Just because you are from Germany automatically makes you a nazi? What an ass. So Germany made a MASSIVE mistake there, that doesn't mean ALL Germans are bad. I've known a LOT of good people from Germany. Maybe report him?
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First rule of time travel is you have to kill Hitler.
Actually, this DeLorean theory is starting to make sense...
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Also, the nazi movement was just a product of the situation. Never mind the fact that it was a long time ago and only a small percentage of people that held the nazi ideals are still alive.
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besides the fact that nowadays the biggest neonazi groups are based in the united states and russia.
but hey, who cares if you are an uneducated shitfuck calling a german a nazi...
germany is the number one country with the most foreigners in whole europe!
germany saves more for refugees than any other european country.
oh and germany RULES europe!
thanks and bye
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"germany RULES europe!"
Yeah. Thats why the whole europe is going to hell. National socialism in the 30's-40's and multicultural socialism today - what a great country germany is... Flooding europe with uneducated immigrants, spoiling them with free social benefits and destroying the whole economies of european countries by introduction of many pointless and harmful regulations through EU's institutions.
HAIL GERMANY!
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Good job on editing that bs out. You're still wrong with 60-70 though (2014-70=1944). The youngest child soldiers in the Volkssturm were (to my knowledge) 12, so they would have to be born latest in 1933, in which case they'd be 80+ by now. Implying that they were and are Nazis is still incredibly ignorant. And stop making up random percentages and presenting them as facts.
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Even tho nazi's arent that bad, are they? <3 Hatler
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I'll start by warning you to NEVER post the user name of a rule breaker. It's calling out, and could/will result in a ban.
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Now that this is said, back on topic. :)
So, to request a re-roll, he will have to contact the support. If he contact support, he needs a good reason for them to actually do it. Which means that support will not re-roll.
But he probably just created a fake giveaway, and he is trying to get away with it.
The best solution in your case would be to submit a support ticket, including every details possible. The link to the giveaway, the giveaway creator's profile.
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It does and it doesn't matter at the same time.
Many people lost their family, wealth, fame and good name just because nazi and commie invasions in world war. Are normal German or Russian people living in our times responsible for that? Well no... But even if they are not responsible many people can't force themselves to love them. It is not fair... true. It is not logical or rational... true... But like I said if their grandparents were killed or raped (countless victims) it is not so weird that they can't force themself.
As for me... Well I don't see any problem, in my eyes young ones are not responsible for sins of their fathers/grandfathers. On the other hand... If I saw somebody with avatar/profile propagating nazism or communism I wouldn't give him reward. But that's probably not the case here...
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Too many people were brutally murdered in the name of communism. As a matter of fact in many countries of Easter Europe communists acted far worse than nazists did. There is a good damn reason why they were called a “red plague”… Army of Germany, including SS were acting brutally… but in comparison to soviets they acted as “civilized people”. Communist were just a bloodthirsty savages murdering, raping, pillaging everything is sight. They acted like animals, like beasts… not like human.
All in all more people were killed because of communism than nazism… Be it Eastern Europe, Russia, Vietnam, China, Cambodia, Korea, Cuba, Colombia… it is red plague after all
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That's probably because the Nazis ruled only for 12 years, whereas the communist regimes had way more time to kill people for disagreeing with them.
'Red plague', 'bloodthirsty savages'? Way to go with spreading hate for leftism while playing down nazi war und humanity crimes. I don't know why exactly you feel such a blind hatred against leftists, maybe you're a nazi yourself?
Some mentally unstable people (Mao, Stalin) killing millions of people randomly in the name of communism doesn't mean that communism or socialism is automatically all about killing everyone. If you truly think that, I honestly regret your existence.
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Oh... thx for showing up :*
That's exactly what I was talking about. Hammer and sickle in the nickname for me would be good enough reason not to give you reward. Well nobody can blame me because even in constitution (NOT criminal code) of my country promoting of either communism or nazism is treated as a serious crime.
Yup they were red plague and bloodthirsty savages… would you like me to tell you story about 12 years old sister of my grandfather who was brutally gangraped by soldiers as a “fee” for letting them runaway from city. Those animals which invaded eastern Europe were nothing close to being human.
Communism is not leftist view it is mad distortion, filth, just a sick abomination. All extreme views be it from left or right are something created by maniacs for other maniacs.
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First of all, if you would have bothered to read my description, it would be clear that I am NOT a communist. (And what do you mean by reward? I really can't figure that out) I merely have it in my nick to show that I'm a leftist, as I am not ashamed to admit.
As a matter of fact, I am from eastern Europe, and my parents and grandparents too have told me stories, not as horrible ones as yours, but I do know there were disgusting things going on in the Eastern Bloc.
Your problem seems to be that you see the world in black and white. Bad, evil leftists (and rightists too, apparently) versus the good and honorable 'others'. You seem to think that everyone who's leftist is thinking and acting exactly as the soviet soldiers from your grandparent's memories. That is wrong, at least I hope so. I, for one, am too disgusted and ashamed by what communist governments did, the Holodomor, the 'Great Leap Forward', and letting all of Eastern Europe suffer for the sake of keeping up an economic and political system which could not be sustained in a humane way.
I honestly can't blame you for being so harsh with me, but I really hope you can open up a bit to others views a bit. Communism and Nazism are despicable things and hopefully will never rise up again. But once again I must stretch that I am a socialist, not a communist. Not all leftists think alike, and you should not discriminate someone for their beliefs before hearing them out.
I hope you read all this, and maybe don't judge me so harshly after this. I am only a young man who hopes that the ideals of social justice and equality one day might be fulfilled. If I offend you by being proud of believing in that, I apologize.
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"As for me... Well I don't see any problem, in my eyes young ones are not responsible for sins of their fathers/grandfathers. On the other hand... If I saw somebody with avatar/profile propagating nazism or communism I wouldn't give him reward. But that's probably not the case here..."
Please do read everything from my first post...
I am truly dumbfounded… you used sign of communism to show that you have left-wing views… that’s purely ridiculous. So how about using swastika to show that someone have right-wing views (and btw. yes I am aware that Nazism if chimera of socialism and nationalism) sounds preposterous and stupid, no?
Pardon me, but to me it seems that it is you who see everything in black and white. I did not say that I am against leftists, did I? On the other hand I never said anything about being against rightists… The only one who identifies communism with whole left-wing views is you… so I will ask you simple question “if you are supporter of left-wing views does that mean that you HAVE TO be communist?”
I don’t have anything against rightists or leftists just like I don’t have anything against Russians or Germans… But I DO have plenty against communists and nazists.
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Well this turned into a heated political discussion pretty quick, did't it?
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Actually what I meant was that I didn't understand what you meant with reward, but over night I figured it out anyway, and I totally understand that.
I see your point, but I personally don't see the hammer and sickle as a symbol of solidarity with the USSR, the PRC or any other communist regime, but as a symbol of the far-left movement. Obviously, to others, such as yourself, it may appear different, as you don't know my motives behind using it. Nazism in my opinion had not much to do with socialism, but I must admit I didn't really dig into nazi economy, so I might as well be wrong.
You did not explicitly say that, no, but I judged by the way you reacted to me that you were against leftists of any kind, and when you said 'All extreme views be it from left or right are something created by maniacs for other maniacs.', I figured you would react the same way to right-wingers. However, I too did not say that I identify communism with all leftism, should you be referring to the hammer and sickle again, I already explained that earlier.
To answer your question: No. I never said that nor did I hint at it. Communism is a distorted version of socialism, and socialism already is a rather extreme left-wing view.
In that case, I don't really see your problem. I'm socialist, not communist, and just like you, I despise nazis and radical communists.
Do you also have a problem with the red star?
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Huh... I kinda get feeling that you are truly "not a very political person"… you simply have no idea what you are talking about. Hammer and sickle is not symbol of left-wing parties it is symbol of communism AND COMMUNISM ALONE
There is no reasonable justification for using it, it is just using communistic symbol… saying things like “as you don't know my motives behind using it” sounds stupid as hell. I do know what this symbol means and highly encourage you to check it yourself.
“Nazism in my opinion had not much to do with socialism” … again I am dumbfounded… how old are you? Really… I can’t find reasonable reason for your nonsense. Nazi party = National Socialist German Workers' Party
You tried to verbally attack me when I was speaking only about communism… I haven’t said anything about leftism before but you accused me of spreading hate toward all people with left-wing views. You were clearly wrong… but you are again trying very hard to justify your previous statements. But sadly it is not possible… you were wrong and you must acknowledge it.
Sadly… I must say that your level of ignorance is truly frightening. This is very dangerous phenomenon… people like you without basic knowledge about history and politics are bound to be pawns in hands of populists and demagogues. As harsh as it may sound… I think that people like that should be deprived of right to vote. I fear that one day you will vote for some extremists with hateful views without even knowing it.
Further discussion is meaningless.
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Apparently, it truly is, my final exams back in school were in history and I got the highest grade, and I am very interested in history, especially in the interwar period and WW2. I tried talking reasonable and respectful, but apparently you have nothing to offer but insult my intelligence and maturity. Good job.
I know very well what that symbol stands for, and when I say I'm not a very political person I meant that I am not engaging myself in any parties or other organizations because none of them are standing for what I believe in. Also I stated that for me it is a symbol for far-left politics, what others hold it for is their business, not mine.
I do know what Nazi stands for, yet I don't think that what they did had much to do with socialism, their politics were based on hate, populism, revanchism and elitism.
If I did seem like I was trying to protect my first statements, you got me wrong. I implied that I misread your intentions, but after how you replied to me in this post I'm not going to apologize for anything.
I am a well educated and reasoning person, and I can very well see through populist propaganda. As stated above I am not a member of any political parties because none of them are being sincere or reasonable in my opinion. I would never vote for extremists, nor for parties with hateful views, because unlike you, I don't feel hate for people with certain political views. You just don't even try to understand me or my motivations. If it helps, you can add me and we might talk about it in private. I, for one, will not respond to anything in this thread anymore.
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Facepalm...
"I know what swastika is! But I'm going to use it just to show that I am conservative" sound ridiculous, no? How can I even take you seriously after spewing such nonsense? What you personally think is meaningless it is symbol of communism and not the symbol of all leftists. What would you do if you met guy who is using swastika and SS symbols just because he THINKS that those are symbol of LOVE and FERTILITY. Absurd! Do you think that such explanation would be good enough for court? “sorry mr. judge I am using symbols that are banned… but I believe that they mean something else! I am serious mr. judge!” I can’t tell… are you that naïve?
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Agreed. My grandmother was telling me about how german soldiers would give food or something else to them, while the russian soldiers would take away what they had and hit them afterwards.
Also - Germans planted mines on a bridge near my country house, but hey , they did show my fammily how to deactivate the mines...! I'm not a nazi, but facts be facts!I wish my country was never occupied by Russia....
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But much more people were murdered in the name of God. Believing in god should be illegal.
Of course, there were murders, rapings, marauders, burnt homes, people acting like beasts. Roman soldiers were like this, medieval armies acted the same, WWI was no better, modern "peacekeepers" aren't too far away. It isn't the communism that draws out the worst parts of human nature. The war is. When your home was burnt, your relatives and friends killed, tortured or raped, you retaliate without mercy.
Still, most of the stories about soviet savages, mass rapings and murders were created by Goebbels, the grandmaster of propaganda, and carried on by Western Bloc during the Cold War. It was in every western textbook, so everyone takes this as as a given fact.
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We mostly just call those people racist.
Actually, wait wait wait... I'm american and I have NEVER met someone who was emotional about the civil war unless they were really into the recounting and recreation of historical battles and stuff (history nerds).
I call bullshit. I don't think you know what the hell you're talking about.
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There are still plenty of people who strongly believe the Confederacy was right and some who call it "The War of Northern Aggression". Just because you haven't seen them doesn't mean they don't exist. Also, I was just trying to point out that grudges can last over time.
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That's like me saying that since I'm german, I have a grudge against the roman empire for conquering my ancestors. It's retarded. I doubt you would ever believe me if I said that, and I would have to be crazy to even believe it myself.
Secondly, "the war of northern aggression" is a phrase you will almost never encounter outside of a history textbook. Nobody actually talks like that. Nobody.
Third, the confederate flag is often used as a symbol of states rights and it's almost always done to get media attention because everyone knows that the news media will gobble that shit up. It always works. That's also what makes it such a terrible choice because there are always some idiots who come along and try to turn it into a racism issue or just plain misrepresent the entire thing as being racist.
It's actually kind of sad that someone would use google image search and parade out some photo of a bunch of idiotic high school students embarrassing themselves like that because they don't know any better. I am face palming so hard right now.
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It is illogical. People can be stupid, but it's not like idiots EVER show up on the internet.
Second, Never? And I do know that they are a very small minority of the population. My point is that they exist.
Third, in the specific case of that photo, they were holding the flags because they were "proud of their heritage," but maybe they are attention whores. I don't know.
And like I said above, it's not like idiotic high school students EVER show up on the internet.
Lastly, if you absolutely believe grudges are not held over past incidents, even relatively recent ones such as WWII, Chinese-Japanese relations have been growing even more tense because of the Rape of Nanking.
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nanking isnt a past incident really for the oldest people in the world its in living memory and it ties into territorial crap theyre still fighting over though its thankfully limited to a war of words, i agree with you though people will bring up any old crap to bolster their argument often because they dont have any real grudge without going back a generation
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About the NRA guy: did you notice that even the people in his own audience were laughing at him when he said that? The man is practically a cartoon for god's sakes. I support gun rights, but the NRA to me is kind of an embarrassment. But stuff like that happens. Sometimes the wrong people get behind a cause and ride on it. I'm not black, but I've heard that some black people feel that way about Jessie Jackson and they kinda wish he'd go away. Oh and I did not say "never". I said nobody talks like that. I still stand by that. Nobody talks like that. Except Mr. Yosemite Sam, there, I guess, and I honestly believe he was just putting on a performance there.
See, there's a dirty little secret about gun ownership: some of the people who are the best customers of gun retailers are that way because they tend to be a little... shall we say... paranoid? So the NRA effectively exists as spokespeople for gun manufacturers and retailers as much as they do for gun rights... maybe more. Having spokespeople and figureheads that reflect that paranoia and feed into it is probably a strategic move motivated by self-interest more than anything else.
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I'm trying to say that the example you gave is lip service. You can't take it seriously. It's motivated self-interest. Like how advertisement agencies use sex to sell products. Nobody actually talks like the people in ads that use sex to sell stuff. Not in real life. I think the same thing applies to the example you gave. If you find somebody who does talk like that, they're either crazy or they have an ulterior motive for doing so. Just like if you find somebody who talks and acts like the people in sexy commercials, they too would either be totally crazy or have an ulterior motive for doing so.
You quite literally dragged out the worst possible example.
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If there is lip service, unless the person doing the lip service is retarded or it's satire, there must be a target audience. Anyways, people like that are an extreme minority, but they do exist. It doesn't matter what shitty example I used, they do exist.
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Yeah, just like ads that use sex are targeting horny people (hint: almost everyone who ever lived, otherwise the human race would never have survived). The NRA guy is targeting insecure and paranoid people by projecting himself as a member of a confident subculture of empowered and savvy good old fashioned americans which you can be a part of if you just buy a gun and believe that people are out to get you. He's playing a character.
He's creating the fear by alluding to a boogeyman of his own creation. The fear and the paranoia lead to the desired solution: be one of us! Buy guns and pay your NRA membership dues. Or else the boogeyman will get us all.
But here's the thing: it wouldn't work if he just came out and said that. People would immediately realize what he was doing. It has to be more subtle. It has to work on a subconscious level.
Just like advertising that uses sex. People wouldn't fall for it if advertisers just came out and said "buy this and you'll get laid". Nobody believes that on a conscious level, so it has to work on a subconscious level.
So yes there is an audience, but that doesn't mean the people in that audience really buy into that crap. I'm sure there must be some. But not as many as you'd want to believe or would have me believe.
I mean, I said it before but I think it bears repeating: his own audience was laughing at him. I'd have to believe that the people who were there were already supporters, and yet they burst into laughter when he said that.
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the worst thing is they used to be legit, it was all about responsible gun ownership, keeping them away from dangerous idiots and training owners to handle them safely...then shit got political and they became a cartoon because of that false dichotomy thing. like they felt they had to be the parody their opponents made them out to be because god forbid anybody have any reasonable common ground.
its like the texas late term abortion mess. any sane woman doesn't want to drill a hole in the back of a 8.5 months baby and still have to give birth to a corpse but it pisses off the lifers so pro choice it is.
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Had to check out that website you linked thought, surprised to see this kind of news from conservatives news websites even thought they obviously treat it their way but generally they just ignore this kind of reports. this looks cool too.
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I agree with a lot of what you said, but having spent time in Texas, I can assure you that there are people that use the phrase "the war of northern aggression" in all seriousness. Texas is a strange place though (in both good and bad ways), so I'd hardly call that a representative sample. I don't think I've met anyone who got really emotional over it (the civil war), though. Just a bit of resentment still lingering
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I'm sorry but that's just batshit crazy. There's hardly anyone left alive who would even remember that crap. At this point they've got to just be feeding off of what they've heard about. You can't call that a grudge. They weren't there, and it doesn't affect their lives in any tangible way beyond the standard territorial posturing that may sometimes take place between the governments of neighbouring countries, and most people know nothing of those sorts of things beyond what little they retain from news reports.
We don't live in that world anymore and like 99% percent of those people are dead and gone. There has to be some other word to represent this phenomenon.
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Parents tell children that Japanese people are evil. Children believe it. I believe that's called indoctrination, but it does happen.
Also, the Chinese government held a Nanking memorial fairly recently, I believe. Government influence may have a role.
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Yeah buts that's not a grudge. How you call it that? It's more like blind faith or religion backed up by a very selective interpretation of events. Prejudice. That's closer to home, by still not quite the word that I think encapsulates it...
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The Civil War was probably a poor choice. The original subject was grudges against Germans because of the Nazis. Butts said that it's been 65+ years since, which implies that the grudge would have already died out. I'm arguing that it wouldn't have, but again, The Civil War was probably a poor choice.
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I mean you're going to find ignorance everywhere. So I imagine some people do still hold a grudge against the German people because of the Nazis. However, I think it's probably more likely that in this case, the guy was just being a dick for the sake of being a dick. He picked the fact that WaaaghGER is German just because it was an easy target. If WaaaghGER's profile said he was from Israel, the douche would have probably made disparaging remarks about Jews instead, etc...
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What I'm trying to say is that I can't seriously believe anyone could legitimately hold a grudge about something that ended either way before they were ever born, or while they were still a child and weren't ever really affected by it.
I guess the only people who I could see as legitimately holding a grudge at this point would be the germans themselves because they had struggle long after the war ended and are still dealing with some of the aftermath of it to this day.
Sort of anger or resentment beyond that is quite frankly stupid or must have some ulterior motive behind it, and I can't take it seriously as such.
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well it really wasn't about slavery, lincoln just did that strategically so england wouldn't side with the south, he didn't give a shit about black people and even said as much, going as far as having quotes where he flat out stated they should never be equal(or intermarry or ever hold public office(half black president obama has the great emancipator spinning in his grave with fury)) and supported shipping them all back to africa after the war.
all that stuff they teach in schools was retconned into history later because it sounds shiny and nice and made us the good guys.
iirc the whole northern aggression thing is more about how they pretty much raped the south after it ended with their restoration than the war itself, and the only people who know or care about that are reenactors who read period diaries for fun.
also many uses of that flag are an old carryover from (fairly recent)decades of it being used more as shorthand for the south in general than any sort of a race thing. see: dukes of hazard for an example.
im pretty sure nobody(well close enough to make no difference) is actually buthurt about it and that photo lacks any sort of context so its pretty rubbish evidence
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They simply like the flag. I like that flag too. Way better looking than current US flag.
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They simply like the flag. I like that flag too. Way better looking than current US flag.
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You're not allowed to have more than 1 account on Steamgifts.
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BTW, the "drawer" in this case is steamgifts, not the creator of the giveaway. Steamgifts automatically handles the draw. The contributor cannot draw the winner.
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I don't know if you meant to reply to someone with that, but I do believe if we hadn't nuked Japan, we would have been nuked ourselves. Both the Japanese and the Americans were trying to complete their atomic bomb, and I we happened to be first, just because we completed ours first doesn't make us the good guy.
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In theory, the civilians would have still been in danger, since Japan would have become a warzone, who knows how many would have been killed if us Americans decided to make landfall. I am sure that was something they took into consideration when decided if they were to bomb Japan, along with projected troop casualties, financial costs, and success rates. I would assume that they would probably have figured the civilian loss on the enemy's side with less consideration as there was a lot of hate toward Japan from what they have done to Americans (Pearl Harbor and such). Were there other options, yes, was the bomb the best option at the time, it is impossible to tell.
Moral of the story is: War sucks.
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yeah, what the hell america. japan was basically about to surrender anyway, and those two random civilian cities? should have just used targeted conventional bombs on tokyo where the emperor actually was, we even had a plan for that. but weren't there other political concerns with like russia and stuff? something about the show of force
then again all my info is from alternately anvilicously biased "white guilt" or whitewashed paladinesque textbooks my school only had time to skim anyway supplemented with the japanese owned history channel that has episodes about the haunted Mayflower and mermaid autopsies so who even knows. not americans thats for sure :P
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There's two things I can't stand:
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dude that nazi stuff is never ever going to go away, time to accept that. if you wanted forgiveness you should have fucked with the irish instead, they just take all the shit and roll with it. jews on the other hand still chew at that old egyptian slavery thing some 4000 odd years later.
what even happened to the badass warrior race that conquered half the known world in the torah? you know the "want to marry my daughter? prove you're a man first, go fill this sack with 1000 barbarian foreskins from that village over there" types... apparently when egyptians domesticate something it stays domesticated(so why are camels such assholes?) ;0)
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Email him back, say: "Its nazi my problem if you have a problem with z nazis."
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The only recent DayZ GA with no winners yet is an obvious fake so I'd just let it go and mark it unrecieved.
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This made me laugh so much. I wouldn't give a flying fuck about it if I was you.
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but if the guy re-rolls, OP loses the won gift ;__;
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The guy won't get a reroll. It's just "not received". Also as a German it's common sense to get called a Nazi on the internet, hell even in real life. Just don't give a fuck about these iditots and move on.
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Iam German and i wouldnt give a fuck if somebody calls me like that, better this than a dirty communist pig. xD
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Those people who call every german a nazi are just scared, because they know that our tanks which remained from WW II are still ahead in weaponry and technology compared to their imitated vehicles.
While all other fractions had to navigate their rockets through complicated calculations, our tanks and airplanes were uploading Killstats straight to the central computer located in the FÜHRER-HQ.
BAD KITTY, BAD BAD BAD KITTY!
Ofc Im just kidding, hope noone feels offended, much love pls x3
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I like MAUS.
Hope you know what I mean , if not - GOOOOOGLE.
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Dumb is dumb however its still internet and he have free will to choose what he want to do or not
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The guy who starts the give away wrote me that:
"Hey, your won a dayz copy from me. But i have reconized youre just a nazi so i select another winner"
What the...?!
Scary to see some people are so blind and so ignorant about a history.
Dont know why so many people still think about this nazi times. I think they should try to get some more history about TODAY.
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