Not just actual bundles, but going over 95% in discount.

Someone was explaining how regions/different currencies can cause a 90% discount to pass 95%, thus it still qualifies to get onto the bundled list.

For example recently the games:

Arevan (it's not on the list yet, but someone was saying that it was 96.5% discount in Russian Ruble thus it'll appear soon™,)
King of Kung Fu
Klabi and more.

EnhancedSteam doesn't seem to help distinguish between those, so I was wondering how can one tell if they aren't from like Russia/CIS? I tried doing the math behind it or changing my currency, but it doesn't match up for the small undetailed math behind Arevan's discount.

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https://steamdb.info/

when a game goes on sale just check there and it will give you region pricing

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Quick example, Kings of kung fu, full price in USD $9.99, if the price drops below 95% ($0.49) it will be added to the bundle list, the price in russia right now is $0.38

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https://steamdb.info/app/385900/

he's right, but maybe I'm just bad at math or something.

7.99 USD or 189py6

90% discount is .79 and .189 respectively.

.189py6 converted back to USD is approx .28 cents.

7.99*0.035 = .28 cents which does mean 96.5% discount. I'm just not following lol.

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It should be added to the bundle list. 3.5%<5%

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Well yes, I know that, I'm just simply trying to understand and I guess talgaby best explained it, now I'm just trying to figure out if there's a faster way to do math.

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if (lowest_converted_price*greatest_discount<=base_price/20)
{
add_to_bundle_list();
}

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If you have EnhancedSteam, you should be able to see the Russian price (as well as any other regional prices) by mouse-overing the price.

But there's no simple way of doing it, other than doing the math on your own. But basically, anything with a discount of over 85% on Steam runs the risk of getting bundled, due to the state of the Russian economy.

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https://steamdb.info/app/34900/ - look at the Converted Price column. If any price in that column is 5% or less of the full price of the game in USD, it will be bundled.

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If any price in that column is less than 5% of the full price

Perhaps anything below 6% is a better guideline, as it seems sometimes it gets rounded up [if it's eg 94.5% off].
At the very least, "less than or equal" or "less than or approximately" seem better phrasings. :)

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True

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I think that if it's higher than 5% of the price it's up to the mod's decision,and below or equal to 5%, it will always be bundled.

Although it seems more like an unofficial guideline than anything else as it isn't stated in the rules/FAQ

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nice example
really nice and educate :p

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Simple: compare the lowest possible price against the base USD price.
If a game costs 10 dollars, the ~95% threshold states that if it goes under $0.50 somewhere, anywhere, it is on the way to the bundle list.
Russian store prices are 40-60% lower than US store prices. So they most likely start by the game costing about $5.00 worth of rubles to begin with.
Now when a Steam discount rears its head, it means that if it goes on a 90% sale, the Russian price will be around $0.50. Yes, the US price on discount will be $1.00, but that is not the lowest possible; the Russian is. And the Russian price compared to the 10-dollar starting value hits the 95% mark.

In reality, the ruble is so bad that this margin is not at 90% but somewhere around 85%.
In some rare cases the Russian price is not the lowest. The second largest competitor for cheapness is India, but Brazil and China may drop in from time to time as well. SteamDB helps to identify the cheapest regions for a game.

The lowest possible price rule is in effect for all other stores as well. If a pricing glitch that lasts 3 milliseconds on amazon lets people buy a 60-dollar game for 60 cents, on to the bundle list it goes. Even if said game never had a discount in its life cycle.

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In reality, the ruble is so bad that this margin is not at 90% but somewhere around 85%.

I've seen it crop up at around 78% before, due to a lower converted base price of the game in the region.
Meanwhile, I've seen some that didn't get equal sales in the region, so they managed a higher discount.
You really gotta review each game individually, or (if you want a more casual approach) stick to 75% off [which thus far seems to be reliably safe] or to sites with USD (or similar)-restricted purchasing.

If a pricing glitch that lasts 3 milliseconds on amazon lets people buy a 60-dollar game for 60 cents, on to the bundle list it goes

Depends on how heavily promoted it was, and how many giveaways they see cropping up. Some games don't get added, and (as in the case of Alien: Isolation) they even rarely sometimes get removed again afterward.

Of course, between that 'eye toward abuse' and basic bundle-listing delays, relying on any pricing glitch to be a reliable source of CV is a risky assumption- which basically means, "don't try and cheat the system". Technically, it also means "keep an ear out for pricing glitches when purchasing (without using them)", but they're often pretty hard to get notice of. Of all the reasons for CV loss, I gotta say that unheard-of price glitches are the most reasonable to get frustrated over. :X

Well, the fact that the reasoning for a bundle-listing is typically never mentioned anywhere likely doesn't ever help settle frustrations, either.

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