Hello everyone .

Its June, which is what many of you already know to be Pride Month. The title of the thread should have clued you in , that is if you know how to read.

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For the uninformed and those who wish to learn more
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June marks the beginning of a series of events that take place over the month ranging from MASSIVE PARADES to small informational kiosks. with people all around the world uniting in standing up for the LGBT+ community , no matter their nationality ,race ,age , or even sexuality. Well , due to Covid19 there has been some changes. Most events have been moved online , delayed , or out right cancelled.

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it's more about not being ashamed of who you are.

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Being proud out of yourself isnt same as discriminating others.
Im proud i worked out and lost some weight isnt same as me bulling overweight people, etc etc

Fighting for your rights isnt same as taking rights from ones who already have them. It doesnt have to be freaking hunger games.

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you say this shit and then then do this shit.

i honestly dont get it. why be a homophobe if you are just gonna try to apologize for it again? almost like a cycle with you.

3 years ago
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Maybe because of this.

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Why aren't you replying in the first place?

Why would you be proud of your sexual orientation?

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Because of people like you, who try to tear us down just because we experience love differently than you.
So I am proud to still be here, still be incredibly happy with who I am, despite the constant hate from homophobes.

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What the fuck

How am I tearing you down? I am absolutely not. I have always been supportive of people, whomever they love. Please stop making up stuff, that's absolutely inappropriate.

My questions still stands tho

Why would you be proud of your sexual orientation?

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I am the last burger that fights against the annoying gay
Why would you be proud of your sexual orientation?

How is this supportive though?

I already answered, go troll somewhere else ffs

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dont expect any actual replies from the guy. just expect a half-assed apology in a couple of months and then he will go back to doing this in no time.

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Yeah, I know, I've seen his threads in the past. I was just kinda bored yesterday, so I went "aight, let's try and see where it goes". ^^

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I answered you hours ago. Why are you picking on one user when there's been many replies already?

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It's not Pride as in arrogance. It's Pride as in the opposite of shame.
Because people have been shamed, harassed, fired, brainwashed, tortured, raped, beaten and killed for simply being in love with someone else. Human beings. Like you and me. And it's still going on in a third of the world. And it's been going on for thousands of years.
So the ones who can love who they love and be happy to be alive and to be able to live another day choose to celebrate not having to be ashamed for it.

And to remember those who are made to be ashamed for their heart. And those who came before them and couldn't be proud.

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And it's been going on for thousands of years.

Since you bring it up I'll take it as an excuse to go on a little detour about a topic that crossed my mind yesterday. The perception of Homosexuality during the ages.

I'm a bit of a history enthusiast and beside the great battles and global politics I always find it interesting to also learn how the people lived and stuff like the role of women in various societies or their perception of homosexuality.


I might be mistaken but it wasn't thousands of years but rather a thousand or maybe 1500. Surprisingly many of our ancestors were much more openminded about homosexuality than many of us are nowadays. I'll just throw around some tidbits about the few antique cultures where I know a little bit about their stance regarding homosexuality. Please keep in mind that in history the life of the upper classes is always much better documented than those of commoners because in most cultures those were usually illiterate.

I'll go from totally fabulous to do whatever floats your boat:

The Spartans: The Spartans were totally gay. This is not a modern misconception but to a large degree documented. It makes sense considering every young Spartan would live in training camps outside of town from a rather young age on and would continue living in those colleges even after their military training had finished and they have reached full citizenship. On top of that every young Spartan was given an experienced soldier as a Mentor. It's well documented those experienced soldiers often had carnal relationships with their young protΓ©gΓ©es. There's also evidence that suggests that lesbianism was also not unheard of in Sparta but the life of women in antiquity is never as well documented as the life of men.

Japan: Homosexuality has been accepted behaviour in Japan since at least the 10th century. In ancient times the love between men was actually considered the purest form of love. Never was homosexuality considered a sin in Japan and only relatively recently the perception has started to somewhat change.

Ancient Greece beside Sparta: Ancient Greece in general was pretty gay. Maybe it wasn't as commonplace as in Sparta but Homosexuality was by no means considered scandalous.

Rome: I'm not sure it was like that from the beginning in the times of the Republic or only later during the Empire but for a wealthy roman having sex with both his female AND male slaves was by no means a big deal. Sex between two men wasn't considered shameful, at least not for the top part. However there seems to have been a stigma in being a bottom.


Those are the few examples I'm aware of but if anybody knows about the stance of other ancient cultures regarding Homosexuality I'd appreciate if you share your thoughts.
It would be intersting to know what for example barbarian cultures like Celts or Skythes thought about Homosexuality. Or also Egypt or the Persians. Or the various steppe civilizations.

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Sorry to continue the tangent. Also a bit of a history buff and I have studied a bit of history at university.

While it's true that homosexuality was more accepted in ancient Greece than it would be during later times, the evidence of how accepted it is are sparse, and the writing we do have about it was often written hundreds of years after the fact. That's a pretty big problem with history writing during the ancient times in general, we're basically relying on sources that themselves were the history books of their time, rather than primary sources. We can say with some certainty that the Greeks were more open and accepting than say the 13th century Christians were, but we can't really say a whole lot more than that. Also chances are pretty big that the perception of homosexuality would have varied a varied a fare bit depending on exactly where and when, we are after all talking about a pretty large timespan (depending on the exact definition of "ancient Greece" it might well have been a timespan larger than that between the time of Ancient Greece and now).

This gets further clouded by the fact a lot of what we "know" about the sexual habits of ancient Greece were in fact written with the intent of making Greek society seem more decadent and hedonistic, and were written in the last couple of hundred years. Things like this does make it very hard to know what's fact and what's just made its way into history books as "facts". This is generally a pretty common issue with a lot of history writing, it's hard to untangle facts from fiction when certain things have been repeated over and over again over a long period of time. Heck, we're pretty bad at this even for more recent things.
A more recent example (not related to people's sexuality, just meant to illustrate a point) would be the depiction of the Soviet union during WW2. Most western sources got their information about the Soviet Union from the Germans, who in tern were not always the most reliable writers, and many of them did have reasons to depict the Soviet Union one way or another (often to paint themselves in a better light), and thus a lot of misconceptions and exaggerations and falsehoods did end up making their way into our history books, which are now just treated as "truths" even when they're not (add in the political interests in places like the US to portray the Soviet Union in a really negative light and you've got a recipe for bad history writing). Pretty certain the same thing happened on the Soviet side as well, but I know less about their history writing.

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I don't think I have much to add to that because to my limited knowledge everything you just said is correct.

Full disclosure I did not study history. I mostly like to watch history videos on YouTube. Stuff like Kings and Generals, Historia Civilis, occasionally Invicta and the YouTube channel Old Cultures of the University Hamburg.

Also my main interest was the Roman Republic and Empire and then I started branching out from there.

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Spartans and generally ancient Greeks seem pretty gay by today's standards but it also stems from them being very misogynistic and biased towards men, so that's kind of a double edged sword. Also a lot of the time it wasn't what we would call homosexuality today (as in sex between two consenting men) but more akin to rape of young men by older authority figures, although it was often idealized in literature. The same applies to Japan and the practice of "WakashudΓ΄" (which indeed started to get frowned upon not so long ago, in the 19th century Meiji era where Japan opened up its borders to the western world).

As for Persia / Turkey there's also some similar unsavory history of homosexuality (which still endures today. Lesbians had it better, in some parts of these areas it was not uncommon for widows or even wives to be in lesbian relationships and it was generally accepted by men (can't remember theTurkish term for it though :/).

Medieval Europe was much more accepting of homosexuality than in the later Renaissance - Modern era, where the religious authorities cracked down on it. There were a lot of scandals about poor nobles prostituting their younger sons to wealthier men in Renaissance Italy and among other things it prompted the Church to actively hunt homosexuals, where they more or less turned a blind eye before. There are accounts of homosexual medieval monks for example, and the general consensus was more along the lines of "lol they're having buttsex" than "filthy creatures, burn them".

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You bring up a good point about homosexuality in antiquity often (if not in the majority of cases) not being between two consenting men of equal status but rather involving a significant power difference.

Now that you mention it I recently saw part of a documentary when channel hopping about the political impact of coffee where they mentioned those beardless young men (dancing boys), but completely forgot about it. Apparently they were a common sight in coffeehouses and the practice did not necessarily always involve sex but was rather some spiritualized (?) form of erotic but I should have guessed it didn't always stop there.

The last paragraph about Medieval Europe being more accepting of homosexuality than the later Renaissance was completely new to me and thus the most interesting. I might have more to add later but I'm playing Zombie Army 4 with my buddies in 10 minutes so I had to cut it short.

Thanks for sharing your insights πŸ˜‰

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I think there's also a case to be made that a lot of heterosexuality in those times was not consensual either. Rape, forced prostitution and let's not forget arranged marriages were common practices.

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Rape, forced prostitution and let's not forget arranged marriages were common practices.
As it is today.

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Sad but true.

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While it hasn't been explicitly mentioned I don't think anybody is disputing that.

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Interesting. It's almost as if a couple of religions imposed their dim-witted view of people on the world somehow, right?
And hey since you bring up history, that gives me an excuse to mention this magnificent site (LGBTQHistory.org), and yet another inclusive perception in the world's history.

The First Nations (aka Native Americans) not only had no problem with the concept of Queerness, they even had a word for it. Traditionally, many Indigenous cultures recognized third and fourth alternative gender statuses that encompassed male, feminine, and unique traits. Two-Spirit people historically fulfilled specialized roles in both work and spiritual practices. The concept embraces various Queer identities of gender, and orientation.
Here is the LGBTQ History page for the Two Spirit and Non-Traditional Families and this lovely picture from 1866 says it all, really.

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The First Nations (aka Native Americans) not only had no problem with the concept of Queerness, they even had a word for it.

That's just because they're awesome. I'm only half awesome, though.

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Nonsense! You are fully awesome. Half of it may only come from heritage but the rest is all you, resulting in pure awesomeness ;)

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Interesting. It's almost as if a couple of religions imposed their dim-witted view of people on the world somehow, right?

Pretty much. For me that doesn't necessarily mean those religions or their followers are evil but it does mean high church officials have been lead astray from the path of brotherly love and they (high church officials) need to be shown the light to save their souls from eternal damnation.

The concept of two-spirited people reminds me a lot of the concept of Yin and yang their asian ancestors developed. I was gonna say so from that perspective aren't we all two-spirited but come to think of it is seems kind of arbitrary that we consider certain personality traits as male or female based just upon how common they are among men and women or how openly they are displayed.

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For me that doesn't necessarily mean those religions or their followers are evil

I don't think so either. It's just that a lot of things that were written thousands of years ago to function as law has no reason to be any more. What remains is used to push a political agenda and ofc the people on top of the hierarchy of these establishments don't get on top by wanting to change things so change is slow .I have good hope though that they are changing and that they will keep changing for the benefit of all.
There's a reason Jesus was an anarchist and it seems a lot of Christian churches are bent on demonstrating why. Not only Christian churches but that's where the irony is most palpable.

I was gonna say so from that perspective aren't we all two-spirited

Sometimes it does seem that we are but you're right, it's perception, as many things we take for granted because they are such a part of the fabric of our society and culture, we don't naturally question them.

it is seems kind of arbitrary that we consider certain personality traits as male or female based just upon how common they are among men and women or how openly they are displayed.

Exactly. Not just because they are most common to the gender but because of the display. Sometimes even most of all. And ofc they also change with the times. But some have a very long life, despite evidence of the contrary.
I have a coworker whose nephew (5 year old) enjoys playing with his sister's dolls. You have no idea the amount of angst it has caused his parents. My coworker is laughing his ass off about what he describes as the "dollgate". He says his brother is worried that the boy is "too feminine". How is a boy more "feminine" at 5 because he enjoys spending time with his sister pretending to feed a baby doll? Is caring for a child a "feminine trait"? He has a baby sister. He sees his parents take care of the baby. He does the same.
So when his dad takes care of the baby, it's masculine but because the boy does it, his dad worries it's too girly?

Now I went on a tangent on our tangent ;) Sorry. I just liked that you had the same thoughts I had when I first read about two-spirit.

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I just wanted to let you know that I love your comment.
It's a very loving, informative and non judgemental answer to a question that ... wasn't.
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Thank you.
I really wish I hadn't already answered that question at least a couple of times each year.
But a couple of years ago, a guy who came into this thread with that question said I actually helped him understand the concept of Pride Month (he wasn't a bigot to start with really, just someone who was confused by some of the rhetoric we see out there) so I'll always give it a try.

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Oh, dear dear dear. We need to talk about this outfit.

See, it looks like you’re going for an overall edgy troll look, but that whole vibe is like, several seasons out of date. And even independent of fashion trends, baldly discriminating against people is just so very gauche at this point.

And if you’re going to accessorize, then you need to go for subtlety! Trying to bait people into arguments about racism in addition to hating on gay people in a Pride thread? Coco Chanel once said that before you comment on Internet forums, you should take a look in the mirror and remove at least one piece of bigotry from your post. It really elevates the whole look.

The good news here is that you’re a burger, because if you were a person, people would take one look at you in this attire and see an unrepentant jerk who’s just here to stir shit and invoke anger. But, even more good news: no outfit is permanent! You can change up your look at any time! If you’d like any pointers at styling yourself better, please ask. We’re here to help.

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uhm I'm actually only asking the following:

"Why would you take pride in your sexual orientation".

It's not like I hate people with different opinions or whatever. I'm just wondering.

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Wie Fluffster gesagt hat. Es geht nicht darum Stolz auf die sexuelle Orientierung zu sein, sondern sich nicht fΓΌr seine sexuelle Orientierung schΓ€men zu mΓΌssen. Nicht Angst haben zu mΓΌssen angegriffen zu werden, weil man als nicht-hetero Paar erkennbar ist.

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Und warum heißt es dann "Pride", also "Stolz"?

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Weil, erst wenn man etwas mit Stolz ausleben kann, ohne Repressionen zu befΓΌrchten, der Scham und die Angst weg sind.

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Ich nehme dir dein "harmloses" Interesse nicht ab. Jedes Jahr gibt es an vorderster Stelle einen Link in diesen Threads, der erlΓ€utert was hinter dem Pride steckt. So auch dieses mal.
Statt einfach drauf zu klicken und dich zu informieren, hast du dich wieder mal dazu aufgerafft "zu fragen" und dabei gleich mehrere Beleidigungen an Mann oder Frau zu bringen. Dein Schauspiel ist so durchschaubar. Zumal es ja auch bei weitem nicht der erste Pride Thread ist bei dem du dich bemerkbar machst.

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Und schon wieder wird mir iwas vorgeworfen, statt mir zu erklΓ€ren, warum LGTBQIA+ STOLZ sind.

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Several others have already explained it. You're being deliberately obtuse so you can keep trolling.

Grow up and move on. Your little act is getting old.

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No.

No one did, actually.

I read all of the comments right now and no one could explain it to me.

Also, your second paragraph is nothing but offensive.

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Thanks for linking comments I already read, I guess?

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Tut mir ja schrecklich leid dass es dir in all den Jahren nicht gelungen ist die ersten Zeilen des Wiki Eintrages zu lesen, wo deine Frage direkt beantwortet wird.
Ja, schon ein tragisches Schicksal wenn man derart unverschuldet in Dummheit und Ignoranz verbleiben muss.

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Und schon wieder nur Beleidigungen.. bist du auch stolz auf dich selbst? Hm?

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Deine Nichtleistung verdient es einfach entsprechend gewΓΌrdigt zu werden.

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Ist okay. Muss auch schlechte Menschen wie dich geben.

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Falls du als guter Mensch durchgehst, nehme ich das gerne auf mich.

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Da ich keine fremden Menschen random im Internet beleidige, bin ich definitiv besser als du.

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Hach Gottchen, der Typ der sich alle paar Monate fΓΌr sein extrem schlechtes Benehmen entschuldigt, will nie jemanden beleidigt haben. Man kann es sich kaum absurder ausmalen.

Edit: Da von dir eh nichts sinniges zu erwarten ist, steige ich aus.

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Dann zeig doch mal einen Kommentar von mir hier, wo ich jemanden beleidigt habe. Ich warte.

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No, your outfit tells everyone that you β€œfight against the annoying gay” and compares us to β€œfucking racists”. That’s not asking questions, dear β€” you’re clearly wearing a statement piece. And if that’s the look you chose to leave the house in, then so be it. That’s your choice and by all means you can wear it, but it also means everyone can see it. Trying to walk it back while it’s still on you though isn’t really an option. You’re either wearing it or you’re not, and the only person who chooses to dress yourself up that way is you.

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Why are you calling me "dear"

That makes me fucking uncomfortable.

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Great! Now you know how uncomfortable I feel when someone walks into a Pride thread and says what you said.

I’ll stop here and drop the act: if you’re seriously just wondering then delete your post and go about it a better way. If you’re just trolling, well, you got the attention you wanted. Hope it was worth it.

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😘

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First sentence on the linked wiki page. Just inform yourself before making every blunder there is. Otherwise you just appear ignorant or trolling.

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He just want attention, not worth your time to responding. I understand he has no pride of being himself, but for such people report buttons exist.

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Snitches deserve stitches

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This was funny and really well-written. Thanks for the chuckle.

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XD you are now on my whitelist

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<3 I love everything about this comment.

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You know the shame, when you have a mustard stain on the middle of your shirt, and has to be in the open? This pride is the opposite of it - we often mix it up, or phrase it as being happy.
I like my shirt because it looks good on me, I'm proud of my purchase. I keep my head up high, and I don't wear extra clothing just to hide it because it has a huge mustard blot. It's nothing to hide
Or the old classic, " I'm proud of you " which shows respect and love.

The racist example is bad. The base of racism is that I am what I am, and that's more than you. Also involves hate, aggression, belittling others, and a lot more nasty things. It's way too complex to compare it with LGBT Pride's "I am who I am, and I'm not ashamed of it" pride.

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weird that you include "berlin" in your name. almost like you have nationalistic pride?

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That's because "t0b3" was already taken and I had to come up with something to add to it. Has nothing to do with anything of pride.

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listen, you can have nationalistic pride all you want, but do you really have to be so flamboyant about it? like, we get it, you enjoy bigotry, but its so blatant. you should really only act like that in your own bedroom. none of us want to see that.

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Nice try, but I won't fall for your absolutely moronic attempt.

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Lol do you think I'm trying to trick you? You actually think that being out and proud means that gay people hate straight people. Please Google "moronic."

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I'm beginning to suspect that it's just attention seeking at this point. He might be agreeing with what he's saying, but the way he just keeps repeating the same "question" every time he gets a chance and keeps getting the same replies every single time makes me think he's at this point just doing it because he knows it will get him attention, even if it means that he sometimes hurts others in the process.

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Yup.

The repeated messaging does help keep the thread bumped though, so that's a plus. Despite their best efforts, they're actually really helping to promote LGBTQ+ visibility by putting this thread back at the top every single time they comment.

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I want the LGTBQIA+ community to have more visibility.

Fuck, I shared an appartment with a gay dude for 3 years once.

I just don't get why you would take pride in being "different".
I mean
I hate when people take pride in being straight.
You simply don't choose to be either, right?

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I want the LGTBQIA+ community to have more visibility.

Then try leading with something like that instead of an insult the next time this topic comes up.

I just don't get why...

You won't get my sympathy for not understanding something while you're simultaneously resisting every effort to learn it like you have all across this topic. I dropped my act -- it's well past the point that you should drop yours.

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I don't need anyone's sympathy.
I'm just having a hard time understanding the whole concept because I was raised by ignorant parents.

Still, I know that much to tell that you don't get to choose how you are.
And being not straight isn't being "different" but being a fucking normal human being.
Like.. idk how to say this, I'm sorry, English isn't my first language, but
Being gay, trans, lesbian, whatever, is completely normal.

So please don't get me wrong here. I never intended to insult LGTBQIA+ peeps.
I just question if you really should take pride in something that is completely normal.
I understand that "different" people were oppressed in the past, but that's not a thing anymore.

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but that's not a thing anymore

As others have pointed out, unfortunately that is very much not the case. Hence the continuing need for Pride.

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It's not?
Where tho?
Sorry for asking

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In lots of very religious countries being gay is still illegal, and even where it is legal LGBT+ people are often attacked, abused etc by homophobic morons. Surely you are aware of this???

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Just a heads up, you're telling t0b3berlin things he already knows. He's had the exact thing you're explaining to him explained several times over the years. He's just being a troll and he'll ask the exact same things next year as well.

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... and then he'll backpedal like mad and play the victim when confronted about it.

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I figured as much, but I couldn't bear to leave the question just hanging there unanswered... πŸ˜…

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I live in Szczecin (Stettin in german), 150 km east from Berlin. Come and stay a while here in Poland and you will understand that you don't have to look for extreme examples of Far East, fundamental Islamic countries, to eyewitness that kind of oppression. Heck, even constitution, law isn't treating people equally here because for example the legal marriage is only possible between people of different biological sexes and that in itself has many repercussions. It's just a tip of an iceberg. We are kinda close neighbours, yet our countries are so different. Think about it for a minute.

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I probably shouldn't even try because multiple people have already answered and you just ignore it, but maybe you are thinking of the wrong definition of pride. Let's look in the Oxford English Dictionary, which is widely regarded as the accepted authority on the English language. There's one definition here

[uncountable, singular] a feeling of pleasure or satisfaction that you get when you or people who are connected with you have done something well or own something that other people admire

or perhaps:

[uncountable] (disapproving) the feeling that you are better or more important than other people

I think this is what you are thinking of.

Then there is this definition:

[uncountable] the feeling of respect that you have for yourself

This is what we mean by pride. We mean we are not ashamed of our sexuality or gender identity, like many of us were taught or a good portion of the world views us.

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I see. Thanks for your input. I will have a read.

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Tell me please. Can a person be ashamed of his dinner because children was and are starving in Africa? Must that person be proud (in any definitions) of the fact that he had a dinner and some poor child in Africa had none?

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Slogans tend to be worded positively and shortly. So it's rather "Pride Month" or "gay pride" instead of "No shame month" or "gays not hiding".
It's not about pride of being gay, there is no reason for that It's about being pride of not surrendering to the partial antiquated mindset of society and the issues that come up with it. E.g. as a German you may know the debate that no football player has had his coming out during his career yet, right? Besides that media would pounce on that poor guy just for being the first, thirsty for the sensation, he would probably get a lot of hate messages in social media and in public.

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Happy Pride Month!

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yes join

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:O
Such a great game πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™

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🀩 You are the best

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That's just pure evil! πŸ˜„ That's the first time I kind of regret having taken an oath of abstinance never to enter a giveaway again. But I think I'll stick to my nice and even 20 thousand entries. I have more good games that deserve playing in my pile of shame already than can be played in a lifetime.

Begone temptress!

πŸ˜…

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Happy Pride month! 🌈

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Happy Pride Month!

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Have a bump

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oh there you are

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Did you really think I would not make an appearence :P

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oh I knew you would was just waiting for when it would happen

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Happy pride month :)

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Sharing this lovely site here because I mentioned it upthread but it's in the middle of the Troll thread so I wouldn't blame anyone for having skipped the whole thing.

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Lots of resources, articles and actual lesson plans with discussion topics, multimedia resources and further readings.

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Memes everywhere my dude.

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why did you BL me?

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Happy pride month!

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This thread is a good place to find people who are intolerant of others, homophobes and homophobophobes alike

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Best place to test the Ignore list function of ESGST, I find ;)

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Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. β€” Karl Popper

https://medium.com/thoughts-economics-politics-sustainability/why-intolerance-should-not-be-tolerated-d1bc92228dec

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It's a fascinating paradox, to be sure. I don't agree that hate speech needs to be suppressed because it's unclear what constitutes hate speech. I do think we need to be intolerant of violence, outside of self defense and maybe as a form of mitigation (WWII nukes.) There's likely other things I would consider reasonable to not tolerate, but I think we should tolerate as much as possible, within reason, and that includes a fair amount of intolerance.

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Rather than tolerate as much as possible, I believe we need to educate as much as possible, to eliminate as much intolerance as possible. ;)

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Well, if I'm tolerant of your intolerance of intolerance, and you are intolerant of my tolerance of intolerance, then I guess we can get along :]

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