Would you like Nioh PC version?
I have Nioh on my PS4 and it is such a great game. I haven't finish 1st mission yet since i am busy with work. Also playing Alpha and Beta.
But i have a question. What is wrong with not buying PS4 if you want to play some of their exclusive games? If you are gamer shouldn't you get yourself a PC and PS4? Having PS4 and PC is great in this time. Trust me Buying PS4 is worth it cos it has alot of exclusive games coming out.
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I agree 100% I game on both ps4 and PC....PS4 has some amazing exclusives that won't come out on PC...so, as a gamer only playing one or the other means you're missing out...Xbox One you can pass on, since now most of their exclusives are being released on PC as well.
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yea...but dark Souls wasn't published by a console company...It was released on multiple consoles...having a petition like this, is like having one asking Nintendo to release Animal Crossing on PC...or Metroid...They are console sellers..incentives for people to buy their console..Sure, far down the road they might release it on PC if they develop an operating system they want to promote(Like Microsoft with windows 10) or once they give up on console making (Like SEGA did with their products), but by then I doubt people will still be interested...otherwise..i wouldn't hold my breath(except MAYBE later on in their playstation NOW subscription service)
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But i am just saying People need to understand and accept it if is Publish by Sony then it is Sony IP so they owned it no matter who developers is and it is samething all over again with Bloodborne cos it was Sony IP and they own it or similar to Bayonetta 2 is being Nintendo IP now since they funded it. I even wanted that game on PS4 but i have accept when you know why it won't come to other since is funded by Nintendo.
But if it isn't Sony IP of it then i understand and by all mean they can create a Petition. But they should also learn to know it is up developers to do what they want to do their IP.
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Hey Mobin1, it's a very different situation to Bloodborne, which was made for and funded by Sony, it was their IP from day 1. Nioh is Koei Tecmo's intellectual property, the deal with Sony was only recently announced in November, and KT are self-publishing the game in Japan, something they would not be able to do if it was Sony's IP.
Folks keep making comparisons to Bloodborne, but there's a significant difference.
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I know i am late to reply cos i was heaps busy and too tired and didn't has time to reply.
I just want to say reread all of my comments cos i already said what you are saying.
When you said Folks keep making comparisons to Bloodborne, but there's a significant difference. That is a problem with the other people who created those Petitions doesn't understand a significant difference to as Who owned IP.
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Gamers are the only community who support exclusives. Would anyone support a movie that only plays on Sony DVD/Blueray players? Would anyone support music that only plays on a certain brand of music player device or program?
Give me one reason it's a good idea to support exclusives. It's an anti-consumer business deal, you have to buy a console to play a certain game, they dont do it because it results in a better game, all games are developed on PC and are then downgraded to run on consoles (not only graphics). The reason they dont release it on more platforms is because the publishers pay them not to, because if there were no exclusives, there would be no reason to buy a console because no matter what you do, a PC will always perform better.
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Why do people keep bring up PC will always perform better? I am pretty sure everyone know that and that is just a poor excuse those people keep using over and over again. And why there are also people saying console is downgraded or is inferior to PC.
PC also has anti-consumer business deal too you know not just Consoles some of PC games are not on Console, so if you want it to be fair then make them appear on all of the platforms.
"if there were no exclusives, there would be no reason to buy a console because no matter what you do" <---This is where you are wrong. Did you forget about 3rd party games that are on every platforms? They still sold well on Consoles. Just because PC perform better doesn't mean it is for everyone, PC is not very simple and sometime it is difficult to use or to understand. While Console is very simple and easy to use and also sometime cheaper too. But if you are Gamer and you can able afford them all then go for it why just pick one side when you get all of them huh?
Lastly you have to deal with it, when it is exclusives because that is the business and that how it is no matter what.
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Why do people keep bring up PC will always perform better?
Because it does. Every time.
And why there are also people saying console is downgraded or is inferior to PC.
Because they do and they are. See for yourself: Comparison | Comparison 2
Downgraded? Yes
Inferior? Yes
You will not find any game that runs better on a console than it does on PC unless you try running them on a toaster.
Did you forget about 3rd party games that are on every platforms?
No I have not but if there were no exclusives much less people would buy consoles. I know a few people who buy consoles for exclusives and then end up buying the rest of next gen games they want to play for console out of convenience. Also on a developer's side, it costs extra money to port a game to consoles. The only reason they do it is because there's a market for consoles, mostly due to exclusives.PC is not very simple and sometime it is difficult to use or to understand
It is in fact pretty simple. You can Google any question you have regarding PCs, there are sites that help you choose components and check compatibility with you (or you can have it done by a third party for a small fee or you can buy pre-built PCs), you can even watch a tutorial while building a PC. Running a PC is not harder than running a console.
While Console is very simple and easy to use and also sometime cheaper too.
They are not cheaper. Price comparison
Initial cost to set up a PC might be more expensive than buying a console, but it's not like you have to upgrade your hardware too often. On the other hand, you dont have to pay to be able to pay online (why would anyone pay money to play online, you're already paying your ISP?) and games are much cheaper on PC than they are on consoles. Also dont forget that a PC is not only for games, you can use it for a wide range of things that are not gaming. Don't see why I should invest in a box that is only good for playing downgraded games.
Also
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Please reread my 1st Paragraph. If you didn't understood what i was saying. I trying to say those people who keep bringing it up it is trying to disrespect Consoles Gamer. If you are PC Gamer and PC is your choice then it doesn't mean you have right to disrespect other who choice is Consoles by continue bragging about PC is superior cos that is what those Fanboys does not the gamer. You can have friendly talk about PC with Console gamer that is fine but don't brag about it too much or disrespect it by saying it is downgraded, Inferior etc..
When you say PC is simple because you have google it, Which is not because you will need alot of time spending and reading and google it to understand how keep PC make it work fine.
I have Bad experience on PC rather than on Consoles. I have send PC to repair many times, it always gave out alot of problem like HDD died, Memory fail and PSU died and Mobo Died, graphic card died too and all cost so much to repair and to replace. Also getting Virus is worse thing always happened and i end getting it reformatted too many time and i find it annoyed. To stop getting virus you have get some knowledge about which antivirus you need to buy to protect your PC from it. Sometime Anti-Virus doesn't work and still end up getting Virus.
I has another PC that stopped letting me playing any Video movies on VLC and MPC cos it keep giving out error so i try to google it no answer was found and tried some of method on google still doesn't work. See what i meant by it isn't simple. When your PC getting error and you can't able to way to fix it yourself then it not simple anymore.
That why i said consoles is simple, easy, cheaper too and doesn't gave too many problem. I has zero problems with any of consoles that i owned.
Let me ask you, will you play game because of graphic or story? Based on what you are showing me that you will only play games cos of graphic. For me it doesn't matter I go for story. I have PSP and 3ds and there is huge different in graphic and perform but i don't care cos i am gamer so i go for any story of games that i find it interest. I can also build high-end PC if i want but i don't want to it cos i don't need it right now. I am enjoying games on my consoles and use PC for other thing like surfing the net and watching movies. That why be Gamer and not a fanboy.
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don't brag about it too much or disrespect it by saying it is downgraded, Inferior etc..
You clearly havent checked the info I posted previously. Check the images and be honest, tell me, does PC perform better? Yes it does
When you say PC is simple because you have google it, Which is not because you will need alot of time spending and reading and google it to understand how keep PC make it work fine.
You dont "have to" Google it, what I said is that if you dont understand something, the information is very easy to find. On the other hand, when building a PC, even if you do it blind, you cannot really fuck it up, most cables can fit into only one slot for example.
What you're saying is basically "i have to put effort into it, it's bad!"
HDD dying, memory failing, PSU/Mobo dying is not a norm. If your hardware keeps dying on you, you're probably doing something wrong. I've had computers since I was 12 years old and never once did my mobo/PSU die or memory fail. I did encounter HDD dying but it's not common if you take care of it.
need to buy antivirus
You dont have to buy one, there are several free ones
Sometime Anti-Virus doesn't work and still end up getting Virus.
Dont visit suspicious websites or download files from untrusted sources, like some torrents for cracking games, stuff like that. If you take precautions you dont get viruses.
consoles is simple, easy, cheaper too
You clearly didnt read what I wrote. Consoles are not cheaper in the long run.will you play game because of graphic or story?
Neither, I play the game for the whole experience. Would you watch a movie that is made of stick figures? Some people would, but most wouldnt. Graphics alone dont make a good game, no, but good story alone doesnt make a good game either. Games are a whole experience made of a lot of things, story and graphics are only two parts of this whole.
My point about graphics isnt "oh it doesnt look real enough" or something like that. My point is that when they develop games and show off footage (like on E3), what they show utilises the latest technologies in the games industry and then later when they port the games for consoles, they downgrade them, like remove the lighting, put fog on so you can't see very far, because console versions have to run 20-25fps or no one will buy the game. For example
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You clearly haven't checked the info I posted previously. Check the images and be honest, tell me, does PC perform better? Yes it does <---I have read it already and i already know this but you should able to tell when you reread my 1st reply to your comment. Because that is no point i am making.
There is clearly nothing wrong with buying PS4 just because PC is better or even cheaper, i mean who care does that it matter? If you are Gamer you shouldn't stick to one side and you able to get both PC and PS4 to enjoy game without begging it. There is some some games only on PC but i am not going beg for it. Cos if i want to play then i would build better PC for it.
Lastly clearly as i say PC isn't simple to me as it is to you. I am not a PC person so not everyone is like you that think PC is simple because to some it isn't. I just love games on any platforms so i never dis them. There is big different between PC and Consoles. A huge different one is made for living lounge room and other made to solo only. PC can never fit in or go with entertainment table with TV cos PC Cases are very bigger than consoles are easy fit into entertainment table under the tv. However i use long HDMI cable from PC to plug it into Tv to watch movies or play some games with my PS4 controller. But i know PC is trying to find way to get fit into entertainment table.
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Running a console is literally plug and play, PC is really, really not. Not everyone is into tinkering, searching for solutions, workarounds and fixes. Some people just want an X hardware that will always run game Y without any problem. And that's a console. You try to be way too objective, while a lot of people buy stuff because they want it - simplicity and easy access sells incredible amounts of items and services.
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There is nothing wrong with preferring plug and play and simplicity/convenience, but claiming that it's on par with PC in performance is delusional. My problem is not the existence of consoles or people buying them, it's with people claiming that consoles can do anything better than PC when all the evidence is against it.
When they are told that PC gaming is cheaper on the long run they bring up upgrade costs being too high on PC or the initial PC building costs being higher but they completely dodge the fact that PCs are also good for many other things other than gaming so there's value in that as well, and that while the initial cost may be indeed higher, games are generally much cheaper so in the long run it's a better investment.
When they are shown evidence that PC performs better they come back with "arguments" like
"I dont play games for the graphics"
"I dont mind if it doesnt look realistic"
"lol I dont need 60 fps, human eye cant see beyond 30 anyway"
when it's not about the graphics, it's about devs making games that utilise the latest technologies, only to be downgraded so consoles can run it, volumetric fog/lighting cut, draw distance lowered, fog over everything so you cant see too far away, the list goes on. Ultimately, this somewhat damages the development of games because if it wasnt for the outdated console hardware, devs might actually push the development of these technologies harder.
Again, there is nothing wrong with having a console and liking the convenience they offer, but this convenience is offered at a higher price, at loss of freedom and performance. Denything this is delusional.
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If only people could separate themselves from their items and various purchases. Are the consoles weaker than price would suggest? Yes. Do they have good games to play? Yes. Does people enjoy playing on it? Yes. Why they can't accept it and just say " I know, but it doesn't bother me" ? I'm playing on a laptop because this is what was the only option in student hostels and is to this day during the university, yet I still can say that laptops are really overpriced for the sake of mobility and unless someone really wants to play and really has the money, gaming laptops are not a good idea financially...
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1) Exclusives are only to help sell low-end PCs (aka consoles) <---It is business and that is a life whether you like it or not. Also Consoles never felt like low-end PCs to me at all.
2) If every game was on every system, would you have bought your PS4? Probably not. Case in point. <---Do you speak for everyone or are just asking me, so just how would you know that? I would have still gotta PS4 cos it is cheaper and simple console and oh yes you are forgetting a 3rd party games that are on every system and i still buy it for PS4. So your point is?
3) Can't support games being held hostage just to push hardware sales. <---I guess that is just your opinion of that what you think of.
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I never said it is fact where does it say i said it fact? Reread my comments when i said to me at all and i am talking about myself and not saying it is facts. I really don't care how you see it and i take that your saying Facts is also an opinion to me.
Do you know that having PS+ is option but if you afford it then there is nothing wrong with it. PS+ gave out games every month if you never played any of game they gave out you are lucky enough to claimed it to play. Also PSN is free sometime Sony does special events that let everyone to play some of MP games for free. If you can afford PS+ then go for it just because PC is cheaper doesn't mean you can't play PS4 or have PS+. I feel as buying PS4 is cheaper in where as i live as compare to building a PC cost more.
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Hey guys, check out this update on the petition, Nioh is not an exclusive: https://www.change.org/p/koei-tecmo-bring-nioh-to-pc/u/19365308
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While I think it's inevitable that Ni-oh will come to PC at some point... I also think people are reading way too much into little things like this. Could simply be that different regions get different boxes manufactured at different places. Some that has the text and some that don't.
Especially this early after release, it makes no sense to do something like this deliberately.
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Well this is how Dark Souls made to PC so I can only hope (though dont know if the devs sold the IP to Sony or not..)
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It probably won't happen, but I signed anyway because the game looks good and I can't stand using consoles.
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Hey it worked
KOEI Tecmo has just announced that Nioh will be coming to the PC on November 7th. The PC will receive the Complete Edition (that will include the base game alongside the three DLCs that have been released).
Director Fumihiko Yasuda said:
“Team NINJA is well aware of the fact that many gamers have been passionately asking for a PC version of “Nioh”. I am thrilled to announce that this massocore game will finally be available for our die-hard PC fans in Nioh: Complete Edition! I hope you all enjoy the unforgettable drama and deeply challenging Yokai battles this action-packed experience has to offer.”
The digital-only PC release boasts stunning high-resolution graphics over two modes as Nioh: Complete Edition can be enjoyed either on ‘Action Mode’, featuring a stable 60fps, or on ‘Movie Mode’, a cinematic option that can expand the display resolution to 4K. These new enhanced graphical modes promise to bring the dark and beautiful world of Nioh to life like never before.
Enjoy!
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/nioh-complete-edition-is-coming-to-the-pc-on-november-7th/
Store page:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/485510/Nioh_Complete_Edition___Complete_Edition/
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Glad i've waited. Currently can only find a copy for about 50€ on PS4. Lets hope i eventually get it cheaper on PC
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The First 17 Minutes of Nioh video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc6LNzUnGkg
Petition: https://www.change.org/p/koei-tecmo-bring-nioh-to-pc
*Sorry, just that, English is not my native language.
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