Boo to tax loopholes, but at the same time people from EU have to pay more anyway because to them 1US=1EUR, so I don't know how to feel.

TLDR: Valve have potentially been pretending to be paying 20-25% taxes for EU sales, while actually paying 3%

Read: Valve suck

not: OMG POLITICIANS EVIL

Well, gg wp everyone...valve & politicians. Im going back to torrents (if this happens)

Buy as much as you can from the Holiday Sale :D

EU1 includes? Or is that for the EU1 and EU2 regions?

A little late?

I dont think steam will make different price each country in eu. This would be a lot work and they would have to regionlock each country cause the trading thing would start all over again.
Steam will do an average vat for EU so all eu players have same price and dont see different vat. Only steam and they pay it than.
would be best to do it this way.

So country with high vat could be cheaper and low vat pay more.

we will see
and at the end steam need only to make the steam shop in luxemburg + a buyshop in luxemburg and than sent the money to the buyshop and this buyshop sent the game as a gift^^. So nothing would change

We ALREADY pay more because of the 1$=1€ change it has, and at D1 we have the same price as it would have a retail game in our stores (not counting eventual limited discount like -10% on preorder) where the local tax is already accounted: ie in many Store pc games at D1 are 49.99€ (tax included) here, while on Steam is usally the same 49.99.

From Hungary: The highest tax on the world (27%). We have to pay in Euro but we have Hungarian Forint, 1 Hungarian Forint = 0,0032 Euro (today) . Our monthly net average wage is 503 Euro (2014-09). Same number in the USA: 3000 Euro(2012), Germany: 2054 Euro(2013-Q2), UK: 2597 Euro(2013-04). Sad to say it but we belong more in the Russia region Russia: 382 Euro(2014-11), Kazakhstan 441 Euro(2014-11).

If the prizes will be in Euro + 27% tax, that will be impossible to buy something on Steam. In the past i used torrent to play a game, now i have payed all my games, but in the future... :(( . Please, we need an own region, with low prizes, in Hungarian Forint.

I find it hard to be critical of people who pirate with bullshit laws like these in place. Taxing data is fucking asinine.

Guess I'll go back to buying retail copies.

Szerencsére engem nem érint életbe ha 5 játékot vettem steam-en a többi innen onnan traderektől van / más kulcsos site-okról stb.
Meg ez is olyan netadó stájl már rögtön mindenki sír.

again this misleading mix of company tax vs vat it´s not 3% vs 25% it´s 15% vs 25%...or 18/19 whatever %

i cant understand something about this "more tax=>higher prices"thing ...

let me get it straight if valve has to pay more taxes why customers should be responsible for valve`s less profit i mean if the ones who pay taxes are gonna be customers whats the point of this tax thing at all if customers paying it not valve ???

Back to buying retail I guess.
Its already cheaper often, and many retail games register on Steam as well

Living in a EU country with one of the shittiest economics, I'll probably go back to downloading games from torrents as well.
So far, I could afford to buy cheap games during the Steam sales, so I'll have to wait and see how much that changes.

No problem they can rise taxes to maximum, "torrent edition" not canceled at the time.

This is as it should be. A level playing field.

Why should Steam avoid the taxes that everyone else has to pay when selling products in these countries?

So games now will cost 1/3 of the monthly salary? Ubisoft games are 90 euros already.
But i think higher prices helps people to save money because they're not buying the games anymore and are getting it for free.

The EU way = Constantly brainstorming new ways to tax the people to within an inch of thier lives. Now it's your Videogames. It's either time to revolt against taxation without representation which you guys aren't allowed to do, or simply vote with your feet and partake in a little bit of "Capital Flight". If you're saving here and there, rest assured the EU will sniff it out and tax it away. Time to reassess the "Value" of living in these high tax countries, because your EU Governments are too fat and too expensive presently.
Perhaps crashing the party at Eduardo Saverin's house for awhile till all this taxation madness blows over would be a consideration for you poor souls in the EU.

Romania here.

VAT is 24% here. So this means games will cost 60 euros + 24%? That's ~75 euros. As if it wasn't enough that publishers used 1 to 1 dollar-euro conversion rate. :|

Not sure how to avoid this. All non EU stores are blocked here, except maybe Nuuvem and Amazon but games there are mostly region locked.
For UPlay and Origin games I'll go for retail since it's way cheaper than on any digital platform. I'm curious how GOG will react to this.

Steam games will be a problem. Not many Steam games go retail. Not to mention that Valve made gifting region locked :|

So most likely everybody will go back to trackers.

The real issue so far was the fact that Europe turned a blind eye to tax heavens within its borders, like Luxenbourg. If Valve payed what it really owed (ie proper taxes in Luxembourg) there would be no problem. Instead, they entered into an agreement which allowed them to skip paying most of their taxes throughout the continent.

This new legislation should not mark any difference in prices, because Valve was only taxed a token amount until now, yet sold its products at the same price as its competitors, making record profits. Ideally, prices should remain at the same level and some of the money may finally trickle into the coffers of some countries other than Luxembourg.

If Valve's bottom line takes a hit in the process, I can live with it. If they raise prices in response, I only hope that other online stores won't follow suit...

7 solutions for me who live in the EU:

• Gaben won't get any money from me in 2015
• Proxy undetectable (the only obstacle to that until now was the time it needs to be settled. +20% make it worth the time)
• Local game stores
• Quit gaming
• Start playing all the games i have gathered so far and never even installed them
• Share library with friends from other region so that i can access everything
• The obvious way

We already pay more. Valve thinks $=€ and we overpay cca 30% more than weaker dollar.