Should it?
Release date: November 23, 2004. That's quite impressive actually.
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ffxi's still kicking as well, it's got 2 years on WoW.
Initial release date: May 16, 2002
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FF XI still has 400k Active Users which is pretty amazing.
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Haven't played FFXI for a few months.. but I still pay the monthly sub fee for it, haha.
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Hell, Everquest is still online and they're releasing their 22nd expansion.
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I played the original EQ from about 2000-2006, so I'm kind of torn on any more Evequest ever. Part of me would find it interesting to run around Norrath again.
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I don't know if you ever saw Project 1999, but it's good stuff, my friend and I played on it a few times for funsies, had some good fun
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I was still playing FFXI 2 months ago. :3 I honestly think it's better than the likes of GW2 or even FFXIV. D:
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I miss the early days of ffxi. I got burnt out sometime mid way through Seekers of Adoulin, when all the gear started getting TONS of stats blasted all over it (to the point where they had to add a feature to scroll the infobox). Credit where credit is due though, I played ffxi for ages. WoW got maybe a year, maybe two? FFXIV I just recently stopped because I ran out of things to do. Though after stopping FFXIV last month... I'm kind of liking the idea of just not being chained down to an mmo, so there's a chance I might not go back.
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Indeed. The early days of any MMO are always the best. At least in my experience. ;c
Unlike you though, I'm still waiting for an MMO I can put my time into again. D:
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Oh my gosh! Other people actually play FFXI \o/!!
Nothing will ever top FFXI :v.
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I've played a decent bit of FFXI, but I've not made it very far, I feel as though my server choice was poor, it seems to be rather inactive, I very rarely see anyone or find anyone to play with. I believe I made it to Lv 65 and pretty much stopped, although I enjoy it so I do go back occasionally. I'm on Bahamut if you're curious, and it sadly is pretty dead there.
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I think they're all pretty dead now adays. Especially in anything pre-endgame.
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Hmmm. Even with end game, I thought I would see more linkshells or even people in a city. I saw about 15 people over the course of 3 months, including the people in my linkshell.
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I was so excited to get that like 8 years ago, but the person that gave it to me (got it from a thrift shop) didn't know it was p2p. I installed it...and that was it.
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Pssst! Ultima Online, release date: 24 September 1997
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Loved Ultima online, played on a unofficial server for years :3
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I loved Ultima Online. My best memory from that game was battling against a PK guild with the rest of the players in one of the dungeons ( I do not remember which one). It was brutal, but it was fun.
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There's still thousands of players for Warcraft III, which released 2 years earlier ^_^
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Doesn't it still have like 8million subs? Thats a lot of money to throw away...
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They get alot of money from other games (i.e. Diablo.)
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They really don't lol. 15$ a month, 5 million people. How are you going to compare that to D3 or SC2? Those games don't provide a profit anymore until xpacs are released. SC2 is dead and I doubt it'll sell many copies (expansion). And D3 (reaper of souls I believe?), even if it sold 1 million copies at 40$, thats what WoW would make in 1 month.
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Cross promotions. There was recently a promotion where playing Diablo 3 could earn you mounts/heroes in Heroes of the Storm and that brought a slew of HotS players into Diablo 3 for the first time. Quite a few of those would have been the type that put money into HotS as well and not just casual free players.
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I doubt it. Where does it say that it brought players into Diablo 3 for the first time? Most gamers who play Blizzard games already have Diablo 3.
And even if it were true, you're trying to tell me that that this is on par with what WoW makes? 3million subs in US alone for WoW. Diablo 3 would have to sell 2.25 million copies to match what WoW brings in a month. I doubt theres 2.25 million players in HOTS.
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The players themselves said it when posting on reddit and such looking for advice. This is just one example of the cross promotion. I wasn't claiming it matched WoW, I was pointing out that Diablo 3 still brings in money out ised of expansion releases.
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8 million: maybe million real players in US, 250 thousand in Europe and 6,750 M pre-paid bots from Asia.
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Does it really matter? My point is they're still making money. arnolke says its 5m, maybe 3-4m. I'm not talking about players, I'm talking about subscriptions. 5million accounts paying 15$ a month, no one in their right mind would give that up.
If you want to get to the player base, well who knows how many real players there are. When I played, I had 2 accounts, 1 horde and 1 alliance on the same server. Yes theres botters, or was when I played, farming gold or leveling characters.
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nope its latest was around 5m, prob down to 3-4m now
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I stand corrected. Just going off memory from reading articles.
E: Last article says 7.1m subs, back in May. Probably because the new xpac sucked.
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Yes, there are still that many idiots that pay... I meant play the game.
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Free or paid, I am not playing it again.
I see "The Burning Crusade" as the high point in WoW and it has went downhill ever since.
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If the newest expansion went down to a $10 price drop and it was somewhere in the 12 dollars to play a month. I might pick it up for a bit. I don't think I'd like it to be set up like the other F2P's. I like to be able to pay a fee and have all included, just not the fee it's at currently. I didn't have a great experience with the community the last time I played. Everyone wants more people to play, but yet they seemed pretty impatient with anyone not in the top tiers. I didn't know all the boss fights and even though I read up on them, I messed up on a few. I need to actually do something to get it right. After I went at it a few times, I got the hang of it and everything was great, but by then I was pretty glum from messing up.
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All they need is a couple of servers that run old versions of the game dedicated to Vanilla, Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King. With that I think a lot of people would resub for a little bit more.
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The idea has been around for ages. WoW players have asked for it basically since the first expansion.
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It is a cool idea indeed. Blizzard always said no on the grounds that not only would they need separate servers for every expansion but then people would complain that it wasn't the specific patch within that expansion that they wanted, which is a valid point to be fair.
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Should go F2P since they are losing Subs very very fast.
Look at GW2, it went F2P because they were losing Active Players.
FFXIV amazing is still having a Stong Sub based Activity Players just like FFXI despite that has lower numbers but still sting enough for Subs payment.
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I think that IF WOW will ever go F2P that will mean this is end of it and last try to save it.
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Free to play means lower quality content. You get what you pay for.
Whether WoW has good content lately or past a certain expansion is a subjective topic.
But like stated earlier int his topic, Blizzard would be crazy to give up the amount of money they bring in monthly. Even if the game only had 500,000 subscribers, that's still $7,500,000 per month.
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Me too, but sadly I don't think SP games are very profitable for big companies such as Blizzard anymore.
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SP mean singleplayer - from when MULTILPLAYER Online Battle Arena is singleplayer?
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Undac said: "Me too, but sadly I don't think SP games are very profitable for big companies such as Blizzard anymore."
You answered: "Nope, MOBAs are..."
Undac said that that SP games are not very profitable now and you denied that by nope and as a exapmle gave MOBAs. This is at least how I understood that.
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Well, I still learning English but as every person who learn language I learn rather literary language.
Sometimes little problem are different forms - for example in English there is not such thing like double negation, furthermore in my language that double negation can be negation or confirmation ^^
Going back to my misunderstanding - I would probably said something like that: you are right, but mobas are which is why more and more of them are popping up.
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Played WoW for two or three months when Blizz gave me the game and exps. up to Pandaria for free and I have quite enjoyed it actually, just not enough to pay 45 euros for the new expansions, and playing on after reaching the max level set for Pandaria seemed pointless, since anything I would have gotten myself would be crap when I actually got the exp.
I will probably pick up the new exp. when it will be available for around 15 euros at most (so probably by the time the next expansion comes out as well) and spend another couple of months (or probably less since I won't be leveling from 0) in the game just to realize I am not willing to pay full price for the new exp. anyways.
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There's still a lots of players, but you don't see them because latest expansion focused on "single-player mode", so instead of meeting and raiding, people just say hello in chat and go click their garrisons around for a hour or two and go out.
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Played until a couple of months ago, love the fact that you can now pay with money earned in the game instead of real money :)
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Well its basically buy to pay now (because you can get subscription from gold, thats how i pay for it since i don't have a job :( )
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It shouldn't go F2P and it probably won't for years to come. Maybe they'll figure out a way to make it more affordable. But they just brought out the "token", which is basically game-time for in-game gold. What more could you ask for if you're spending hundreds of hours a month on the game? You basically play for free.
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Yes why? Blizzard ruined just epic WoW and should consider make it F2P.
Otherwise, they got now more $$$ from those who buy skins in HOTS.
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I played WoW for a while on Blitzzard's servers then switched to private servers and played there for years. Absolutely no point in subscribing.
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Also wow never should be free to play, because even when it has some serious discount, so many retards buy it, they will give you hell in dungeon finder :'(
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Why are the graphics so shitty? why in the world would you pay 15$/month, you've already paid 60$(?) for the base game? Questions, questions...
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Whoever spends that kind of money knows what they are getting themselves in. Also graphics doesn't matter.
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I've paid some months (years ago). Despite I know think WoW its a shitty game now I can't say that I am sorry. It was a good game, and you pay monthly for a lot of content, patches and new items, quests and shit. Then everything went all monetized and shitty. I recommend not to play this game now.
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I dont care anymore whatever road it takes, WOW will never be the same, i was happy to pay my subscription back then because was fun and amazing experience, now and after some changes (check cataclysm) lost interest, i loved questing in the old Azeroth, was kind of relaxing and special for me (also side events with Horde-Alliance) now its a hand to hand questgrind.
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I don't know, but it feels like no one is playing it anymore.
Edit: do you still play it?
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