..not planing on gifting anything to others. So far.

Would that be ok for you?

I mean, what I actually want to figure out by starting this thread: Are people around here actually selfless, keeeping an + 1:1 ratio?

Or is it more about beeing a frantic shopper on steam and bundles sites and than gift the stuff you don't really want, reconsidered, and instead get the more pricy games you really want through gifts?

Where do you get the keys that you gift? Why do you participate here? Why invest time in ascending in this community, which isn't about some common issue or activity, but just wining and gifting games?

Is it just an outsourced branch of the steam community, where those people with noteworthy virtual capital already know each other?

I'm not big in internets/communities. The title of the thread is actually pretty precise. So excuse my questions if you think their're naive.

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Since answers keep repeating and I guess most people won't read my other posts in the topic, I just wanted to clarify again: I'm not saying, hey I am totaly selfish and proud of it. I just wanted to know about the motivations of people and how that community works, starting with the reason thar brought ME here. Yes the title of the discussion is a bit provocative. I have my answers now and I'm pretty sure I WILL gift something here if I can spare it in the future.

So, thanks again for you understanding replies.

To those who call me a leech: I guess you call that people in real life as well. So I really don't care what you think about me and I really don't need your gifts.

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Why invest time in ascending in this community

Some people like being generous.

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I love the community. I love doing giveaways. I love gifting games to my friends. I have a 5:1 ratio and I've given plenty of games I actually want and/or are on my wishlist. Do as you please, if you want to just win -- good luck. If you want to give -- good on you.

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+1 we have good and funny people here... one of the best things I did last year was become a member here ^-^

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4 months ago I joined -- or actually became active. Best decision ever, I have met the best people here. Every day I know I will smile at least once here! I couldn't ask for anything better :3

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you both are welcomed!

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You too my Sir! :D

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I'm not so much active I guess, but I really like to read, write something here and to participate in things like. As you say, I know I'll smile here.
I like to do more for this community, everyday that I'm here ^-^

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Thats fine, be as active as you feel you want to! Exactly, its all about being happy here ^^
I'm glad, we need more people to do nice things like that :3

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We are like a big family here... Everyone like to do something, or share some kind of information! In the end of the day, everyone is happy (I hope so hahahaha)

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Well.. Not everyone is happy.. but I am sure the community isn't the reason for the unhappiness (mostly)

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the whole soundtrack is great, yes :3

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This one its my fav. T.T Also this is awesome (the anime is kinda meh, but oh the feels of Sora coming back to The World T.T )

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I can't pick one! x3

I should watch .hack//Quantum.. I haven't watched it yet :(
Quantum ED

Edit: Roots was better than the other one though... Legend of the Twilight :x

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I stopped after Roots, because i couldnt play the games :(

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I couldn't play 'em either :(

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stab stab stab

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STEB

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stab

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1/44 ratio pls

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Wrong ratio... If you have a 1/44 then I have a 29/211...

But you have a good ratio anyway, I used to be like you ;__;

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Whitelisted <3

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Aww thank you <3

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Read the previous replies, all you need to know there.

And by the way, your questions may not be naive, but having started this thread is probably not be the best way to get those freebies.

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the cruel true has been spoken!

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There are no addicts here :p

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I'm an addict. I don't hide it like the rest of you crazies ;)

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THERE ARE NO ADDICTS ON SG -- ONLY CASUAL GIFTERS <3

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But what if someone is addicted to being a casual gifter?

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No stop.

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NON stop :p

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I'm casually addicted to being an addict ;)

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Keo just stop, no. You need to close your eyes and breathe with me inhales

YOU ARE A CASUAL GIFTER! YOU ARE MORE OF A CASUAL GIFTER THAN I AM. YOU DO LIKE ONE GIVEAWAY A MONTH!

exhales

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If by a more casual gifter than you, you mean, I'm an even bigger addict, then yes. No. I do much more than a giveaway a month ;)
Hell, I can't get through most months without at least 100 GAs going through my fingers XD

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YOU GIVE AWAY ONE GAME A MONTH! YOU ARE A GOOD CASUAL GIFTER!!!

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Well, no addicts, except for two certain people. The rest are just casuals though, as you said. :)

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Me. Addict. Final. :)

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no.

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I am not addict I am just here

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I like being here, it really is simple as that. I like to give and I buy the games that I give away. Some are parts of a bundle that I didn't need and some just bought straight from a store. Winning is nice too when that happens, but I don't really consider this as any kind of investment that I would get games in equal or more in worth that I have spent.

If you don't want to spend any money at all for this site, that's fine. Everyone is welcome as long as they pass the check for joining the site. If communities aren't your thing, you won't even need to read these discussions at all and just stay on the giveaways page. If you end up winning something, do at least thank the generous person giving that game away.

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Haha, I actually like the idea. I am a friend of altruism. But at the same time we're living in societies that don't rely on that principle at all, so I am also a person who wants to understand why this is so. I don't want to be a d*** but just understand this weird coincidence. Everybody here just beeing selfless doesn't seem a sufficient explanantion to me. Which brings me to the very material question from my op: Were do you actually get the keys you gift? Are you in alot of communities where the stuff is just flowing around (which means investment of time, even if it's a pleasure for you)? Do you buy bundles and give away the stuff you allready have? Or do you actually buy stufff just to gift it (some answers point to that)?

I like playing games but I am really no big online community fan, so please understand my perspective ;)

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People buy games from bundle sites such as indiegala etc; they buy from steam full price or on sale; earn coins on sites like tremor games and buy games through doing surverys/downloading apps; and some people trade for games etc. There are many ways, everyone is different. Some people own games before coming here and give those and some people just buy as they go :)

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I give away games I already have when I buy bundle or games I know I won't play and there will be better use in someone hands. If I would be richer,.... xD Then a different story, but since a year or so, prices of games went so up, that the best idea to get any is wait and get them in bundle or on sale. Before games were like 10 pounds or so, and now any "popular" game is always over 20 -50 pounds. Which is a lot especially that some of them don't even offer so much gameplay.

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Were do you actually get the keys you gift? Are you in alot of communities where the stuff is just flowing around (which means investment of time, even if it's a pleasure for you)? Do you buy bundles and give away the stuff you allready have? Or do you actually buy stufff just to gift it (some answers point to that)?

Bundle sites drive/source most of the giveaways. I personally do buy stuff just to give away before getting a copy for myself much much later.

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+1 bought staff that don't have and then tought heyyyyy i would really like to play that one also ^^
only there isn't any bundle site in my case :|

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Don't confuse generosity with altruism. Generosity ≠ Altruistic. Altruism is a myth. That's not saying that people aren't and shouldn't be generous. Hell, there are users here that just give and never enter giveaways, but that doesn't mean they're altruistic. I used to just give away games in order to increase my CV, but now I don't care about that as much. I do enjoy giving away games, but personally, I highly dislike leeches and users that don't bother to say "thanks" after winning. I don't care what someone gives away, as long as they at least give something away once in awhile. Someone's won/sent ratio doesn't have to be 1:1, but it's irritating coming across users with a ratio that's something ridiculous like... 200:1. There are quite a few ways to get games cheaply... even selling Steam cards can give you enough to buy a cheap game. I won't blacklist you, but I know that some users will because of this thread.

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Altruism is a myth

Just because you can't wrap your head around a concept doesn't make it any less real.

Altruism in action

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Believe whatever you wish.

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+1 this entire statement.

I'm not so worried about people's ratios, because if we didn't have "Leeches" then the rest of people who are concerned about their positive ratios, would be those who had bad ratios, because someone would have to win the games, right?
However, I do prefer that people give something, there are too many ways people can get games for minimal effort and then give back to the community. there's not really an excuse for not doing so except greed and such.

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I think you underestimate the amount of altruism in society today. Without the people who donate their time, eforts and/or money to various organizations (local red cross etc,) we would be in a even worse state. The more local government pulls back from financing the more people are having to do themselves with hardly any recompense from the state.
As for SG: There are people who have the necessary income to give away stuff because they just like being generous. Some people get keys from other giveaways or competitions that they don't really need. Some people buy bundles and give way the extraneous items. Others join the GAs and hardly give away stuff because they don't have the income to do so. Nothing wrong with that. There are tools for GA creators to restrict who may join your GA.
And entering GAs is like playing the lottery. You never know if you might win, but looking around for GAs, reading discussions and comments is interesting in itself.

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Haha, I actually like the idea. I am a friend of autism.

I see.

Anyway, there are no requirements, enter whatever "random junk" (bundle leftovers) giveaways that are the usual contents of level 0 public GA's here where no one cares about the results. We can make level 1+ GA's to exclude leechers anyway.

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I'm planning on dancing in this thread.

Would that be ok for you?

Let's dance!!

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Dancing is fine and Mr Ouizo is the shit. I prefer this one tough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX5JVB_Puas

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Hell yes! I had the pleasure of seeing him twice back in 2013. Drove 500 miles for the first show, the second was in my city luckily enough. He dropped a lot of the new stuff from his collaboration with Boys Noize

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Didn't know about Handbraekes before. It's pretty cool :D Never saw Monsieur O. live myself...

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that song is horrible ...

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Some people don't give anything away; some people only give things away to raise their level so they can enter more giveaways; and some people make giveaways because they enjoy giving things away. Bit of everything here. Also, it gets oddly addictive, like gambling.

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yeah I realized this. Points get to max so quick you could spend all day entering giveaways. And start adding games to your wishlist way more liberally so you can do it more quick.

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Why are you even asking? You can do whatever you want, as long as it's not against the rules. You are free to do anything you like. :) I'm giving away games because I'm generous. I'm getting the games from steam from the profit I make by trading games. I know nobody and nobody knows me. I just want to give something to a random person and, hopefully, make him/her happy. Anyway, welcome and have fun here. ;)

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I was like you once, one time I created a giveaway because contributor GA are cool, and it felt really nice giving something to another person, so I kept doing it once in a while. I don't have a super huge ratio because of money but I do what I can.
I don't mind if you don't give, I can understand that point of view. :)

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i have seen everything :|

leech away, i guess...

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Started because I didn't want my bundle leftovers to go to waste. Stuck around because I like to do things for people.

Morbid as it sounds, a good portion of us lead lives where we aren't as appreciated for good deeds, so it's good to have that kind of place.

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I usually give away keys I get in bundles that I already have, or am just not interested in. I'd rather have someone else play it and enjoy it than it just sit with me. I've yet to win a giveaway as I'm fairly new, but I still love giving things away.

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I give because I feel guilt from winning. Unfortunately, I'm also broke and stingy. Which means I don't give stuff away that is expensive, but I have given stuff away that I wanted to keep...

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you won The Witcher 3 in june so :V

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Yes. I'm not entirely sure why you mention it, though.

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No reason , I was just saying , you were very lucky :D

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This is very true. Especially since my little brother asked for it for his birthday only a week before.

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Gaming saved my life.
I'm just paying it forward, I guess. :)

Making someone smile doesn't cost much here.

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The terrible truth is that initially I thought giving was a way of getting more points. I feel rather silly admitting that now. So my original intentions did involve giving so that I could get. But after I learned how the points worked and gave a few things away, I found I liked the feeling of all those "thank yous." And once I wandered into the forums and found the community behind the giveaways I wanted to give more to them. I still like to win things too though. It feels good to win! :D So I give because it's an awesome community to give to but I give being well aware of what I can get back in return. So I guess I'm not totally altruistic.
Pretty much all my keys come from bundles but I do like to buy things from Steam sometimes to give as gifts. It makes me happy knowing I can totally make someone's day.

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You are doing it great Pearadise! (soo good, cant nominate you here )

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Thanks so much for saying so. I guess I was in such a hurry to give I leveled right out of the nomination qualifications, lol. Oh well, I appreciate the though :)

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I did the same thing!

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Thank you all for answering my questions. You really helped me to better understand the whole thing ;) Will be gifting myself one day I guess... Maybe someone can answer one more question: Is it save to buy all my steam games as a gift (during sales especially) and decide later if I want to keep them? Is there something to consider about that?

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Just be aware that sometimes Region Lock can be retroactively added to your inventory item :)

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thank you both for clarifying!

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You can also gift it here in a ga if you decide you dont want the game=}

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That's the idea ;)

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Storing games as inventory items is a nice way to keep your library in check and letting you decide if you want to increase backlog or add them as you want to play them. Plus this way if you change your mind about a game, you can just trade or give it away to someone who'd like it, instead of letting it rot in the library or getting it removed.

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Came here to get some free games - approaching my 600th giveaway soon, no regrets :) I've got to know amazing people, got friends to talk with / play with and a community I'm happy to see :)

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I give away games that come in bundles and that I wont play or already have.
Theres this rare occasion where I bought a game just to give it away here.

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The selflessness might come in time.
I started by giving out bundled games that I didn't want or already had. A couple of months and the notion to give something of (")worth(") can rub off on you. More than the gift of giving to my fellow gamers, my motivation for buying and giving away games is to try and give those games more exposure (however slight) because I liked them and want them to do well.
Granted, a good majority of games you'll give will remain that bundle fodder, but you'll reckon on peppering in a GA for a game that you bought specifically to giveaway every now and then. With no discernible cause, really; I think for me it was "Well, the public giveaways area absolutely inundated with the current bundles' games; guess it's up to me!" And then I made a series of giveaways hidden away in these discussions...
I participate here because I've no (")social media(") presence anywhere else, and it's relevant to my lifestyle. Because I don't know how to life.
Perhaps there's an elite; anybody can "ascend" in the community, be it through your giveaways themselves, your comments, etc.
Of course, there's no obligation to give anything away and if someone attacks you for it, they're in the wrong because you're just using the site as it's intended; you've no choice but to be fine with being excluded from (")the better giveaways(") by people who don't appreciate (but have to respect) your selfishness (I don't use it as a charged word, just opposed to "selflessness").
Though this is not to try and use double-think on you to force you into thinking you must giveaway decent games to get a look-in on the better stuff (indeed, for all its vigilance, the community isn't able to see everybody deserving of such privilege (not a sly self-referential remark)) - just my observations from my short time being here.

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This community is about WAY more than winning and gifting games - that's just the surface. Sure, for the majority of registered users that's all it is (well, for the majority it's mostly just about winning games), but that's not the "community".

I'm happy that there's so much diversity of reasons and motivations for people to be here. If you look at my SG profile, you'll see that I win a good deal, but I gift a lot more. If you dig a bit deeper, you'll see that the quality of games I'm gifting is really about the same as the games that I'm winning. Why do I participate like this? Quite simply - it makes me happy. I can spend the same amount of money buying games to give away that I used to spend buying them for myself, taking advantage of cheap bundles and bulk sales, and I end up getting at least that much game value back from my winnings while also making a lot of other people happy.

But, I'll swing back around to my first point. I came here looking for something nice to do with my extra keys, and hey, maybe I'll win something. But the reason I've stayed here and gotten quite involved has really very little to do with games at all - it's because I find the SG community to be a rare gem on the internet. I'd pay to be a part of it, but I don't have to and that's even better. :D

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When I heard about SG for the first time, I was not interested. I did sign-in, but was not active at all for months, not even entering.
One day, there was a spare Steam key from certain bundle, it was useless to me. As we all know, we cannot redeem the same game(license) more than once.
So I came here. I read some documents and instructions, then created first giveaway. When winner thanked me for the game, I felt strange. Well, happy or glad or satisfying, whatever. Then I became active as a casual gifter though I was not active in this forum. I used other community then.

Welcome to the SG. :)

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You are blacklisted

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why?

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just to see his reaction

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Umm .... welcome I guess?

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You shouldn't of posted this dude, a lot of people are going to blacklist you tbh.

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I think people give too much weight on blacklisting. It is more interesting to have open discussion thank lurk in the shadows.

For me, I am here to leech as much as I can and I suck at it.

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Su**er XD hahaha

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Sunder? Suffer? Suiter? I suck at puzzles, too.

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Summer?

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