I'm using a Galaxy GTX660 2GB and i love it. AC3 looks amazing on max settings :D
EVGA is supposed to have really good customer service, and their step-up program is great if you're on the fence about a product (you could switch your 660 for a higher version and pay the difference within x days of buying it or something like that), but I picked mine up for $165 after $10 MIR so Galaxy it is xD
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Not going for the 660 I can understand. But what's your reasoning behind the EVGA statement?
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Very true. Wasn't thinking about the cooler, but more so that I decided on the EVGA 670FTW because of it having the 680 PCB rather than the cut down EVGA 670 reference PCB and not so adequate cooler. But that's moreso the FTW part rather than the EVGA, specifically for the 670.
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8 VRM power phase in comparison to 4, better OC'ability, better binned, better cooling(compared to ref 670),. Regardless, at this point in time, I would also go MSI PE, the type of cooler the 670FTW uses can be a bit impractical compared to the type of cooling the PE uses, as well as most likely louder. Didn't know of the PE at the time of purchase. EVGA's customer support is pretty damn good though, not knowledgeable about MSI's. But I'm more than happy with my current GPU anyways. Hit 1275/7012 and don't go above 68c on stock voltage. Really don't have any large complaints.
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In terms of customer support of MSI, I used to fold, and mine heavily and I think I've broke 4-5 cards. I was able to RMA them no questions asked and got an replacement very quick.
Also, as you see in mobos, power phases aren't everything. The Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H has 6 power phases in comparison to the 8 of the Asrock Z77 Extreme4 but the gigabyte is way superior in terms of VRM/MOSFET quality. Thus, at 1.5v, the extreme4 is too hot to touch while the gigabyte is still fine.
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I see. I'm not too proud to be able to admit I'm not the most knowledgeable when it comes to VRMS/Mosfets. I currently am using the Z77 extreme4, but only have a Hyper 212 evo so I'm not going anywhere near 1.5v. 4.4ghz @ 1.224-1.232v. A bit disappointing as I see people hitting higher clocks on lower voltages, but I guess that's just the luck of the silicon lottery. Hit a wall trying to get to 4.5, need much much more voltage and it's never really fully stable, bummer.
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EVGA is the best in my experiences, most I know would agree.
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Really? Its the only brand I have used with 0 issues and I have ocerclocked my 460 pretty heavy, fan seems pretty nice.
I am sure some fans are better on others though. EVGA is solid though, they encourage overclocking, kinda like that and you can get their cards with lifetime warranties I think?
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Asus has terrible support actually, well at least the two times I dealt with them.
They make decent stuff though.
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Hmm, that seems to conflict with my own personal experience. I had to RMA mobos to them (such as an OB Rampage IV Formula and other mobos) to them in the past and they were able to get an replacement fairly quickly. I guess it just depends on the majority.
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Guess it does depends on what the problem is or who you get on support possibly.
Good that it worked out for you though. :-)
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Its not just fans, but rather the cooling system as a whole. If you compare the cooling ability of the Twin Frozr found on MSI cards and compare it to the ref cooling system used by EVGA, there is a difference between the two.
Sure you can get lifetime warranty with their cards but most cards can last at least a good three years or so and really, at that time it could be better to get new card. If you think about it, if you buy the midend or high end now (say 660 as OP is asking) and then upgrade in three-four years, it would be a fairly big upgrade (such as from a 260->660).
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I got EVGA GTX 660. I can tell you. I play ultra on everything. Worth graphic card. But i would prefer GTX 670. Save abit more money and buy a GTX 670. And im not talking b*lsht. I am working with this (Network & Computer).
But if you wanna buy evga gtx 660 go for it. Its really good.
If you got some questions about the graphic card i can answer them :)
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I have the EVGA GTX 660 Superclocked. Its kind of silly to pay nearly $200 for a GTX 670, you only get 30% more frames. The gtx 660 maxes out almost every game at 1080p. The few games it can't, the 670 won't do much better. By the time the gtx 660 is outdated so will the 670.
The superclocked model runs hot. I hit 78c when playing Far Cry 3. Also if you hate the sound of fans moving air then get another model. The EVGA Signature 2 FTW stays extremely cool and quiet.
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I have a 560Ti and can max Sleeping Dogs. Something is wrong with your card bro.
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My old computer used to run games at like 20fps, and I was fine. I really don't understand why people complain.
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For some reason the highest AA(I think) setting halfs the FPS when compared to one level down.
I can max it on a 460 at 1680x1050 with that one thing down to med.
Looks amazing.
Edit: Just realized how old this was...
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I haven't seen many new games out that can't be played on highest of settings on most older cards. If you bought top of the line back then, chances are it still going to be able to handle the games out today. I run every game I own on max settings for a GTX260 just fine. Mind you the card is not your standard GTX260 but a higher end model.
It's like the people who have bought the 6 and 8 core CPU's for gaming only, The games are not really using any of this stuff yet, heck if you listen to game server companies, they are still trying to get game companies to update their games to use more then 2 threads for better processing.
So the way I look at this now, because I used to spend up to $600 every year on a new video card and stopped doing it; is, if you don't need the upgrade, then don't upgrade. Save your money till you end up with games that do need this type of power. i bet their are games out there but if you don't have them, then it's a waste.
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I see you own Sleeping Dogs, good luck running that at max on a 260 (I own one too.) Yeah it's true a lot of games will still run at max on a 260 but it's right on the edge of unplayable for plenty of them, even at lower resolutions than 1080p. The graphically intense games (BF3, Sleeping Dogs, The Witcher 2, etc) you don't have a hope in hell of maxing out on an old card like this.
Buying a new card every year is pretty wasteful, though you can save a lot of money by selling your old one. With the 260 pushing 5 years old though, it's getting to be replacement time.
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Really, I like to know what 260 card you bought, bet it was one below $300 at the time. I don't buy the normal gfx cards. never have and never will because they they don't got the clock rates or the extra memory. I play Sleeping Dogs just fine on high settings and my monitor is 1080p. My GTX260 OC2 by BFG gives me no issues other then running hot enough to peal the stickers off it, 125CM side fan for the case took care of that issue. As for lag issues, I had CPU lag which I fixed by replacing my Dual Core with a Quad Core. Maybe BF3 will cause an issue but after BF2 I have no reason to even try that game.
Like I said, it's all about the type you buy. A gfx card may be the same name and all like 260 , 280, 660 but what they can really do is based on the companies selling them. BFG are known for there tweaking of there cards and adding more to them.
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Damn reading all that with all those fancy new video cards i feel poor with my shitty integrated GF9200 :D
Officaly cant run any new games since 2010 :D
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With all the benchmarks on real games I've seen that statement is just plain wrong. Overall a GTX 660 is always (not in every game, but on average over a lot of current games, no matter if with or without AA or AF) faster than a 7850 and sometimes -- depending on the settings -- almost on par with a 7870. The price performance ratio is slightly better with a 7850, but the 660 is on par with a 7870 there.
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In actual gaming nVidia is by far the leader. Nvidia has long supported and funded game development tools and game companies, therefore the latest games perform better from a two way relationship. AMD might have better pricing, but nVidia has the gaming performance.
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Nvidia worked along side Crysis Development for example, while it's being created. They brought out PhysX, so have the full advance PhysX everyone else just fakes with buggy drivers - aka AMD. They release development tools making it easier to create optimised games for their drivers = less screw ups. AMD has/had framerate problems, latest game driver issues, while Nvidia has better vsync, better drivers/support, better power usage, game performance enhancements in each driver release, etc.
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Real life can't be benchmarked without some overlooks. If you take those cards from AMD and nVidia and test each of them yourself, you will see a difference in not only the performance. Most people will then switch to using nVidia. Plus your talking about a 1%-7% performance difference - yet they don't appear the same quality or have the same particle effects on screen.
Exception maybe is if you play higher than 2560x1600 and overclock your graphics card heavily, AMD starts to outperform most nVidia cards. Also, those that might want to save an extra buck or two.
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This is perfect... i upgraded from EVGA GTX 460 TO EVGA GTX 660, normal version, not superclocked.
And from my own experience you will see like a 60% increase in performance.
I used to run BF3 on 1600 x 900 on medium to high settings and get like 60 fps. With GTX 660 im getting stable 45 to 60 FPS on 1920 x 1080 with ULTRA settings.
You can max out Metro 2033, but you will get shit frame rate, like 30. But im talking about seriously maxing out the game. If you turn the DirectX 11 settings down a bit, you get stable 45 fps.
Games like GTA 4 runs smooth all maxed out on highest resolutions.
You can max out Minesweeper, Solitaire and pinball without frame rate issues.
No seriously is a great card for the price tag.
Reply if you have any doubts... oh also dont get the Superclocked Edition, i dont see the point of paying $20 or $30 additional dollars for a slight overclock. Do it yourself or better yet do not overclock it.
Also try to get a cheaper one on ebay. I got my GTX 660 at $180 bucks on january 1st... good time for bidding.
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I never downloaded it, but i currently run Crysis 2 all settings maxed, no frame rate issues at all. Im guessing Crysis 3 will be more demanding, but im not too worried about it atm, this card will probably be my last GPU upgrade. My next upgrade will probably be getting a new computer, instead of upgrading my 2009 computer.
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I would suggest going with the GTX660Ti or better, a GTX670 or GTX680 is recommended for hardcore gamers - ignore the x90 series.
The way nVidia makes the series is:
4xx, 5xx, 6xx stands for the technology (so your'll be getting up-to-date with the latest DirectX, PhysicX, etc)
For each series:
x50 - or lower is meant for applications only, not designed for gaming more than a casual player /
x60 - average gamer, most will focus around this - Ti is recommended for a better performance /
x70 - good gaming experences for good price /
x80 - great hardcore gaming /
x90 - two x80s glued together in SLI, better fan cooling, but well overpriced for the greedy
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GTX 680 is just bad... not in the way of having bad performance, or performance issues. But because GTX 670 is not too far from getting a GTX 680 performance. So if i were going to buy a High End GPU i would go for a GTX 670, not worth those $150 for additional 5% performance.
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That all depends where you buy it... I got my ASUS nVidia GTX680 2GB for cheap (less than a GTX670) second hand, never used, but only opened display box and I couldn't be happier, it owns all the latest games on ultra settings / high resolutions, plus future proofed. The standard (vanilla) version of the GTX680 is about 7% faster than the overclocked version of the GTX670sc. I perfer the vanilla graphic cards, if I wanted to OCed to 1400mhz it will easily beat any OC version of the 670 - but overclocking isn't even required. You also get some extras with the GTX680, but overall yes I would have to agree the GTX670 might be more worth it in most stores.
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Ive owned a 460, 560TI and now a 670, all last year. At my rez 1680x1050, actual performance gain wasnt that great. Biggest thing was the increased mem and cooling and by connection noise. 10% increase from 460 to 560TI, the 460 had a very heavy OC though. 5-10% increase from 560 to 670. Ive yet to run a game maxed (2x AA) that utilized the full potential of my 670.
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Ha, think I bought my 460 for 180 2 years ago. Sold it around august last year for 140. Picked up a 560TI on sale for about 125, then quickly sold it a month later for 160-170. Then I picked up my MSI Twin Frozn 670 for 375, after rebate and selling the game coupons, it was 305. Think I did pretty well. Other then Metro fully maxed (23fps lower score in benchmark), Stalker CS (complete mod) fully maxed, with godrays dips to 8fps in the sky camp in the morning while in a heavy shadowed corner. Other then those, I need to use Vsync or cap my fps at 60 to prevent tearing.
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7870 currently has best price/performance ratio. + the 7800s get a free Bioshock Infinite and Tomb Raider steam keys.
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Just speaking personally, I don't think AMD's drivers are anywhere near the quality of Nvidia's, much less the 3rd party tools available. Until someone writes (and maintains) an AMD equivalent to Nvidia Inspector there's no way I'll buy an AMD card again. I'm relatively hard to please in that regard though, so I'm sure most people don't care.
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I'm using 660Ti. Ultra settings in almost all new games
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9800 GT, I have. GTX 460 is one of the best graphics cards ever made, does not overheat, Fermi, and if overclocked it equals a GTX 560. I'd love to upgrade to a GTX 460 but its soldout and the ones left are overpriced. Anyways I don't need to upgrade since I mostly play TF2 and L4D. Will upgrade when source engine 2 comes out to a GTX 750 Ti or GTX 850.
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Yeah I'm using a 9800 GTX+ still
I'll upgrade when it can't run the games I want to play anymore :D
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Overclocked the shit out of my old 460, 60% oc or so. When I got my ASUS 560TI, I didnt notice much of an improvement. Even with my MSI Twin Frozn 670 I dont notice that big of a jump from the heavily oc'ed 460. The added memory is the biggest thing.
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Just finished a build for my sister using the Gigabyte GTX660 today. She hasn't played a ton of games but could max out ME3 and The Witcher 2 so far.
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I have an EVGA 660Ti 3GB SC edition. It's an excellent card for it's price, and I assume the 2GB edition is just as good. You can just about play every game on full settings with decent frames. Haven't come across any issues yet with it, runs very quietly as well.
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GTX 670 is a better buy than a GTX 660 or GTX 660 Ti. The GTX 670 is 256 bit, performs close to a GTX 680 and cost a lot less than a GTX 680
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Well, I'm stil on a GTX260, could play most games maxed out...
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currently using nvidia geforce gtx 660 ti and can run most games on maxed settings
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Lifecycles for graphics cards have gotten a lot longer. This card was 130 USD in 2009, GTS 250 = GTS 450 = GTX 650 for 100 USD in 2012. After 3 years the price of graphics cards dropped only 23 percent or 8 percent a year.
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I have one. AMAZING card for the price. I read some bad stuff about the SC edition, mainly about the GK106 not being too OC friendly (I even cancelled my purchase and went for the regular one, just in case).
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I'm hoping to buy EVGA GTX660 SC 2GB. anyone using this card? if so what are ur toughts?
currently i'm using gtx460.
this the card
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