Would you date me?
GIVEAWAYS
1st Starter Giveaway Pirating Away Someones Heart [Ended]
Good Convo 1 Paranautical Conversations [Ended]
Good Convo 2 Miracles Talk [Ended]
Good Convo 3 Duel of Minds [Ended]
Good Convo 4 A lovely convo [Ended]
Good Convo 5 Looty Conversation [Ended]
1st Date #1 Nightmare Date + Mayhem [Ended]
Good Convo 6 Not a Naissance
Good Convo 7 Muffin Wrong
Good Convo 8 Motor the date
Good Convo 9 Moonlit Desires
Good Convo 10 Lucid Dreams
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1st Date #1 (NO GO)
This won't be that interesting because it was a bit of a catfish. She posted 10 year old pictures. She didn't look like her pictures much at all really. This has happened before though but I still give people a chance and went along with the date after picking her up.
Right off the bat she was pretty controlling of everything. I get a girl wanting to take control at times but this was really overboard. She kind of rushed us into having a date as well, we ended up eating at 930 on a Sunday night when everything else is closed. I still tried to give her the benefit of the doubt and we went to my place to watch a movie after.
She put up red flag after red flag with things she said, she got way too attached way too fast and I don't respond to her texts right away she kind of freaks out. This was not a good first date. I'll have to see how my other ones go, but this girl is a no go for me.
I need to figure out a way to let her know I'm not interested anymore. This is hard because I'm the one usually being told these things.
Now I don't really consider myself shallow but I do find myself attracted to certain characteristics in the other sex. I did not find her attractive at all. I need to figure out a better way of dealing with these things. I feel like if I do the give them a chance thing and I find their personality lacking as well that it makes this whole process a lot harder.
What to do what to do...
Side Note
She lived 35 min from me. I spent 2 hours driving for her as well because she had no car. I didn't mind too much but after I look back on it, that was a lot of driving for a failed date.
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It's good that you know what you like and what you don't like. Yeah those are some pretty big red flags-the dishonesty with the photos first and foremost. Awesome that you're getting a lot of replies relative to the messages you send out! I've heard horror stories from friends that they only get like 1% replies back.
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I've constructed a message that most girls, when they do reply, say they haven't received anything like it before. I talk about them and what I like about their profile then I tell a story that happened to me when I was 16. It's a funny story and they usually ask me what else happened. I'm usually pretty decent at weaving a story, or at least it seems that way with my replies.
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Be gentle, but clear, about not wanting to pursue the relationship further. And avoid pointing fingers. It's easier to swallow for the other party if you tell them that for you the relationship isn't working and that you don't feel like you're a good match or see it lasting long term.
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Ah.. can I make a small suggestion for the future?
I wouldn't bring someone over to my place on the first date...
Some people can misconstrue your intentions, even if you're just watching a movie/tv. Also, you might not see how crazy they are until later. :)
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I have a VERY promising date lined up for this Saturday. I will spill the beans after the date. We have connected pretty well through messaging. I also "screened" her by adding her to snap chat so that I know she looks like her pictures this time around. We BOTH can't wait for the date.
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Find an excuse to take her hand for a bit when you're sitting in front of her! Hopefully she has super cool nailp olish, or a magic mood ring or something interesting going on there >:D
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Do you know what she's from? She's pretty cute. :3
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If you don't want people to see you as cheap Chinese food, don't package yourself in a white, cardboard, to-go box. That sounds flippant, but it's actually sincere advice. If you want to be considered seriously for a potential, long-term relationship, you need to -present yourself as a serious, potential, long-term kind of guy. That doesn't mean walking around asking women to marry you. It does mean being the kind of man a woman would want to marry. That is the reason why widowers from previously happy marriages are "chick magnets." They are already "the real deal," and it shows.
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I know, but most people don't think about how they present themselves, hence my response. I prefer my responses to be worth reading. )
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Here are my suggestions for improvements.
Better pictures. First one has alright distance and mood but the clothing isn't working. Second is too far away from you but otherwise nice shot. Third one feels really out of place. You are dating, not waging war. Redo first and third. Add closeup shot from your face and another one that shows you in casual clothing with a full body shot. Have a genuine nice smile in at least one.
First bigger paragraph has a bit negative tone. It emphasizes what you used to do and no longer can't. Firefighting sounds interesting. Why not tell more about it? Why do you want to be a firefighter?
Second paragraph lists your interests in a bit too monotonic way. I do A. I do B. I do C. Expand those a bit. Tell what you feel when you go outdoors or camping. What aspects of it feel good?
Third paragraph is alright.
Here is how I would write your story in my own words. It is not meant to taken as it is. Just an example.
"Hello!
I'm a 29 year old man, 5'11" and looking for a partner. Previous army helicopter pilot that is training to become a firefighter. I have strong sense of helping others and do not shy when things need to be worked on. I also have some background in media arts and animation. At the moment I work as EMT, Uber driver and with some smaller additional computer jobs along the line.
I love going outdoors. Camping, hiking and just feeling the wind and sun on your skin feels great! It would be nice to get company that enjoys what nature has to offer. City life has also its good points and I can easily enjoy events of the town like going to a movie, having some drinks and so on. I can also cherish calmer moments like a night with a book.
I am looking for true connection with another person. Something bigger than single human life which lasts hopefully for the rest of my life. Relationship is something I can commit to, giving it all my heart and soul. One thing I consider important, and a foundation, to any good relationship is communication. The ability to listen and as well to show your feelings. I am kinda outgoing person and you can easily read how I feel. We each have our flaws and I am not looking for perfect person but a loving and a caring woman. Someone who understands that supporting the ones you love and care about is where we show our strength."
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While this is very well written and sums up Nazty's post quite well, I gotta say that I, as a female, enjoyed reading the original post much more, because it sounded very authentic and showed his personality, rather than advertising the guy in the best possible manner.
Agreed on the pictures tho.
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I understand your point well and it is something I dislike in dating scene. I personally wish that people could be just more straight and authentic instead of plastic Barbie/Ken dolls. Unfortunately, my personal experiences and experiences of others seems to indicate that world doesn't just work like that. Hence my more "going with the flow" approach. My tip is to polish the profile (it is meant to gather attention) and show more personality and authencity through messages/discussion.
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I second what @eeev wrote. I'd go even further - if I read the edited version, I'd probably think "meh, boring", and move on to look for another guy, looking in a less typical manner. The original post not only felt way more authentic and showed his personality, it felt non-forced, laid back and very welcoming, while showing him as a real human being, with his hopes, dreams, imperfections and something heartwarming to it. And that human being is what I'd much prefer over a flawless commercial guy with that pearly smile glued to his face.
And yeah, I agree about the pictures, too. A smile on a kind face can make a huge difference :)
Which is why while @tubberware's approach might work in many cases, I think this one is different. Fox is already quite experienced when it comes to relationships and knows what he wants - a life mate who'll love him dearly as he is - which is kind of rare in online dating (unless it's just sex), usually people are looking for "something", a casual relation, to see where it goes. And so he wants to attract likely-minded women first. Which is why the edited example, while getting him more attention overally, might not get him the kind of attention he wants - while possibly making the best fitting matches skip his profile, thinking it feels fake or shallow, and not writing him at all, which would make it impossible for him to show more personality in messages in the first place. After all, the first impression still matters a lot, even online.
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Thanks for the support on the post. I did turn some of the bad into more of a positive while leaving the bad there still. I always move forward because that is all I can do and I want people to know that.
All the criticism helps and I'll take it all my own way and make changes I think will help.
If I succeed you guys all get a chance at some good games! lol
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As I said to eeev, I understand that point. Still, I disagree with it. Online dating becomes easily a number game. The more people you attract, the more likely it is that you find the one that you are looking for. If one has very specific idea of partner or is a member of very specific niche (simplified example would be a goth looking for another goth), I consider generally good to follow the generic flow. Same with pictures. Taking silly picture will show your personality more but clear majority seem to want those boring laid-back-smile-like-model-ones. I could go on with this topic (as it interests me) but I am offrailing hard enough already.
Couple more point to add. I cannot write someone else's profile (unless I know them very well myself) so of course you lose personality in my example. Another thing is the language barrier which I felt when writing the example. Quite many things were hard to express outside of my native language so with "limited time" I was restricted to use more simplified and not-so-personal expressions.
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Third one feels really out of place. You are dating, not waging war.
Uniforms are sexy though ;) But yeah, the picture could do without the helmet and the gun.
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The lighting could be better though, so I wouldn't use that one. I would take tips from the most messaged woman on OKC. You need good lighting for your photos. When I look through your photos, I wonder if you have any friends. Can you select a photo of you at a gathering, and crop most of them out? Like at a backyard barbeque or something. It signals that you have a minimum level of social skills/normal person.
The second picture is ok, but I would crop it so it has more focus on you. Otherwise you're kind of lost in everything.
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I'll keep that in mind and maybe tweak a few small thing. I'm trying to keep it more real and bring out more of my personality. I could possibly change a few things here and there. I also have a few other pictures I did not include that I have posted now on the website.
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Aye, it is important that the text is written by you. Hence my note not to take my example literally. It is your profile and should reflect you as a person. Sometimes smaller details can make the larger picture different than how we personally perceive it. Hence it is good for others the check out and give tips. But ultimately it is you who decides what is good and what is not so you are doing the right thing here.
Is this your first time trying online dating services?
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Roger. If you would have been trying it first time, I could have mentioned things to expect in online dating but I am sure you are well aware of them by now. Four in couple months is quite good pace. In the end, it is a bit of a number game. You meet new people, have fun and if things click just right, it might become something lasting.
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Ya online is always weird on the first date so I just do all the talking and the girl usually get comfortable and then it turns into a good thing. I have a lot of experience between business, customer service, and EMS. Talking about the other person more than yourself is always a good approach if you aren't being creepy about it.
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I edited the original post but still kept it more real. I'm not looking to paint myself as someone I'm not either just straight who I am. I removed some of the negative vibes coming from the post but some of life sucks and that's what I've been through so I won't remove that but will put in the fact that I have moved on.
Also: They have status listed and I put divorced so figured Id put in a reason why that is so.
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No as I believe that you should write your own profile. I do not know you as well as you know yourself and the profile should reflect you as a person (check my reply above to NastyFox). But I can check your profile and give my impression if you wish.
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I might hold you to that as I'm terrible at writing. Unfortunately still the first people see from you. Have to translate it first and prefer to send it in PM. You had a few very good points on NastyFox so very curious to see your opinion on mine.
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'. It is also nice to stay in, watch some netflix or read a book. '
you mean netflix and chill?
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I have/had a couple of single male friends who have been dating with the use of an internet service.
They have mixed experiences. Some dates were great, some were horrible.
One guy who had been single for 38 years found a girl through the app Tinder. One friend has been furiously dating for 10 years now without any success. Its a hit and miss but its worth to check it out.
Btw, they turned to internet dating because most of our group of friends were getting married and didnt go out much anymore. But going out is imo the best way to meet a girl.
Ontopic: About your profile. Just be honest and post realistic pics. (And women always want to know your opinion on starting a family ;) . Not sure you'd want to put that on your profile, but its something to think about) .
The older you get, the more chance of dates with divorced women btw. Women with a history, kids, etc. Let them know early if youre up for that.
Good luck
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Try the Meetup site. It's nice to hang out with people who like to do the same type of stuff and there is no weirdness because it is not a dating setting. You just head out with a bunch of people and do something you all like. People do end up talking and who knows you might go beyond that.
Bars suck for picking someone up. Most people are there for one thing only.
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You go to the website, search groups doing things you like to do and join. People in the group set up places and dates and you RSVP to go. Make sure you go if you RSVP because they will kick you after a few missed times usually.
I did it recently with some gamer meetup and a hiking meet up. You meet some cool people and have some fun.
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The first picture is horrible :-)
With the third picture you may impress male but not female :-)
I think the best natural way to meet girls is to find a sport group with mixed teams
or go for dancing lessons (there I found my gf).
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Dancing is very good option but mostly if you are interested in it yourself. Otherwise it becomes creepy quite fast. Pretty much any activity that includes people from opposite sex is good for meeting new people (and possible date candidates).
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It really depends on your environment whether it is better to "go out". And since the person is already at the point of internet dating, I think the chances of just going out and finding someone is very minimal.
That being said internet isnt bad place to find someone. Unlike a decade ago, now everyone uses internet to some degree. Specially younger generation. Thats why Tinder is a big hit instead of these serious dating apps.
In previous days many would say that you can't expect much online. No perfect roses. I mean the girls are searching online for a reason too. But these days I think you can find literally any type of people online.
Competition is still tough the hotter the girl. That applies everywhere though so not just an internet thing.
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You forgot the most important thing to mention in a dating profile.
MONEY. How much you make ? If you make six figure salary in a year, women will chase you left and right. That's the harsh reality.
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No, i don't date guys.who do you think i am! i go straight to sex
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I may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a communist, but Sir i am not a moron!
No, i mean i don't get into relations or go out on dates
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Pretty romantic writing must I say, like you I would rather not list the "divorced history" and just elaborate on that when I'm actually dating someone after some time; the dating profile is just your invitation card for getting someone interested, no need to start showing the messy parts of our lives at that point, better to build some trust before letting in the (very) personal details.
But what the heck, it's good that you're willing to take a chance, just keep your expectations at bay and be surprised (hopefully pleasantly surprised).
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I would explain the divorce part only if she brings that up on the first date, maybe mention it on the 2nd or 3rd date hahaha you might list some of your dating ideas (dinner, movie, drinking, dancing, hiking, sports... whatever you like) to see if a girl relates to those activities too :D
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My preferred poll option isn't avail, so here you are.
Yes, I would, if I wasn't gay. (I'm female.)
Well, I'd give you a first date anyway. You could have nasty hygiene or emotional problems or you could just be mean, but there's enough there to give you a first shot.
Be yourself, be kind, and be genuine. Put yourself out there and you're bound to find someone. Good luck! :D
PS: Really sorry to hear how the divorce went down. :(
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Didn't add the other gay side of it, my bad. I just made a quick poll for laughs anyways. Thanks for the Yes though :)
I'm a clean cut guy with my head on my shoulders and I'm told I'm a nice guy. I'm always myself because its hard work not being myself lol.
Thanks on the sympathies but thats just life and not everyone gets it good.
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Well, POF likes to limit your messages to 50 per 24 hours. I'll just have to see how these first 50 pan out before I deliver more. I figured if I just send out a bunch of messages (Obviously heartfelt and attention to detail from each girls profile) that I would have a better reply ratio and thus a better chance at landing an actual date. Lets see how it all goes. I've had some nice messages in response and nothing nasty so far so thats good. Only a few ignored me but that's how it is (POF lets you know if your message was read/deleted if you upgrade)
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well, firefighters are hot. your description seems interesting but if I were you I'd probably delete the section about divorce and your wife cheating on you, that's really personal stuff, something to discuss as the relationship progresses. anyway, I'd go out with you. good luck :)
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I feel like if I hide it at the start that it is lying in a way. I want to start it off completely honest and open because if I'm willing to hide that what else would the other person think I might want to hide? Its a tough decision but for now I have it up.
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Good luck sweetheart:)
I work as a dating coach and have been working with people's profiles like dating, facebook, instagram, etc a bit more lately, as they are now so important.
I think you're good looking <3. I like the name you picked, too. That you're a US Army veteran that flew copters and that you're going to become a firefighter is awesome. Exciting lives breed exciting results, and it's something that you can't fake. Your life shapes who you are ~ and you've got a pretty fun one it seems.
I like it and wish you luck.
A few things I noticed:
Your photos are too much of the same.
1 is great
2 shows you with a friend so good
3 is decent
4 is uh... meh
5 is good
6 would be good but I don't like it because of your body language. It's closed off. You can google 'handsome men in suits' (LMAO) or whatever to view appropriate body languages while wearing suits. I just felt like this one was closed and protecting your crotch, or something
7- uh... nah lol. I mean. There's a study that says that the closer someone takes a selfie to his face with nothing else around, the less trustworthy he seems. I don't really know whether that's true or not, I'm still doing experiments on it for my work. What's interesting about this theory is that it works opposite for females. A girl taking close selfies alone seems more... alone, and more... vulnerable, approachable, endearing, to people. But yeah(;
8- A bike! Awesome!
9- Travelling to places = good
10- Nah it's random and you already got other stuff similar going on
You can try to use photos with you in social situations, or around female friends, or travelling, to pack the most punch. Photos give a glimpse of your life, but you don't want them all the same.
Anyway... some other things.
'I use to fly copters' --> It's 'used', just a typo but those are important when you present yourself.
It's cool you're looking for a real connection, and I guess it means a lot to you, so leaving it on your profile is fine. Be careful when you date or talk to women to dial it down a bit, and not put too much pressure on her.
You talk very negatively about your ex. Understandably so, because cheating is very wrong. But you don't want to sound TOO negative or bitter about it. It's all in the wording, really. Something called NLP, if you're interested, that explains that you can use two different ways of saying the exact same thing to get two completely different results.
Example:
I hate lazy people
I love hard working people
Well, 'hate' is a negative word associated with negative people. Love is a positive word, so you seem like a great, positive person... even though you said the same thing.
Well, in that same thought, 'cheated on me' is a bit harsh. She deserves it, but you need to think of yourself now, and 'was unfaithful' shows the same message, in a less hateful way, I guess.
The sentence right after seems to repeat how she wronged you. I don't know about that. Something like:
"It takes two people to make a relationship work and grow, but you must also know when it's time to move on and build something else beautiful" or something like that would put more emphasis on you moving on than you thinking back on the ex. Don't want to dwell too much on ex talk in a public profile.
As for the paragraph about the first date, I would go for 'I will do this, I will do that.' Rather than 'I will try to do this, I try to do that'. You're not a tryer. You're a US Army Veteran. YOURE A DOER BABY.
.. >ahem<, that being said, I think that whoever dates you is a very lucky woman, and I think your profile was great! I just like to nitpick on details, because it's my job.
I've never used POF before. I'm personally on Fetlife, but maybe I'm just more kinky >smirks<
I wish you loads of lucky >:)
Sincerely,
Marie Bee, the self-proclaimed #1 dating coach in the Universe
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Woah, maybe Lady Santa brings you someone special the coming Christmas holidays ;>... shoulda team up with Hitch ;P. Good luck to you, never been one for internet profitz™ with the ladies, but don't try to force yourself into something just for the heck of it, just remember that somewhere someone is waiting for you - the right mindset is #1.
Sorry, couldn't resist ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snw-MWOwRh0
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Last Christmas, I gave you my hearttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
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Thanks a lot for the nitpicking. Every little bit helps and again, while this helps me, it also means better giveaways for other people as well lol.
It's good you pointed out the typo. Dating profile entries become my first draft until I start catching the typos myself. I'm glad you found one I missed and I'm sure there might be a few more somewhere else or that I create later. I believe a well written profile is a first start.
I reworded the divorce portion to make it seem less negative. I try not to talk about my ex negatively anyways. It is just different online with the way this darn English works and having no facial expressions or body language. Online dating is hard in that way.
I have people saying to leave in the divorce portion and others saying to take it out. I feel I should leave it in because before when I left it out it was always a first date with some baggage to explain which I thought took away from the date a little itself. The women I dated didn't mind at the time but I was always nervous to that point. I want to be honest up front with some background to it.
I feel most people that see divorce think failure or whats wrong with this guy? I'm hoping to clear that problem up and have a normal non-nervous date for once. I don't see myself as a failure, just someone dealt a bad hand, its getting others to see it that way as well that seems to be the challenge.
Fetlife sounds like an interesting site. I've been interested in the more kinky side of things before. It definitely sounds like it could be fun. I've never tried BDSM or any of the more exotic stuff but it has always interested me to a point.
I'll have to comb through som pictures and find something decent too replace the others. I don't take a lot of pictures so it is never easy for me with this portion.
I appreciate the help and positive vibes from you. If you want to throw any other advice my way feel free to do so any time. Good luck with your coaching and all that other good stuff.
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Yayy ^_^
I think you're cool and handsome and intelligent and most of all open minded so whatever woman will be lucky.
Maybe we'll be FL friends >smirks<
Good luckkk
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Good luck with online dating, I found it can be a lot more harsh then actual dating, yes the real world dating scene is tough and people most anyway seem to think they are too good for you, but I noticed, even online the exact same thing exists, they don't even have to see a picture of you just a short conversation and I've seen people just say oh your not good enough or I can do better.... Dating has honestly changed a lot and especially for guys become extremely difficult. I wish you the best though and all you can do is try and do the best you can do.
Best of luck to you,
PV
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Online is alot harsher because without the face to face interaction, people don't have to pretend that they are nice :P
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It's all about how you approach it. One thing for sure is that you can't just send one message. I spent a few hours sending 50 messages last night. I now have 4 replies sitting in my inbox and 3 conversations going. Be meaningful, be true, be thoughtful, but most of all be persistent. When I say persistent, don't pester the same girl over and over, move on to other prospects. Eventually someone responds.
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Yea I did it for awhile I had misses and hits and even still I can say I would much prefer real life dating just because you can immediately see the kind of person they are instead of talking to someone who might not be who they say they are.
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Yea its easier but not as quick, if it by chance doesn't work out, I would suggest maybe trying to get out hit up a bar, or hell a grocery store, I've met people there too..
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So I figured I'd come out and and say it. I'm single.
This got me to thinking, am I dateable? It beats the hell out of me. I might as well ask the question because you know that random internet forums and polls are definitely the perfect place to do this right? I figured you guys could help craft my online dating profile and I could the post it to a few websites and then constantly update this thread with my dating experiences. If it turns out to be a good experience, maybe give away a AAA game. If its a bad experience I'll dump a bunch of bundles keys in despair.
I trust random people to tell me the truth so ya here it goes.
I guess I should tell a little about myself and include some pictures right?
Well here is my heart felt thinking spilt in the wrong place on the internet.
EDIT 2
Now that I have a website with parameters I retooled it with a few tweaks from some previous posts. Lets see how this works. I figured I should put some info on the divorced part. I feel like I should include the divorced because it is a status listed under the parameters. I feel like I'm lying if I list single. I can always list single then just explain face to face on the first date. Let me know what sounds best to do.
I decided to try POF and here is the profile link (If link doesnt work without an account let me know and I'll screenshot it or something.) now instead of having it posted here. Tell me your thoughts and lets tweak this people. Remember, if we get some good things going I'll be giving out some good games. If nothing comes of a date then at least some bundle games.
Good Online Convo (1 per Person) = Simple Bundle GA
1 Physical Date = Multiple Bundle Giveaways
2+ Physical Dates (for at least 2 Weeks) = AAA Title Giveaway
Something that Magically lasts = Multiple AAA Title Giveaways
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