Keep them out. Not going to put my family at risk for the sake of others.
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Thinking with a cold mind, I think not letting them in is the best option.
A) Family and friends ( loved ones, high esteem ) + couple of hundreds of strangers
B) Bunch of people + killer
The first group has loved ones plus more people than the group coming from the outside.
The second group brings a killer who will undoubtly kill and not be found and disrupt the place; also with the posibility of killing one of your loved ones.
If I choose to not let them in, they will suffer outside and there is chance that they will die. They also have the chance to survive by their own.
Due to the restrictive nature of the question, I think not letting them in really outweights the other choice.
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I played the walking dead, so i kill them all before the zombies kills them T.T
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I would tell them to seek refuge somewhere else. It is selfish, but I value my own life and the lives of my family/friends more than the lives of a bunch of random people.
I am honestly quite surprised by the results of the poll.
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it's the irony of steamgifts. they would vote to permaban people on first offense, but they would sacrifice loved ones to shelter others in a hypothetical situation.
such big-hearted and understanding people we have. ❤️
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Generally I don't care much for many of your ironic posts but I find this particular one is very apropriate
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I don't understand why these two thing can't go along togheter :P
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0 tolerance
you have 2 unactivated wins, you can't remain on sg stealing games from honest people! *nazi salute*
110% tolerance
awww look children and sick people outside! let's sacrifice some people inside to the invisible serial killer <333333
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If you refuse people outside you are probably going to sacrifice them too, so I don't think it's a matter of tolerance.
You choose who you want to sacrifice, not if you want to sacrifice, at least as I understood :)
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based on the "game" description, i wouldn't sacrifice them, they would rather be left to their fate/luck/whatever.
the only thing that is fixed is people getting killed if i let them in. so that's a sacrifice.
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You make a great point. Maybe the people who voted to let the crowd in assumed that they all have a high CV, a good sent/received ratio and that they have passed the sgtools check.🤔
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Let innocent persons from outside die...or doom innocent persons already inside to die...
Seems like the choice is pretty obvious. Screw the outsiders. NEEDS OF THE MANY.
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First of all what kind of big shot am I to be deciding this for a couple hundred people? :P
There'd be a lot of yelling and "voting" but my vote would be to let them in. By sending them away you're consciously condemning the whole group to death, by letting them in you're taking a chance cause you're not a fuckin oracle to know there'd be a killing spree or even a way to be certain the escaped killer is among them. Also we're talking about a closed, overcrowded space, so even if a spree starts it won't be long before the witch hunt starts. I'm more worried about the brutality the rest will show than the killer to be honest at that point.
Although if we were looking at this realistically the choice would most definitely be take the families and the sick in and no idea what to do with the rest. In general if others in the group can vouch for you, you're in. If you're a lone serial killer gtfo :D
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I'd probably come to realize the autism is putting me in a spot ... the irrational decisions and context given. Ugh not again - a splitting headache ... switch on the Ipod-Shuffle and listen to some relaxing ASMR music while the other guests can figure out what to do.
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I would thank them for skyrim, then send them on their way with a brand new potato.
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Tell them to bugger off, they're strangers, i care about my family/friends more than I care about a bunch of strangers especially when one of them is a serial killer.
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Not to be picky but if it's an 'escaped' serial killer surely there's a way to identify him. I think your example would work better if you just would ask if people would let a group of random unknown people stay with them. I may show that if people would not assume that there's a 'serial killer' within a certain demographic most of them would of course help those in need...
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A cop interacted with a portion of the group at one point and informed them that a serial killer was on the loose, but didn't have a chance to give a description. The cop died/vanished/left the group. Later that portion met up with the rest of their larger group, which had been experiencing random, suspicious deaths.
It's pretty easy to create a plausible fiction for how that element of the dilemma exists as-written.
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Sure is, but it might be more 'realistic' if you just made it a 'you might not have enough resources after letting the people in' scenario. It doesn't really matter either way.
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:eyes the scenario: I wouldn't say realism really plays a factor in the scenario as-written. I was just trying to indicate that of all the components, that's probably one of the least dubious.
That said, I'd definitely have to agree that your fix of "you don't know if you have enough supplies to support everyone until the blizzard ends or help arrives" resolves most of the issues in the scenario rather cleanly.
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Realism isn't the right word... let's say 'calm'? I quite like the moral problem and to see how people answer it, but I personally would like to see how people would react to a calmer scenario. That's probably it.
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Are the sick people contagious? I'm more concerned about them than the serial killer
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Presumably they're only sick from exposure or from zombie bite infection. Shouldn't be anything to worry about..
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I feel like this could be linked to the problem of immigration in my country.
People are coming by boat, some of them are evil and part of the organized crime but most are good people seeking for shelter or a better life.
You have the certainty that some will hurt or even kill local people, but you also have the certainty that if you refuse them all you will make them suffer or even get them killed.
It's not an easy choice, but I would do the same thing in both situations: let them in and control them as best as I can
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I wouldn't let them in. In such situation I would protect my own, couldn't care less if people I don't even know die. Of course these conditions aren't realistic though, in real life you could always select a few people to let in (children, sick, etc...) or even investigate to find out who the serial killer is before anyone is killed and keep everyone alive.
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There is one safer way.
Close the door on Group 2 and let them stay out because hundreds of persons in a ski resort is probably pretty cramped to begin with.
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But there's hundreds of group 1. And only enough of group 2 to fit into a method of transportation that can reach a Ski Resort. You're looking at worst-case scenario 200 vs 30ish.
Group 1 can win a good russian war with those odds.
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What if it is a fortified ski resort because it used to belong to a former Bond villain?
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This War of Mine couldn't make me answer this and neither will you 😼✌
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Wouldn't it be the decision of who is the owner of the ski resort?
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Plottwist: When I read this thread's title, my first response was "Burn it all down with fire."
Once I loaded the thread, my answer still felt pretty functional. Clearly, I'm the owner of the ski resort.
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If you know there is a serial killer among them, you know what to look out for. Suddenly all you have to do is make logical steps to prevent anyone from being killed. Make it so that there is a 3-4 person buddy system (children don't count to total) for stuff like bathroom trips or when anyone has to go do anything. In fact if these buddy systems are 4 person (adult) assigned teams, everyone is always accounted for and no one can sneakily go off. Boom people saved, moral code satisfied, and no one dead.
A better question is: how do we know a serial killer is somewhere in the group. ;)
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Why am I the one making this decision? Clearly I don't own the place if I'm there as a guest, so I wouldn't be answering a knock on the door to begin with.
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You've already forgotten your election to town Mayor? =O
Well, I guess given that your entire campaign revolved around you being intoxicated non-stop, we shouldn't really have expected you to remember any of it.. :/
I voted for you. :)
Your "a beer in every hand" initiative won me over. >.>
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Well that makes one of us who remembers. Must've been one hell of a campaign, especially considering I don't drink.
.....Wait a minute, you're the killer aren't you. I'm onto you mister.
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.....Wait a minute, you're the killer aren't you. I'm onto you mister.
I'm sure I have no clue what you're referring to. >.>
Must've been one hell of a campaign, especially considering I don't drink.
Basically the whole town was drunk, so noone actually remembers who was elected. I guess if you were the only sober person, you could pretty easily trick the rest of us into thinking you were the mayor..
A better question is, what the heck was in that alcohol, and where did we get so much of it. :X
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I dunno, I mean it'd make a cool movie and all but.....I don't eat Pork. Why am I mentioning this? I have it on good authority that Human meat tastes like Pork, so.....yeah. Wouldn't touch that.
I'd be more likely to let them in one at a time, locking them in a storage room with nothing to eat but baked beans until the killer gave him(or her)self up.
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I would let the 2nd group in, and call on the power of the Albatross to save everyone.
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They can build igloo or something
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Follow up scenario for the people that voted to send those people away:
Having sent the group away you and your loved ones, along with the other couple hundred people, survived this ordeal and were soon rescued. Back into your cozy home you hear on the news that the people you sent away mostly died, some from exposure, some murdered, some just went missing and a few survived. However when they finally reached the nearest village the serial killer was nowhere to be found, it appears he slipped away just before.
Time passes and now it's summer. You don't even wanna think about mountains anymore so you decide to take your family and go on a cruise. You plan everything, make the reservations, buy a new swimming suit cause you gained some weight and you look ridiculous in your old one but at the last minute there's an unforeseen development at your workplace and you have to miss the trip. However you insist your family goes and enjoy themselves without you.
As luck would have it the serial killer from the previous scenario was finally in custody and is also being transported on that very ship(don't ask me how, he just is!). You call your family every day to see how they're doing and they've been doing great, they've been having a blast for the past week or so. One day no matter how much you call you just can't connect through. So you turn on the news and you find out the ship your family was on has sunk. At the area was another ship, capable of picking up all the survivors(your family included) however knowing there was a serial killer among the group the captain decided to not save them. He had his own family on board and didn't wanna risk their safety so now your family is gone.
What are your feelings towards the captain?
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My first thought was that this must be meant as a reply to someone else but regardless of that I find this thread very entertaining so if I've said something pleasing I'm happy though slightly confused.
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Well I voted to send away based on the conditions given by the OP, which were very limited and don't reflect what would have happened in reality.
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hate and anger. which are legit and natural feelings (despite what the egomaniac goodthinkers says) given the fact that we are emotional beings, with annexed all the infinite chance that it open to us, most of the time morally and or ethically wrong. probably the beloved of those who died during that sky resort trip feel the same toward me, and it is legit in the same way. they hate me and they want to kill me. and now we have new killers on the loose seeking for revenge. i could be corroded by hatred at the point that i could become a killer too, and 10 or 20 years later that cruise and the demise of my beloved i might be on a trip in an african natural park, a trip that that captain wanted to do for a long long time, and surprise surprise
hes there too!
much wow.
unfortunately the jeep where we traveled ran out of fuel and the park guard decided to not let us in in the car because omg he was afraid that the lions could come in and kill his coworker of which hes is secretly in love with. in the end our small group of dispersed will roam the african savanna for days, alone and completely isolated from the rest of civilization. i will met my end when one fo the mountain survivor has the change to stab me to death. but only after ive strangled the captain with his own guts. heck, fuck that fuckar. 10 years after, our safari guard is on an airplane headed to japan. god he wanted to visit japan soo bad that he went by himself to cut out distraction leaving his beloved coworker at home taking care of theyr kids. by a strange coincidence on the airplane there is also the widow of one of the traveler that went to that safari 10 years ago that was eaten alive by the lions, whose only crime was being in the wrong place at the wrong time, finding himself trapped in a net bigger than him. and the wheel will keep on turning. always has, always will.
the end.
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At that point one might inquire whether the last name of that serial killer is Vorhees or Myers.
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It's a polar bear because you're at the North Pole.
He stood on a block of ice and it melted.
The doctor can't operate because she is the patient's mother.
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Form into groups, take a vote, then choose whether or not to allow the refugees inside.
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