That Linux OS user count is extremely low. Especially if you consider that would include all the Steam Decks as well.
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i have a steam deck but i didn't participate in the survey, i haven't even connected to the internet this month
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Would it? I'd assume most deck users take advantage of both PC and steamdeck and are more likely to answer from PC (which majority is windows)
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Do you really think steam deck has a high enough percentage of the player base to make a difference to those numbers?
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It actually comprises ~40% of the Linux user count who participated in the survey, so it's a relatively big number (270k Steam Deck). Of course not big enough to make that much of a difference in 36M daily users.
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36M daily users....
Impressive number, especially considering how (mostly) error-free the system works.
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If you consider 36 millions peak online, 1.87% seems rather normal, especially since it's for the only thing that linux isn't so good at, gaming.
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the DirectX 12 metric is useless, even 10 year old cards have DirectX 12, i would like to see the feature levels, especially 12_2 (GeForce 20,30,40 series), 12_1 (GeForce 900, 10, 16) and 12_0 (older cards)
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As a W10 user, I wonder why I still refuse to update to W11 everytime my pc boots and asks me to
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I'm still on W10 as well, one of my friends recently upgraded to 11, and experienced frequently bluescreens. Tried formatting it to W11 and still experienced blue screens. So then he formatted and went back to 10, and no bluescreens since.
And I keep on hearing mixed information, some people say W11 is better for gaming today, and other people say it's worse for gaming today and still needs more tweaks.
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i upgraded to windows 11 about a month ago and its been running smooth ever since, i just needed to tweak some of the UI stuffs because i didn't like the way they looked, otherwise its pretty stable and I'm getting about the same fps in most games and sometimes like 5% more fps
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I will prob go to Win 11 when my SSD crashes, or when I upgrade to a new PC
Doing it just because seems like a waste of a persons time, since W11 doesn't improve on enough to warrant upgrading to it because you want to use W11s new features. Correcty me if I'm wrong.
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I was skeptical at first, but I upgraded and I have no regrets, also 0 issues for more than 2 years already.
I also use some mods for start menu and explorer, to make it "mine".
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i mainly upgraded cause i was tired of seeing the upgrade to windows 11 messages in settings and also because i like the new tabs feature in the file explorer, i know you can get that in windows 10 by doing some registry tweaks and installing a third party app but i didnt want to go that route, also the snapping windows feature is surprisingly useful, i disabled all the other options and left it so when i hover my mouse over the maximize window button it pops up the menu
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You can get a very similar feature using PowerToys from Microsoft - FancyZones (Personally, I still use it even in Windows 11).
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Blue Screens, (even more) resource hogging, microsoft account enforcement, everything that was bad with 10 is now worse with 11?
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Nivida RTX 3060 is the card most used with 5.86% followed by the 4060 with 4.85%.
Only goes to show how successful it was, and also how much variety there is in configurations! less than 6% for the top one!
I must say I was surprised by how big Nvidia share is compared to AMD. I thought AMD would have climbed a little in past years.
The only real surprise was in the language section for me lol. Not so much the near 37% Chinese but the low numbers of Spanish language and Russian.
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Yeah, this stat is not really useful to understand the GPU landscape. I'd rather see a stat about the percentage who use 20's, 30's or 40's GPUs.
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Exactly. The model itself is kinda irrelevant if we can't see all the stats
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The most stand-out stat for me:
Language
Simplified Chinese
36.57%
+1.54%
And that is probably the biggest reason why it will be very difficult for any other company to dethrone Steam in the pc market.
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That is true, but it's not the first time I've heard that Steam's big concurrent user numbers are increasingly being driven by the Asian market.
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Having worked on international survey before, I can tell you that's unlikely. Most Asian cultures put a premium on self effacing and that makes Asians less likely to respond to surveys or more likely to select neutral answers when asked to rate specific features.
It's a well known bias in global surveys.
When you couple that with the fact a lot of Chinese are weary of sharing private information about themselves, for obvious reasons, the real numbers are probably even higher
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I would have thought Tencent's involvement in Epic, and the Chinese government involvement with Tencent would have an effect on the Chinese market, that's all.
Not that they would block Steam or anything, as long as Steam plays ball anyway.
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Interesting. I forgot Epic was involved with Tencent. But yeah, it doesn't seem to be impacting Steams popularity.
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Might actually help Steam now that I think about it. Tencent's association with the government probably would make Chinese users choose another platform as long as they're able to.
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It is a "survey" from people who willingly participated. There is no information about how many participated or what percentage of the total users they represent. It's quite literally an arbitrary table of numbers if they don't give out the base population and participation percentage. Statistically/mathematically speaking, these "statistics" are of the worst kind and the easiest to manipulate and draw conclusions from.
Sure it looks like a useful wall of numbers.. but without the building where that wall came from, it is useless and potentially misleading.
If there is information about how they came about this table, feel free to correct me that it is somewhere available indeed.
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Answers are not provided by individuals, it's a scan of your PC/components. That doesn't negate the population sampling issue, but it's not like the information is factually wrong. There are also no conclusions being presented by Valve, simply putting the numbers out there. Not sure how that can be inferred as "manipulating" and how that is harmfully misleading in any way. At worst, it's just some useless info.
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Yes the scan is from actual PCs/etc, that is a given, so the absolute numbers are correct, but showing a table of percentage can be misleading, e.g. the "majority of users have windows 10" or other such conclusions. The conclusions come from what we, the users, make of the data and you can see it in various talks. They don't have to change values. That's not where any potential "manipulation" may come from, but they could well decide to not show specific user's hardware and thus.. manipulate the final results. My main issue is that they're just blind percentages and they don't represent anything if we can't have the whole picture. Not saying they hide or don't, certain stats, but they can.. and we don't know it.
To me at best it's useless info, at worst it's "cooking up statistics".
Hi Gaffi!
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at worst it's "cooking up statistics".
But to what end? What purpose would that serve, and who would gain from it?
Cheers!
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They're a giant conglomerate that can favour a certain, say, GPU or some other hardware part, a VR set for example.. anything really. Seeing it come up and "beat" others, is enough of a reason, for some, to go and acquire it.
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They must be pretty bad at manipulating the markets when their own survey only gives them a 15.65% market share for their own VR system. And that's IIRC the only product that could potentially be pushed in this survey by this "giant conglomerate".
This survey was never a frontrunner to promote sales, instead it tells developers how far their potential market has evolved and how much effort they must consider to put into support for low-end systems.
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As long as you keep in mind what I said:
Not saying they hide or don't, certain stats, but they can.. and we don't know it.
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It is a "survey" from people who willingly participated.
The dread of it all. The survey that is taken from the ones who aren't willingly participating comes next month.
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Heh so basically just like any survey ever made.
People always assume surveys are "facts" when actually they're very often biased and pointless.
"Numbers don't lie" was probably a phrase invented by a pollster somewhere XD
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While I can't really disagree with anything you state here, I still disagree (somewhat) with the conclusion.
Yes, as a standalone the numbers are really useless, just curiosa for fun really. But as a test taken several times over time we can draw some conclusion still because: It's ok to assume that the same type of account holder will participate, so then you can build a number set from that type of account holder, and over time you can draw conclusions from that number set that will be more or less correct - including for many not participating as you can assume they follow an approximate set.
No, you cannot make detailed and exact conclucions (especially not from only one or two surveys), but you can for sure work with these numbers - even as incomplete as they are.
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The other issue is that there is no information as to whom is being offered to particicape. That may negate the assumption of the "type of account holder". Then again, what does "type" of account holder mean? "Type" of person/mentality, as in one who is open to participate?
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"Type" of person/mentality, as in one who is open to participate?
Exactly what I meant. I mean cmon, you can draw conclusions on muuuuuch worse basis than this survey and still be pretty accurate in your assumptions. They just won't have a chance to be optimal the first few times, whatever you are doing on numbers as this will have to be tweaked, but for sure you can/will be in the ballpark.
But yeah, if Valve chooses to only let a certain subset participate then that would skew the numbers, but since the entire internet is not screaming "I was never asked - this is FAAAAAKE" we can be pretty sure they're not. See there, an assumption with high probability to be (mostly) correct based on only missing information.
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I never seem to be offered the chance to participate in these surveys.
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You have to be ..Chosen!
..ok, other than that, you can take it by using this information
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The new Steam survey for hardware and software went out and here's the results for those curious.
Some quick notable ones..
Direct X 12 GPUs is the most used with 93.82% followed by Dirext X 11 GPUs with .64%.
Nivida RTX 3060 is the card most used with 5.86% followed by the 4060 with 4.85%.
Windows 10 64 bit is the most used OS with 50.25% followed by Windows 11 64 bit with 49.25%.
Intel CPUs are the most used 67.38% followed by AMD with 32.57%.
Those are only the first and second place listing of what I've mentioned. There's other categories listed on the full results which you can find in the link below.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
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