[This is a necroed thread created Oct 2015]

I recently switched (reluctantly) from doing mostly Level 1 and 2 public giveaways to Level 4. Filing support tickets after almost each giveaway (after doing the needful of course) isn't my idea of fun, and I was hoping Level 4 giveaways would reduce the number of regifters and other questionable winners. Unfortunately the results aren't much better, if at all. In the 9 Level 4 public giveaways I created this week, I had to file 7 requests for new winners, 6 of which were approved. Not good.

Let's see if Level 4 Invite-only works better...

[Update: All ended]
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/OQx4m/ludwig
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/5CH9j/starfence
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/TG6Cc/the-joylancer-legendary-motor-knight
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/ZwSpe/alum
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/ZPpui/loren-the-amazon-princess
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/SnC54/pixel-piracy
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/GMqzj/summoner
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/o6R7p/fort-defense
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/CNsRb/street-racing-syndicate

And no, as tempting as it is, I'm not going to switch to whitelist-only giveaways. I just want to find a reliable way to get good, honest, decent winners. Puzzles are not the answer either, as I empathize with other users who, like me, can't solve most of them. Other suggestions?

A couple of notes about the poll:

  1. If you're not using Windows, choose the option that's closest to what you do (e.g. replace Ctrl with Cmd for Mac).
  2. If you're not interested in any of the games, vote for the method you would use if you were.

Update: The 9 Level 4 invite-only giveaways linked above went much better than the public ones. Only 1 request for a new winner (which was denied, as the user already served suspension for the (relatively minor) infraction). 1 out of 9 is much much better than 7 out of 9, so perhaps not all hope is lost. Now let's see how my 9 whitelist giveaways end. Anything other than 0 reroll requests would be a disappointment, but let's see... Update #2 And indeed my whitelist did not disappoint. No reroll requests needed in any of the 9 giveaways.

9 years ago*

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How do you open the links to the giveaways?

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In the same window/tab, by clicking the link
In the same window/tab, by double-clicking the link
In a new tab, by holding Ctrl when clicking the link
In a new tab, by pressing the mouse wheel
In a new tab, by right-clicking the link and selecting the new tab option
In a new window, by right-clicking the link and selecting the new window option
In a new window, by holding Shift when clicking the link
Dan Quayle does it for me

Ctrl for me.

9 years ago
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Yeap, same here. The mouse wheel option works fine most of the time, but I hate the occasional unintended scroll (I guess I don't only suck at puzzles).

9 years ago
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http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/ty2WF/ is what I ended up deciding to go with :)

9 years ago
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Yes, I saw that. How different is this from whitelist giveaways?

9 years ago
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scratches head
It's a matter of perspective, I suppose.
So far only three people from my whitelist have joined the group, and it's up to around 20 members, so it's definitely giving me more reach than whitelist giveaways do
It's not precluding me from doing more invite-onlies, either.

But as far as a 'fix' for public giveaways? Those are always going to have issues, that's the risk of them.
If you can think of ANOTHER way to approach it, by all means, let us know :P

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I have a triple digit number of users in my whitelist, so reach is not an issue. I just think that those who don't meet my whitelist standards should win too, which is why I want to create public giveaways regularly.

9 years ago
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quantity != reach
Or more precisely, it's the difference between reach as used in degrees of separation/distance traveled/grouping dynamics, versus reach as it applies to things like social media.
In other words, I'm referring solely to giving accessibility to people I would not normally be able to offer such.

I wasn't aware I was imposing whitelist standards in my group?
I may be confusing which criteria you were trying to build a giveaway filter toward.

9 years ago*
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You don't need to look, they find you yourself XD

9 years ago
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Wouldn't they find me if I created a whitelist recruit thread?

9 years ago
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Misread your question a bit - thought you ask "why do this when I can just add people to whitelist".

9 years ago
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Oh, this looks like a decent group.
Too bad it's obviously not possible to join right now.

7 years ago
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Mouse wheel :D. The other hand is reserved for the coffee!!

9 years ago
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+1 Easiest way for new tab, just press middlebutton/mousewheel

9 years ago
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I'm on a laptop with no wheel 98% of the time, so I gotta go with Ctrl into a new tab

9 years ago
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mouse wheel, cause I have my hand on the mouse anyway, so it's the easiest way to open a link in a new tab

9 years ago
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Click on mouse scroll button, and choose 1 game (only want games with trading cards :D)
but still thanks!
And regifters? I try it too on start, when i won game without trading cards, so want to give to someone else, but not on SteamGifts....bad idea :D

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So... You're saying you only enter giveaways for the trading cards?

9 years ago
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i only select games which have cards, so yeah....if i will or not play that game, i decide when i got it, because it is small chance to win

9 years ago
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That's a pretty bad attitude. What if someone would have really wanted that game? It'll go to waste if you don't want to play it.

9 years ago
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life is not fair.....often saw winners of some games (gta 5 for example) which has 0 hours played and i really want it.....so?

9 years ago
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So i hate these users.
Are you one of them?

9 years ago
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I enter on every game i want to have.....and there are only few games without cards which i want
so probably i am

and here comes blacklist storm :D

9 years ago*
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I didn't blacklist you but as you are talking about it now, here we go.

9 years ago
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i know......the truth hurts....i would say i blacklist you too, but i think i will never win something from you and you something from me....so just waste of time

9 years ago
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Yes, same as you consider playing games.

9 years ago
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Wow...nice deduction, i never say that :D I just sit on chair and masturbate about my Steam library to be clear.

9 years ago
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Good, everybody has its hobby.

9 years ago
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and you won Portal of Evil: Stolen Runes Collector's Edition and still didnt played.....sooooooo? :D you hate yourself?

9 years ago
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Yes, i do.
In the other hands, i put 152 hours in Wastelands 2 and 68 hours in Styx.

9 years ago
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Sooo... You want to be one of them? Neat.

9 years ago
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That's bad luck.
In the Level 1-3 GA's I've done I've required a couple of rerolls only. :(

9 years ago
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More common than one would hope for.

9 years ago
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Voted your poll. Have a bump :)
Entered none

9 years ago
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I can't use tabs. I have this habit of clicking that shiny red x in the top corner, which would end up making all of my pages go bye-bye at once if I wasn't using individual windows.

9 years ago
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Mouse wheel for me, however I actually have bind it to Mouse 4 while browsing (side key always under my finger, my mouse wheel click doesn't work so I'm improvising)

9 years ago
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Hey ! How are you since our last talk ?
Answered the poll, but probably due to my -far from perfect english- I didn't get the link between the poll and your research of good & fair winners... call me dummy x)

9 years ago
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I really thought level four was a safe place. Combined with recent discoveries by others like only 10% reading the description of a giveaway this really reduces my faith in the user base.

9 years ago
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In a new tab, by pressing the mouse wheel

Ahem. We call them "middle click / middle mouse button", thank you very much.
And thanks! :D

9 years ago
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Indeed, I've been using 3-button mice since the 80's!

Later, PC users discovered GUIs and mice and stuck with 2 buttons for a while, wondering what that 3rd one we used was for. Mac users, we both laughed at.

I do actually use the scroll wheel on modern mice, but they're often of poor quality and scroll when you don't want them to (my Logitech laser mouse just started doing that all of a sudden).

9 years ago
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Ctrl click for life!

9 years ago
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this theme need bump :)

9 years ago
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In a new tab, by right-clicking the link and selecting the new tab option for me :)

9 years ago
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Mouse wheel user reporting. It's convenient.

9 years ago
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In the same window/tab, by clicking the link. Thank you for the giveaways.

Maybe it's how the dice roll? In my last 20 ish level 2 public giveaways I had to do 2 rerolls (owning the game already) that support does fast and I just had to check the new winners if they owned the games. But for public unbundled stuff I tend more towards putting them on level 4/5.

9 years ago
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Mouse wheel FTW!

9 years ago
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bump

9 years ago
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mouse wheel and I didn't expect this option to be that popular :D

9 years ago
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Why? Other options are either slower or require second hand. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

9 years ago
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I might have supposed that there are not many people with one hand occupied when they are typing... or something.

9 years ago
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What I did was blacklist over thousand people over time, it's a really time consuming effort, but my last lvl4+ GA's for a single game are 95% free of those users, so chances are none of them win.
I will eventually go over the remaining two thousands profiles that I have left and start giving away non-bundled games :)
It also a good way to make a nice whitelist just in case I need it.

9 years ago
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Ctrl, I don't have a mouse controller :<

9 years ago
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I use the mouse wheel, and thanks for the giveaways ;)

9 years ago
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Middle-click bump!

9 years ago
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i try to keep my SG up to date with my library but sometimes it still puts games i have on there for me to pick so i still try to make shore i dont have the game i enter and if i get or win a game i go back and unenter the giveaway but there are a lot of people that dont follow the rules. i just wish i had the money to make more giveaways to help people like this site has helped me. also im not picky with the games i like to play a game i have never played before even if it looks like i may not like it. you never know if you will like it or not with out trying it out your self

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