https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=931DxxWX5eg
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yuck rum
real pirates drank wine (the kind that is already bad)
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This is the best answer anyone could give. I never understood those "why" type of questions. Because we have free will and we can do whatever the hell we want, that's why :D
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People make GAs the way they want them to.
If you want to see more short-running ones, create some yourself...
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nothing is stopping you from making those giveaways either :P
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Where are your giveaways?
My prediction:
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I also prefer creating fast giveaways, but as for the others, the duration of their giveaways is their choice. :P
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so many people that give nothing back, where are the loved contributors? 💖
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90% of my public GAs are flash 1hr long. though you wouldn't see them, they're all set at higher levels also.
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Why not create them yourself? You"ve not given anything yourself (not even the "cheap" ones you complain about). In my opinion you're in no position to complain...
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Even IF someone would give you money, I don't think you would use them to create giveaways..
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There are plenty of $1 bundles. I just don't believe that you never have money for that. If that was the case then you wouldn't have 80+ games...
Also, this may be considered begging by some people (not by me, but you're really playing on the border there), I'd advise you to be carefull with that kind of comments...
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And where are your giveaways? U already took enough games, no?
what i dont like on this site? Leechers are allowed
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Most of bundles is $1 for 3 games... its much?
classic excuse of all leechers... i dont have money, but leeching is okay. Thats why i never create 0 lvl giveaway.
No personal attack on you, but its not serious excuse for me. Keep leeching game. Bump
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Why complain about "leechers" Plenty of people just don't have the money. If you don't want them getting your giveaways just make them level only, it's really that easy.
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I saw in past so many peoples who talking about "i dont have money" then i checked Steam... csgo skins, 500 games on account... but no money? If someone is poor, why he have useless skins? I know not all are same, this guy can be rlly poor.
There are leechers: omg i want all for me, give me, give me (not must be poor)
then some poor guys for real, but rlly poor are like 10% and just greedy is 90% of them...
its not possible consider each person separated, leecher is leecher, i dont mind about reason.
sry my eng isnt well, i hope i said correctly what i mean... also its not like offensive thing, just wanted to say my point of view, not attack on someone
and yes if i creating giveaway i do it only with level... if i want give game to someone, i want give my game to some nice person, not someone who already took XY games and give nothing
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My point is, if it bothers you, it's completely avoidable, just use leveled giveaways lol
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Its not only about MY giveaways, why u are so addicted on it? I mean it at all.. for all. Not only about ME and my giveaways.
I said i dont like this acting "give me, give me" around whole site. If u are ok with leeching its okay, your point, iam not ok with leeching and seems bad and greedy for me. Its all, wont continue in this anymore here. If u are able support games to someone who alrady took XY titles and give nothing, its okay.
Iam not rich, not poor... so i have classic point of view of normal. This guy own PC, have access to internet, 80 games, its not THAT poor guy by me. $1 for 3 games is lot?
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Because only your giveaways are under your control. Plenty of people are fine with just giving to people just to give, and not expecting anything in return. I exclusively do leveled giveaways personally, not because I don't want those who haven't given to have them, but because I want those who do give to be rewarded more, but I have no problem with others receiving gifts. Why should you care?
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Idk if I understand well and also idk if my text is well but i care coz i rather give game (if) to someone nice (read as how can happines also with other by sending some gift aswell) than to someone who only leeching for himself and nothing more.
Your point is yours, my point is mine. Different point of view, if u want give games to them, sure give, no problem. But i dont want support these members. And am dont with this thread. End. Thanks.
Iam not good on long eng. text, or to explain something like i want in my language, so u maybe not understand what i mean... but i think u got my point. Also please read my reply to second guy under... i said what i wanted i mean, effort or totall ignorance from them. Its about i talking.
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It can be. Right now, after all utility's are paid i have 60euro left for food and everything else like medication and so on, per month. About 2 euro a day. My mother and father are dead and i have no family left. Believe me, 1 stupid dollar or euro might be trivial to you but sometimes it means a lot to someone else. I still have 500+ games even if i can't pay for them right now. You can't say someone with 2k games should be able too buy gifts. Items is something else entirely. Those have selling value, but a game added to your library doesn't. Just to clarify my point: 1Euro for you might not have the same value for someone else.
p.s. I do try to giveaway games once in a while, but those are mostly games i earned trough doing tasks on tremorgames. Not every one can do that though because some countries are banned by the providers
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We can say u dont have extra money to spend to giveaways, but still u dont have extra money but still at least u have effort... and its big differnt. If effort or 0% care, yes its big difference. U earned games somewhere and sometimes u giving them here... this is effort. Its also possible take some freebie and change for low giveaway-able games. Its still effort. Its not about buy game. Its about any way to effort to do this. Creator has 0 effort and only want games from others. Here is always some way how to do it, but if he want or no and it seems just like no... effort 0%, why support them?
Your situation is bad but still effort is around, and that is positivum. I added u on white, if i create some giveaway/s (i have some plan on christmas) to give u chance to get something from my hand. I rather support guy with effort than someone who dont care at all. Thats my point i rather give game to guy with care and effort...
/and u seems like cool guy based on things u said, creator of this thread has only execuses... thats it
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Thank you, it was not my intention to create a sob story and profit from it. All i wanted to achieve was making sure people understand that a real person is sitting behind a username. I believe its become too easy to judge and punish people in this era where everyone is reduced to only a username. I do agree with you on the items part though, as i said in my previous comment. If people can have hundreds of items they cannot say a game is to expensive. I just meant that you can't really judge on the amount of games someone has and that sometimes value isn't equal for everyone. That having said, i do realise there are leechers but i don't care so much about them. leechers have always been around. What i do care about is people not thanking when they do win. For example the last game i gave away, i didn't get a simple thank you at all. Now that is a reason for me to blacklist someone. Anyway, i was just giving my opinion and obviously other people will have other opinions, and they are just as right as mine. Thank you for the wl though, i'll return the favor altough i won't be giving away anything soon. Have a great day
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Btw i added u on Steam, i can give u advice, it can help u in your situation. I cant imagine 2€ on day.
I can see u already know smth about it, but it can be more usefull.
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Things can change in someone's life. I used to have a job working 40+ hours a week and made good money but after an accident I'm no longer able to give away games as often as I used to but I still try to make giveaways when I can afford it. A lot of people around here have the mentality that someone like me should just stop entering giveaways until I can afford to better my ratio but since there's no rules about ratios then should I be criticized when there's a system in place that people can use to keep me from entering their giveaways if they really wanted to?
I live in housing for disabled individuals, I pay nothing for internet (but it's really crappy), I am on the food stamp program. My only income is from Disability. A large portion of that pays for medications that keep me alive. Yes, I have over 1000 games on Steam but if you look closely most were from cheap bundles, giveaways from other websites, and winnings from here. Others were obtained by collecting cards from other games, selling them on the market, and using that small pittance to buy another cheap bundled game that drops cards so I can repeat the process. It took me almost ten long years to get my account this big and it didn't cost me very much money out of my own pocket to get this many games.
Without knowing someone's real life story I am not so quick to call someone a leech (as many others here do) because of my own life experiences and where I am now compared to where I was just a few short years ago. Until my accident I had similar opinions to yours but now I realize that I can't use a person's Steam account to evaluate how good of a life they may be having.
But this guy though. He hasn't made a single giveaway so he has no room to complain and I'm guessing that he has lessened his chances of winning even more by joining many blacklists for his post. Must suck to be him.
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Idk if i got it with my english. But at all i think about u talking.
But its not possible to know every guy on net personally, all i can see normally is his Steam. We cant consider each person on internet as separated, u know its not possbile, tons of pipolz around and how u want to know them? Leecher is term for users who leeching :D also u can read my last post by me its minimal about effort and care about this. Here are leechers who totally dont care and only asking things from others, then some with bad life story but with effort and care. I never said all leechers are #&{{... (same)... but u can see any effort and care or no. If i cant see any effort.... = my point from post i replied on it.
Idk if its good example but:
There is homeless A, he only drinking alcohol, smoking, steal smth... 0 effort and care about better life
There is homeless B, u can see his effort to make his life better, saving as much money as possible, trying be nice, searching for some job / get money without stealing, hes polite...
If u have choice to help one of them, which one homless u pick?
I know bad example but it was first in my head :D
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Keep strong man..Minus the disability i do understand how hard it can get. I don't see you as a leecher at all. But i can understand what SketCZ is saying though and he is kinda right as well. I think we mostly think alike but as me and him aren't native english speakers, so a lot goes wrong in writing it down exactly as meant(if that makes any sense at all)
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I next to never make flash GAs, because then people not in my timezone probably might have trouble entering them.
That is mostly due to my contacting the winners right after the GA ends and giving them the key during chat.
Also, no one is keeping you from propping up the number of flash GAs.
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What's wrong with long-lasting giveways?
If you'd rather have games fast, buy those cheap bundles yourself. You'll get shiny new games instantly, no need to wait for a GA to end, no RNG involved. You're a winner each time!!!!
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I do flash giveaways, but only for level 2+ users.
OP, your ratio makes babies cry.
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ITT: OP who's sad his bot can't catch the quickies.
Sorry you have to compete with actual people.
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Sometimes you really do have / make the best gifs! Lol! :3
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People use bots to join giveaways. He seems to be confused and thinks you want long giveaways so your supposed bot would have time to find the giveaway to join.
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Vice versa, Botters love short GAs cause they just have a list of titles they want ready to auto join.
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It works the other way bro lol Can't let your bot enter too often or it will get caught, so longer giveaways work better for botters.
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Doesn't stop anyone whenever I make a public ga... there's no way you can have me believe all those joins within the first 10 seconds of uploading are people.
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Actually, it seems rather reasonable as there are always people on the site at any given point in time. I've joined a lot of giveaways myself within the first few seconds because of pure chance. So it wouldn't seem unlikely that entries start rolling in shortly after the giveaway goes public.
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When that number is averaging 30 or more in the first couple of seconds though?
I'm not saying the possibility isn't there, but I just don't like increasing botters odds.
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More than one per second does sound quite suspicious indeed :D
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oh i wouldn't be too surprised. even just 100 group of people i know don't bot i've had several enter in the first 20seconds alone. so opening it up to the public would certainly be possible. even more so on the lower lvl 0-1.
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Some people are dumb enough to have it set really short, I've seen the apps, they recommend no more than once an hour or further apart.
Either way, it makes no real difference. With shorter ones they finish faster, so quicker gratification, but with longer ones, they have more time to join them all, when they run out of points to join, there is plenty of time to still join. So, basically this is not a useful factor to consider when deciding on length. The bots will get into pretty much any giveaway that is an hour or longer than they want to. Due to the points system, shorter giveaways are a slightly better way to reduce bot entries, but still not going to keep them out.
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My Longest giv is 1 day(Just groups). I think like u. Best giveaway is fast giveaway.
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Their games, their choices. You don't have the right to complain about it.
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Everyone has the right to complain, they don't have a right to expect things to go their way though.
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"Nowadays" ... suggesting that anything changed, during the past 4 months that you have been around?
Seems far more likely that only one thing changed: Your gratitude for your chance to receive gifts.
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I only do quite short giveaways personally. I'd rather those who do see it have the best chance to win, the more people enter, the smaller those who enters chances become. I think faster is more fun, but alot of people just want as many people to have any chance at all I suppose, which is understandable.
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Careful, any question you ask on the forums when you have given away 0 games will get you into a lot of blacklists because apparently SG is a trade website.
As to your question, yes, I loved myself some fast giveaways when I used to enter them (after all, the faster the giveaway the bigger the chance to win it!). But people can set whatever length they want for their giveaways.
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I did flash GAs once.
Then I realized the majority of the entries happened the second I uploaded.
I don't like giving computer games to computers.
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That's unrelated though. If you make a public giveaway there will always be computers, regardless of how long the giveaway is.
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If you make a flash Ga that only lasts an hour or so, I can safely tell you the majority of those entries are going to be entered by algorithms, not people.
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My experience with flash GAs is a bit different. The majority of the entrants in mine were people. Bots are going to run out of points eventually if they keep entering every new giveaway posted, so they might miss flash GAs.
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because apparently SG is a trade website
Yeah not really. Ever since its beginning SG has always had the general mentality that moochers i.e. people who win games without giving away anything are the literal spawn of Satan. But back then, there wasn't a blacklist feature per se. People had to make a list of users who'd be on their BL, and it was usually for pretty good reasons (game not activated, rude on the forums etc) So while people did dislike moochers, nobody usually BL'd others for such petty reasons. Plus one had to get mod approval to display their BL on their giveaways to let those BL'd know that if they won the GA would be re-rolled. And this was only applicable to Private giveaways, so usually it simply wasn't worth the trouble of maintaining a crusade against every moocher.
Then, SGV2 happened. It's too easy to get to the earlier levels, and hence even if now people win a load of games but do not giveaway, other givers would feel that this user has indeed won without spending a dime and would not deserve a entry in their own GAs. I'm not supporting or criticizing people, but I feel they're fully within their rights and nowhere is it anything to do with trades.
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it's super easy to get lvl1. lvl2 is a bit more. but yes, still easy ;)
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too easy to get to the earlier levels
Yes, that's what I meant. I mean even giving a couple bundle games would at least net you 1 level at the very least. So I'm pretty fine with people setting levels, and while I do agree it may seem arbitrary to BL just anyone based on their contribution (or the lack thereof), they're fully at liberty to do so mainly because they're the ones spending the mon-ey!
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I never said this was something that started with the new version though, so I don't know what you're getting at with that. And I never said people don't have the right to blacklist others because of ratio (you blacklist whoever you want for whatever reasons you want). I just can't stand these comments, like "oh you have never given anything away, so you don't get to complain" or "but where are YOUR giveaways". It has everything to do with trades, because for every game you win you must give one or two back, according to these people. If someone gives 100 games away and has never won anything, they're amazing. But if someone wins 100 games and has never given anything away, they're a monster. All I'm saying is that bugs me. I don't care how easy it is to level up, if someone just wants to win, why do they have to get so much shit for that? They aren't a part of the community just because they have never given anything away?
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Yes I agree with you on that I was just trying to explain why your analogy of "SG is a trade site" is wrong, but yes I agree indeed this mentality is not the most charitable one on a site originally about charitable giving away, but well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I see. Well, that analogy was aimed at those people I mentioned, because having to give something back every time you win something is nothing more than a trade in my opinion.
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Someone who hasn't made a single giveaway complaining about those who are giving games for free? Wow...
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Well at least he has the decency to point this out to us. Letting us all know what kind of person he/she is.
That's very fair :)
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It's always upto contributors to decide .. if you want SG to have some fast ones, why not do it by yourself ? :))
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The time that is set is only up to the individual giveaway creator! :3
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There are so many low-price games which could have just some hours of giveaway, but people keep giving 6+ days!!! Where are the loved fast giveaways???
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