Is this fair?! I am here for more than a DECADE!
So years ago you found a way to cheat out the system by creating 50* giveaways of RPG Maker stuff to get a desired level, were happy to reap the rewards of your deception without changing anything in your attitude and after years when "exploit" was closed retroactively you are blaming others and even trying to make it look like the whole community is a victim? I got it correct? :)
*38% of all your created giveaways are for RPG Maker stuff. All created 10, 12 or 13 of October 2017. Probably you wanted to create them at one day but you probably missed the amount of the free slots to make it. All of them are 1 hour duration. That is simple CV farming. Buy cheap - giveaway fast. Looking at this and the way you are trying to blame system, people and play a victim is just disgusting and insulting.
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Yeah, this. OP cries about his CV while also playing the system extensively.
People lose CV everyday, it happens to everyone sooner or later. But they accept the loss and move on.
Rilke on the other hand is a special snowflake. If it happens to him (or her) it's because the system is unfair (lol) or because the site admins have a secret agenda or something equally stupid.
Fuck off with that bullshit and grow up.
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I don't get your usage of "special snowflake". Aren't all snowflakes, by conceptual definition, special, by virtue of their uniqueness? Wouldn't a special snowflake be a repeated one, thereby making it special only because it isn't special? Are you trying to state that the OP is actually a twin? Who is their twin? Keksinator seems to think their twin would be Konrad, do you agree? Also, did you know that "snowflake pie" can refer to a pie covered in coconut flakes? I think snowflake pie would make for the most special snowflake of all. But dried coconut flakes aren't good. It's best to use fresh ones. I want pie. Can we have pie now? Special pie?
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First of all, I make them 1hr because I personally enter 1hr giveaways, I know that people like having better chances for win, the same reason I make them specific for some higher levels. Also before 2017 I gave alot games and I did only around 5 copies I think, so please don't lie to people that I made 50gws of RPG Maker. Also your attitude towards me is so scary, are we in the court or something? You judge? How many years of prison for me? I really try to avoid people like you... Is this how you get whitelisted? Is this how you manipulate people? Tell me, how it feels being judged like this? I mean, you make them agree with you, because you put so much effort in analyzing all that, what for? Surely not to waste your time... Do not even bother to answer... Also, don't you guys see how many expensive gws I did with only 3 entries? (Which means they don't count in my level) ...
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please don't lie to people that I made 50gws of RPG Maker
50 giveaways of RPG Maker stuff you made
Also your attitude towards me is so scary
Attitude you get is relevant to everything you wrote.
I really try to avoid people like you...
Then you should ignore me rather than trying to make illusion that you are better SG user then you are actually is.
Is this how you get whitelisted?
No, that is not a way one can get a spot in someone's whitelist.
Is this how you manipulate people? Tell me, how it feels being judged like this?
Funny.
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It's funny how I am being judged basically for giving away games from Humble Bubdle Tier3, while I was at that time buying every weekly bundle and each RPG Maker VX Ace is like 65Euros/Dollars, making it 0cv is unfair, considering that in Tier1 was the older version, from 2008 I think and the one I gave away is from 2012. Staff made a mistake and I won't stop until make them aware of that, despite of being blacklisted 19 times since opening this discussion.
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Staff made a mistake and I won't stop until make them aware of that
Good luck!
despite of being blacklisted 19 times since opening this discussion.
You are getting blacklisted because of your attitude and because people paid attention to you. I believe other people, who also voiced and raised this problem can hardly boast of the same success as you.
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considering that in Tier1 was the older version, from 2008 I think and the one I gave away is from 2012
The 2017 bundle had VX Ace in Tier 1 and VX in its much higher cost BTA. The 2018/2019 bundle with VX in Tier 3 also had VX in Tier 1. This means that at the time of the bundle you're indicating having purchased, VX was actually the higher value offering between it and VX Ace.
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Let me explain further - When I was giving away those games, I knew it's value, I also knew that it could be changed in a few days to reduce value because it was in a Humble Bundle often. But if that days become years and I totally forget about the situation, then you are disrespecting me and all other members. Understand now?!
Because you had the chance to reap the rewards of an exploit for years and support was slow to correct your CV to a more reasonable value you're pissed. Did I get this right?
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.... to quote PoeticKatana:
RPG Maker VX Ace and its 9 DLCS were in Tier 1 of this bundle https://barter.vg/bundle/2152/ on Oct 4, 2017
$1 for 12 items valued at $200 => +$30 CV
Your first giveaway for RPG Ace was 10th October 2017 ... SIX days AFTER
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/8oqdi/rpg-maker-vx-ace
How does six days after equal "before"?
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Are you saying to me that I paid 10-15 euros for each bundle just to get discriminated for 6 days difference by the staff? That's it, I am done here, I don't mind if I get banned anymore, but they for sure will have to fix this or I will go literally mad, I don't stop until justice is fulfilled!!! MARK MY WORD!
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That's not a correct use of "discriminated". You can only get banned if you first get indefinitely suspended, and then harass staff. Going "literally mad" would mean that you're developing an actual mental illness that will cause you to engage in random, uncontrollable fits of violence. That's not a correct use of "justice". My word is "pie", thanks for sharing yours.
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Indeed, you might be sarcastic, but the RPG Maker that I gave was Tier3 bundle, costed like 10-15 euros/dollars each. It's the ACE version, 65euros/dollars in the Steam Store currently. Staff made some mistake here, also it was 5 years ago so I gave it before it was in cheaper bundles...
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I would be willing to donate 0.01 of my own level to you, if mods approve my petition.
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When I was new here (and stupid) I gave an unbundled key once... of course only to have it cv reduced retrospectively later
The reason? Well, someone had found out that there was once the price of the game IN RUBLES IN STEAMSTORE discounted so much that by comparing it to the retail price IN USD/EUR it reached ca 90% discount.
My arguments that I was giving away a GLOBAL KEY and it could be easily checked had fallen to deaf ears.
That day I understood that full CV giveaways is a trap for noobs here. Dutifully noticed, and proceeded accordingly.
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For the past 9 years I've been on this site I've essentially lived of a budget of f all. If you're really struggling to giveaway anything other than trash perhaps budgeting should be a higher concern than internet points.
I mean, at the end of the day begging the mods is free, so I guess go nuts? But there are much better ways to deal with this situation.
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They made it 0cv because that's how much it's worth, you paid more for something than you should have, that doesn't make what you paid the actual value I'm afraid. SG can't dedicate their time to look at each individual giveaway, so it's better to assume the worst, les someone farms the cheaper version and makes bank.
For your sake, I hope you cut your losses and make some "ACE" new giveaways. Ba dum tsh.
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The bundle you're referencing occurred a full year (releasing both on 2018-11-09 and again on 2019-10-29, compared to 2017-10-18) after the game had already been bundled at $1 tier. The price you paid is simply irrelevant to the established value of the game (be it on SG, or anywhere else). [Note, there was no $15 tiered bundle inclusion prior to the $1 tier bundle, according to ITAD (the only preceding Humble bundle had it at a BTA of 5-9$), so if you got it before that bundle, then you didn't get it for $15- or, at least, the $15 wasn't because of that tier.]
Further, due to the fact that the previous keys had not expired, there'd be absolutely no way for you to prove where your key came from (even if you could prove buying a given bundle, there'd be no way to prove the key you provided was actually from it, short of a grueling and unlikely process of having Humble contact SG directly, and that's not a process SG has the resources to handle, especially given the need to fairly apply such a method to all site users), nor is there any mechanical method for the site to exclude your purchase to begin with. Nor is there any justification for site staff doing so, given the already established now-low value of the game.
While Garbage's post.. sort of brushed past your actual topic, they're nevertheless correct in the fact that it does boil down to you having paid more for something than it was actually worth.
That ultimately makes this an issue you're having with Humble (and, in fact, with your not doing sufficent research on a purchase's details prior to making the purchase) rather than being anything SG has any association to or responsibility for. As a similar example of such an association, if a developer makes their game free-to-play, then that hurts any previous purchaser of the game, and not just those who had post the game onto SG. In other words, CV adjusts on SG because of outside actions devaluing a title. With the exception of the circumstance of SG staff making an error, those actions are what are responsible for the devaluation, not SG itself.
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As the title says, I went from like 5.16 to 4.16 suddenly... I remember giving alot in the past, when I was able to, but now I cannot reach LVL5 again and even if I could, I wouldn't, because I don't find it fair at all to just lose Level like that, I really hope that Support is nice enough to do the right thing and give me my Level back. I am one of the first members and losing a Level like this really hurts me!
Edit: They should bundle games within a month or two, not within 2+ years. I wasn't losing XP for a long time, that says alot. If staff wasn't able to take care of their website for more than a year or so, then might as well keep it that way, instead of dissapointing their users, I will probably never give away a game on this site, because - Who guarantees that same thing won't happen again? They just spit on the money that I gave away, it's not like I got these for free, I had to pay for every game one way or another, just to be able to give it in hope for level up. I planned to reach Level 6, thats' why I recently started giving games away again, despite of my monetary situation. But, never again. Feel free to judge me instead of judging them.
Edit2: Let me explain further - When I was giving away those games, I knew it's value, I also knew that it could be changed in a few days to reduce value because it was in a Humble Bundle often. But if that days become years and I totally forget about the situation, then you are disrespecting me and all other members. Understand now?!
Edit3: These were Tier3 Humble Bundle RPG Maker VX Ace, costing each around 10-15 Euros/Dollars I think.
I gave it BEFORE it was sold in the other cheap Tier1 Bundles, so they got NO RIGHT to make it 0cv at all. It's the ACE version of RPG Maker!!!
Important edit4: I found out there was another bundle for 1$ with the same software in it just 6 days before I gave keys away, somehow... So, I am willing to show the proof of all my RPG Maker purchases to the Administrators of site, the proof that I bought Tier3 bundle and not from that other website. Please contact me, since my support request is being ignored...
FINAL EDIT:
Closing this topic, I suffer mental illness, Anxiety, Depression and mild Psychosis. My apologies to everyone, but I still find this very demotivating for future giveaways, especially after being blacklisted by so many members.
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