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Do you mean developer giveaways? Nevermind, you've edited the title. :3

wat

this has been discussed to death already

i have the same question... they should be able to enter giveaways but not the high contributor ones, or simply dont receive contributor status from developer giveaways...

Edit: or atleast dont give the 100% of the price of games given away

let's see.... I make game and instead selling it I make giveaway... so what is difference between giving away free copy of game and giving stuff on developer giveaway?...

if you are so envy about them than maybe make a game and give it away here...

If it is the developer who gives out the game he made and put much work into it I am fine with that.

If it is some randomuser of sg who "begs"(probably the word is a bit harsh but it is the best for it) at the developers to get the games for giveaways and enters the high contribution giveaways: I am not fine with that.

But probably there has everyone different view on it. ;)

most developers don't join like dudler he never joined a single giveraway.

Developer giveaways, fine. Featured giveaways with keys gotten from developers, fine. Beta developer giveaways of keys that disable at launch, THAT I have an issue with. The first two the people spent time or whatever and made a permanent contribution to people, regardless of how they got the keys. Betas that don't become permanent full games shouldn't give contribution period.

That was discussed often enough and AFAIK cg doesn't want that dev accounts enter giveaways, but I'm not sure about that.

I don't like it when the people who make these giveaways enter giveaways. Most people here pay for the games to giveaway and the devs just get thousands of dollars of contributor value for free to get more games. And the people that beg the devs to give keys to them to make giveaways for them is not fair and just sad.

Another problem that I see for devs when they win giveaways is who gets the game. Most games aren't developed by only one person, so the devs don't get the games they win. Only the person to which belongs the Steam account gets the games.
You can't say that the devs deserve to enter games when they don't get the games.

IMO the solution would be that devs can make their own private account on which they are not allowed to give their own games away there. And then there should be other accounts only for dev giveaways, which are also flagged as those and are not able to enter giveaways.

TL;DR: Dev accounts shouldn't enter giveaways because the devs don't get their games and there should be separated accounts for normal and dev giveaways. And IMO these "featured giveaways" from people that get the keys from devs should be forbidden.

Seems okay to me.

I find it totally fine. I mean they spent the time and money to make the games, so they should be able to give them away.

If they really are the developers, I don't see any problem.

I don't know about the previous threads or conversations but I think you need to look at it from another angle maybe. Yep, they give out large numbers of keys to games they've made and money does not exchange hands for them. What I don't think you're putting to thought though, is that these still are not 'free'. For each key added to the pile, it is that much more money the developer will not make from their game. So they are still taking a financial loss however big or small, so why not let them enter other contests in return? I admit that I could be missing some key information here, but from an outside perspective as far as I can tell they should be counted just like any other giveaway.

This has been discussed before, I think the answer from support was that true developers aren't allowed, but if you can someone con(vince) a developer into giving you thousands of keys to giveaway, then you're allowed to do so and still enter giveaways.

I remember someone made a thread complaining about how it was unfair that they were able to enter and ended up getting suspended for it since they "didn't handle the situation properly". They would prefer you send a message through the support channel

i don't see any problem with it

Nobody here has paid full price for every single giveaway they've created, and yet you get full contributor value out of them.

It's fine as it is. I see your point, they have a game they created, it's free, they get contributor value for it. But you have to understand though, that for every copy they give away, it's potentially a SOLD copy given away for free = money lost.

um, if they contribute, say, 10,000 dollars worth of their games, why shouldn't they join giveaways???

because they make games :) they should be able to.

here is the solution:

->1 stop crying
->2 become a developer
->3 create developer giveaways to get high contribution value
->4 enter the high contribution giveaway

P.S. to say something useful: if someone creates a game (and this takes effort, time, creativity and skill) a gives it away, i will gladly grant him the chance to win a game every now and then

If contributor value was based on how much you actually paid for the games you give away, there would be a lot of unhappy people on this website.

My own views are that if a "featured giveaway" maker wins one of my high contributor giveaways, I'll risk a suspension and "not received" and not give them the game. However, I suggest you close the thread before someone here gets suspended. Here is the official support response from Kaitlyn:

Currently we have policies for developers who give away their own games here. These developers must use a developer account and cannot enter into any giveaway with their developer account. Developer giveaways are marked with a Developer label.

[censored] is not a developer. All of his large giveaways are Featured giveaways with the exception of his first large giveaway as at the time we didn't have the featured giveaway label. His giveaways are not Developer giveaways. Any user may create a featured giveaway as [censored] has done if they have more than 50 copies of a game to giveaway. Just send submit a ticket to support!

This site is for giving away games. As long as the game is legitimately earned it may be given away. If every user was suspended or barred from entering giveaways for giving away a game they obtained freely then over half of the active users on this site would be.

Note that she suspended like half the people who posted in that thread, including me, so watch out.

How many giveaways have limits that stretch that high anyway? And how many developers are actively joining giveaways?

Not all, usually when a actual developer give something here they don't enter in any giveaways. Just 1 random member ask developer for keys, give them here and get contributor points. IT'S REALLY, REALLY, REALLY UNFAIR. He doesn't even created the game, just begged for keys to give it away. Why doesn't asked to developer come here and give the keys by themselves.