Or get only the DLC BTA and get the full games for ATA ;P
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u has skyrim spyder?
btw, sorry bout ur uncle ben..
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Are you sure it's 7/1/14 for the rest of the world?
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I'm not advocating either format but they both have their arguments. Dates can be written out in two formats: January 7, 2014 and 7 January 2014. Therefore, both 1/7/14 and 7/1/14 make sense because they correlate with the aforementioned, respectively. A further argument for the D/M/Y format could be that the numbers from left to right represent increasingly broad measurements of time.
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The most "logical" is year.month.day because we are in a computer aera with lots of file storage
The complete reverse of that (day.month.year) which some countries use makes less sense, but still some.
And the total jumbled up order month.day.year even does less sense than that.
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Not in english. English isn't the only language on the planet, did you know?
In portuguese you say 7 de janeiro de 2014. In spanish you say 07 de enero 2014. In french you say 7 janvier 2014. In german you say 7. Januar 2014.
So PLEASE, don't act as if english, Farenheit, inches, etc. are the only way to say things. No. The entire rest of the planet thinks otherwise. 1 against all? Normally it is said the wrong is the 1.
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To say the "entire rest of the planet" isn't accurate at all. I'm Korean and the Korean language says it in the format of January 7, 2014. And while I'm open to admitting that I don't know enough languages to say I don't have more examples, I'm pretty sure there must be other languages that say it in that format too. It's a language thing. If we were still talking about the xx/xx/xx format then sure, by all means, argue about what should be standard. But when talking about another language you really can't say that this or that is "wrong".
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Agreed. Didn't know Korean is this format too.
Agreed also that there's no wrong or right pattern. The "wrong" on my comment wasn't a well chosen word. What I wanted to say is that the mm-dd-aaaa format shouldn't be taken as the world's default, as it isn't. When you take the problem caused by using the same ammount of digits and deciding what would be month and what would be day? Only common sense help us understand that it's January 7th, 2014 and not July 1st, 2014, as it's mm/dd/aaaa.
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The phrase "Seven January Twenty-Fourteen" is gibberish because it's not written in English. Is that clearer?
As for the rest of your post, I'll assume you either confused me with someone, or you can't read.
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true, Jengonthanda, the reply should be to the comment you replyed. Clicked the wrong "reply". I agree it's gibberish if mantained in english, but this thread started as "ok, the mm-dd-aaaa format", because MUCH people gets confused with this format, and then much people complained what is right and what is wrong. I just said there are just patterns. None is right or wrong, but if I would say that is a default, it wouldn't be the mm-dd-aaaa...
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Thing is, 7 de janeiro or 07 de enero 2014 both have "de", which I assume is the equivalent of "th". That makes sense, then writing it as 07th-01-2014. But that's a dumb way of writing it. Even my own language has it as ika-7 ng Enero, 2014 - the "ika" being the "th". 07-01-2014 makes you read it as Seven January/Eneiro/Janeiro Twenty-Fourteen. Though, it seems that makes sense if you're German or French, apparently. But whatever. That ISO format makes the most sense for everyone.
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You got it all wrong. "The 7th of January" is an abridgement of "The seventh day of January".
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in truth the "de" part is the same as "of". The number in those languages are cardinal numbers (not ordinal).
Strangely enough, we only use ordinal on the 1st day of a month.
So, it would be 1º de maio (1st May, or as Jengonthanda said, 1st day of may). For the other days, only the cardinal number is enough. So, 7 de Janeiro would be "Seven of January", literally translating.
The ambiguous format are a problem, but independent to format, the speech is a separate thing (IMHO).
I could write date like 2014-01-07 and this wouldn't made me say "twenty fourteen January seventh", would it?
BTW, 39 hours from now I'll be tapping F5 on the humble bundle page! :P
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No-one English speaking. Plenty of languages using different grammar patterns, which when directly translated to English read as "7th of January".
And then there's Dutch, which does in fact directly say 7 January. But that's a weird language too.
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As stated before by nanabanana, you just refering to the english language.
Like he/she said there are plenty of languages which say it the other way around. he/she mentioned dutch and I give another example with german. it's "siebter januar" there too which means "seventh january".
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So, 20 bundles later it will be the Humble Bundle XXX
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Agreed. Expecting Monaco, Dust, Hammerwatch, Giana Sisters, Long Live The Queen, Soundodger+, and Spelunky.
'Cause, you know, I got all of those within the past 3 months.
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I'd actually be cool with it because my friends could play Monaco or Spelunky with me.
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Every time I considered an indie game this sale, I stopped myself and said, "Nah it'll humble bundle soon" :P
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Every time I considered an indie game this sale, I stopped myself and said, "Nah it'll humble bundle soon" :P
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Because that makes too much sense, like having a globalwide language or currency.
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Because personally I have no idea which is the day and which is the month when it is written like that...I have been using mm/dd/yyyy my entire life and have never heard of an international system (or sistem, whatever that is). Plus, the guy that decided the international sistem would be yyyy/mm/dd is an obvious douchebag.
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mm/dd/yyyy is highly illogical way of writing a date. Days should go before months.
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month - max numerical value is 12
day - max numerical value is 31
year - max numerical value is undefined as it goes on until the world blows up
how is sorting to max numerical value not logical
now for pronouncing(mm/dd/yyyy, yyyy/mm/dd, yyyy/dd/mm, then dd/mm/yyyy)
January 1st, 2014
2014, January 1st
2014, 1st of January
1st of January, 2014
mm/dd/yyyy rolls off the tongue better to
just my 2 cents
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how is sorting to max numerical value not logical
It is not logical by any stretch of the imagination. Because those are orders, day being the lowest and year being the highest. Rearranging date orders is like placing hundreds before tens.
now for pronouncing... mm/dd/yyyy rolls off the tongue better to
That's only in English and only because you got used to it. In my language you would never even imagine to put a month before a day in a speech. Unless you wanted to sound archaic and like being stared at in confusion.
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Well isn't it weird because it is English system? I mean let's take a look at other things like imperial measurement system and paper sizes... those are kinda f$%^&* up too.
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It is weird. There is also bra cup sizes which come in single, double, triple letters for whatever fucked up reason, or school grades which are letters as well (for whatever reason they skipped E from that row), or musical notes which are also letters, which is fine and dandy but it starts from C instead of A.
All this confusion can only be done on purpose.
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A foot is 12 inches, a yard is 3 feet, a chain is 22 yards (and equivalent to... the distance between the two wickets on a cricket pitch?). How does this even begins to make sense?
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Well, they should. You make them read at least four unnecessary digits.
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Given that most physical papers I have to fill in are official ones, I have to stick to the official pattern, anyway. Most of the time in conversations there is enough context for dd to be enough. yyyy-mm-dd is most practical imo if you're handling a bunch of dates or are inclined to work with them digitally.
While speaking, you use the name of the months instead of just their respective numbers ^^
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International is NOT the most logical. If someone were to ask you when the bundle is happening, would you say "In the year 2014, January 7th." Or would you say, "January 7th, 2014."
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I would say "on the 7th of January". Which is the most logical way outside of cataloguing.
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There is a difference between written and spoken dates, anyway, so I try to look at them independently. From a logical point of view 2014-01-07 makes more sense in written form to me, though. It goes from a wider range to precise information and doesn't depend on context.
I'm not saying, though, that it is always the perfect solution because context makes some information redundant, but in comparison to the other patterns it works best universally. It feels counter-intuitive because it's different from the way we are used to handle dates, but this bias would vanish after one generation of sticking to the standard.
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YYYY-MM-DD is the international standard, ISO-8601 governing date/time formats. In addition to sorting concerns, the standardized format provides other advantages in terms of programming, and ease of understanding in multiple settings. Nearly every database natively supports that format (except Oracle - Oracle is a pain in the ass), and have date/time optimizations based on it.
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Least significant? If you are talking about the date, then EVERY component is significant.
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I've never been an RPG person, but that game blew me away back on my Turbo Duo. Getting Ys I & II on the Virtual Console was the single biggest reason I got a Wii when they came out. I knew my Turbo Duo wouldn't last forever. I've never gotten around to playing any of the sequels, since I never had the systems they were released for.
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What do you think?, probably the Humble Indie Bundle X :D
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