[Suggestion] 0 points for all 0 CV games

If you mean 0 point to enter, it takes points from steam price and it can't be changed. If you mean value, there is no way where to get detebase of what is free or overpriced, so it is set as priceless manually by site admins.
Edit: By setting 0 value to all 0 CV you may hurt some actually cool games these were given away for free in tiny amount, but they are actually cool. Example: Maneater.

Not all 0 CV games in sg are asset flips

Off the top of my head, The Walking Dead S1 (telltale), Batman - Arkham Asylum, Time Loader, etc are all great games that have been reduced to 0 value because they were once free or close to it.

Why is there a problem? Either a group allows overpriced trash or it does not and kicks people who creates giveaways for such "games".

It would be much simpler if the mods of the groups where CV matters like that would have a list of games that count as their original/reasonable point score. Why change a site-wise setting, messing with the API-reported prices, because it became inconvenient regarding some group's custom rules?

Thanks for feedbacks:
Maybe better solution if update "steam limited" games only! Then Batman and Walking Dead and other "valuable" but free products keep the point values.

I have another idea:
What if we maximized the point value of "limited games" to 20? Even if it is 50$ or 200$ or more...

Can you recommend one that is worth more than this?

To shorten it....

You can have 1000 ideas, not important if good ones or bad ones, none of them will ever be transformed into something because cg don't invest the time to program it.

He shown this, very clearly, since 5 years+.
To expect something is dreaming. Only dreams don't lead to results.

Just a personal opinion here, but points weren't originally implemented for managing group ratio. They were implemented so that people have to make a choice: instead of entering every possible giveaway, they enter the ones they like the most. This way, winning is a sweet combination of luck and choice. Setting all 0 CV games (which is a lot of games) to 0 points would pretty much blow this concept, at least for all these games.

Anyway group ratios are weird... I don't think SG really should endorse them beyond maybe showing them. As they just feel like kinda gift trading in the end... Which is way to exploit CV and thus levels.

If groups want to do the hard work they can, but if not it should not be SGs job to do it.

Here's another idea: Set a maximum limit on the value difference that can be earned from a game. For e.g. limit it to 50 or 60.

This has several advantages:

• Has no impact outside of groups and nobody's CV will be affected.
• Don't need to override the API-based price reporting or check if games are feature-limited.
• Mods don't need to make case by case decisions about which games should be 0 CV.
• I'm not a programmer but I think this can be done with a single line of code. e.g. value_difference = max (value_difference_raw, 50)
• Very little collateral damage to users who didn't share overpriced asset flip games. There aren't too many legitimate games that cost more than $50-60.

It won't take care of the problem of asset flips entirely (that's up to group owners who make the rules), but nerfing those 100-200 games down to 50 will go a long towards limiting extreme value difference swings.

Now, good luck convincing cg to make any changes :)

This is a pretty niche problem and could have been avoided in first place. Since even major flaws aren't being addressed, this will probably not even be considered.. and imho it shouldn't, because it would lead to more problems while solving just a little one for few users.

1. As LFPG pointed out: points are a limit to not enter too many giveaways. Lowering 0 CV games to 0 points would mean that you could enter all 0 CV games. If you aren't picky by own standards, you will enter all you don't own. Way more entries => lower chances for everyone.
2. You don't have to be in value ratio restricted groups. You chose to join the group for more giveaways to enter. Then you should also calculate beforehand how to keep up the ratio and not join group GAs that could get you into a bad position.
3. These is no reasonable reason for the overpriced games. The reason is abuse (CV, trading value, fake bundle value, worst case: money laundering). Changing CV because of this utter trash would be a reward for those scheming people. Completely contradictionary for SG and its community.

Most of them decline EU cards, and accept only local payments.

DIG accepts EU cards and isn't expensive. For the Russian key stores listed by OVH: did you try a Revolut card? Because that worked in the past. You could also do trading with Russians. And while the single games are listed at 200 € at times, during sales some of those devs have complete the set bundles at Steam with > 90 % off.
For these games you don't rely on giveaways and even less on giveaways in few value ratio restricted groups.

Why would SG be responsible for group ratios?

It is still a "Suggestion", not a task.
I don't want to tell again and again why it is a problem. Read back please!
If you not see a problem, there is no problem.

If you are this site developer try to figure out the best solution... Maybe add +1 column to database (count point value).
Point value (for enter GA) is the same as now used, counted point value is zero when game is " ** " category or maximized to 20 when game is "steam limited". Otherwise point value = counted point value.