only draw a stick figure...well most places.
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I think TC mad. Like other people said, welcome to the Internet. If you wear your heart on your sleeve, you're going to get slaughtered. Sorry, just the truth.
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words are words they have no power unless you give it to them
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I see this shit on the internet all the time, and on the forums here too - people abusing the word "jew".
This is from an earlier thread about someone suggesting steam make keys addable to inventory (he was exposed as only wanting to trade indie games for money; scumbag behavior).
(from original poster) => I see nothing wrong with that
Thats ok, because you are a jew. Anyway selling steam keys for money leads to disabling your steam account, so we can report you.
Wtf is up with this horseshit? I'm a jew - proud to be one, proud of my people's heritage. So I am offended by and look down on the idiocy involved with using the word "jew" to mean "cheap, miserly, stingy, unscrupulous, immoral, selfish" etc etc.
Also, thinking of the history behind this makes me even more mad. Historically, jews have always been traders and merchants in many places where they were ostracised and even outlawed from exercising certain professions. I'm not a religious jew, but have studied judaism (as well as other religions out of interest) and it even tells you to trade fairly and honestly in the Talmud, one of the books of the Torah. Still, being so maligned and forced into being an opressed minority, when the same people who had persecuted them and pressed them into the corner of society wanted to trade needed goods with them, OF COURSE THEY KEPT STEEP PRICES. The people then bitched about it, and the image of the stingy jew was born.
Hitler and his cronies used this image and pumped it up further, calling jews "rats that feed of of Germany's wealth and spread faster than we can contain them".
Nowadays, due to the past still holding sway, some still use "jew" to mean all the above named negative shit.
FUCKING STOP IT, YOU UNEDUCATED, SENSELESS MORONIC IMBECILES. YOU WANT TO CALL SOMEONE CHEAP, IMMORAL, OR UNSCRUPULOUS? GET A FUCKING VOCABULARY AND CALL THEM THAT, THEN.
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