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Thanks :)

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Not for me D:

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?

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Just one question - why are people picking so expensive cases?

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I'm using this case, it's really cheap, has pretty good air flow, when you add fan to back and front side and seal up the hole in side panel (piece of paper and plaster), air filters, also it's metal, not plastic. Plastic cases just sucks. I don't really care how it looks, but how it works. I'm going to LAN parties and I really don't feel ashamed of this case.

Anyway, maybe now it includes these two fans - 120mm front and rear fans provide the best ventilation while maintain silent cooling solution

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I use this one as well :)

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Loot! I use a cooler master too. Cost me 25 friggin bucks, and it works just fine. I look at my wallet and my monitor more than the box anyway.

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I use one in the Elite series as well, they are very capable cases and definitely worth the great (cheaper) price!

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^ You can find a good one without being raped lol

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Power button has it. That's enough for me.

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I was just thinking exactly the same thing. Seems pointless unless there is some actual functional benefit (related to cooling systems perhaps?).

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From my own personal experience, expensive cases aren't just for good looks, though that is nice :). Having had to deal with lots of cases in my time, the cheapest ones are invariably made out of FUCKING KNIVES. If you're going to build it, and never touch it, cheap may be ok, as long as it has decent airflow and can accommodate everything you want it to. However, if you're going to be in-and-out of it a lot upgrading stuff, make sure you get one with decent build-quality or invest in some bandages. Haven't bought, or had to fix, a cheap case in a long time, so this might be different now.

Also, unless you're a hard-core case-modder, you'll probably change your case only rarely (or perhaps never!). You'll probably change the stuff inside it multiple times before replacing it. If you amortise the cost of the case over it's lifetime, it'll almost certainly be cheaper than anything else in the case.

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Nope, go for a i5 2500K and a p67 motherboard 1156 socket

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Two copies of Deus Ex.

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no eight cores are bad i would go with phenom or a i5 2500K or i7

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Nope, it's an AMD bulldozer. As I remember they're true eight-cores, which means every little core is a single CPU.
Intel is good in its own field. Gaming is AMD, Intel is for the other graphics.

However that PC is too advanced for its time, if we're talking gaming. Games nowadays use CPU more than a graphics card or even the RAM, so if the OP were to wait and only go with the processor he'd save a few bucks by then.

Plus quantic comps are coming.

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shiller... you are wrong. you are totally wrong. both amd and intel work well for gaming. intel has a price premium on their cpu's and their motherboards, also their motherboards are not backwards compatable, so if you have to upgrade your cpu one day you will also have to upgrade your motherboard. i'm using the amd8150 black edition right now and i can tell you it's nice but no game engine in existence will take advantage of those 8 cores right now. he made an excellent choice of graphics cards, which are important for gaming atm. i have a amd 6870 black edition and i really wish i would have gone to the 69 series. im an amd fanboy because i like the value and overclockability of amd products. and you are also wrong about the ram. ram stores your inputs temporarily, so the only difference for gaming would be how long you can play a game until it starts slowing down. so of course it is important but not the flagship computer part for gaming. thats the gpu and games take advantage of everything a gpu has to offer, all the time. youll notice the most difference in games when you upgrade your gpu. sorry /education

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Right now what really takes use of an 8 core CPU, is CAD, 3D software, or heavy multitasking. Its very hard to see a game pushing the limits of an I7 even, thats why some people are recomending an I5 2500K. As far as GPU and RAM though, if you have the money feel free to go out as long as it doesnt bottleneck any other hardware.

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You're Completly wrong
Videogames doesn't require a lot of multicore process, unlike video editing or rendering that needs more multiprocess

Games nowadays use CPU more than a graphics card or even the RAM
Wtf? It's not about which part of the computer it's more required they both are essential. The CPU is the engine of a car and the GPU is the transmission, and everything in that car are indispensable to work

AMD is a cheap car with cheap pieces, Intel is just overpriced but it have the best quality

I will go Intel for CPU and AMD for GPU

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rage on XD lol still say quad core amd

I render videos and 3d models all the time and still prefer an amd quad to a eight core

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cheap eight core

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I laughed.
Bulldozer is a shit and you should not invest. More cores does not mean it's better. Games using CPU? Pftahaha. They hardly use it and sadly my GPU. Actually.. that one made me sad.

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Well, sorry if my old little NVidia GeForce 9600 (1GB) still manages to run the newest games around. Like, any game you can throw at it in max quality.

It might have to do with my 6 cores 3.2GhZ AMD though. Somehow after I installed it everything went better.

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if it were me i'd say this is a pretty great build, but i'd go with a 2TB harddrive, 500GB just isn't enough. and i would also get an aftermarket cpu cooler so that you can overclock the cpus to take advantage of having multicores

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You should take a Phenom II x4 975 BE instead of Bulldozer because it is cheaper and better. Check this!

(Sorry but I don't know how to do clickable links!)

Edit: Fixed

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Thank you!

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With that budget, you'd get better performance and spend less on a 2500k build. Get a 2500k and some cheap(in price) mobo like the Asrock Extreme3 Gen3, can CF/SLI and has all the main features you'd want/need. Would be cheaper and perform better than that build.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=434

Also, you could look into a 7850, they should be ~ the same price as a 6950, and perform better while using less power.

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Yep, I agree, go for this

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Your PC build is a frog?

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My opinion:

  • The graphics card is nice, but I'm not sure than 2GB of video ram is better than the faster card (5870). I'm the owner of HIS 5870, and so far that's the best part in the PC i have (and I don't regret it).
  • SSDs are nice, but you must be aware that the OS takes about 20GB alone, and there are few games that truly benefit from the SSD. (Though there are future improvements for SSDs in Win8)
  • I don't know about the newest AMD, but aren't Intels a better choice performance wise, since the i7/i5 improvements? However, as far as games goes, the speed on the CPU is welcome (therefore the 3.6GHz isn't an overkill - especially with crappy console ports - GTA4 was an example of using RAM, VRAM and CPU more than the shaders)
  • The PSU of 750W is more than enough. I went with 500W, and everything is working smooth on the HD 5870 + i5-760, but I was certain that I won't upgrade to Crossfire in future with my configuration (so didn't need the overhead)
  • 8GB ram is more than enough for the games alone (lots of games doesn't even support over 2GB ram, let alone use it), so 8GB gives you a lot overhead for a while, so you won't have to worry about the memory usage even when running few ram-intensive tasks at once (game + game on background + browser + minecraft server for example :)). You can go with 4GB though and upgrade it to 8GB when you feel you need it.
  • 500GB is quite low, I'd go with 2TB (for me even this is a low). I know the prices of HDD are still high, but you will probably need it.

Overall, I have a similar PC I've build a year ago, and it's serving me well (running on 1920x1080).

  • HIS HD 5870
  • Intel i5-760
  • OCZ Vertex 2 100GB
  • WD Caviar 2TB
  • 2x2 GB G.Skill Eco 1600Mhz, CL7 (low voltage)
  • Cooler Master CM 690 Advanced II (I've really liked this case :P)

The board is ASUS with USB3 and SATA3 support (HDD is running on the SATA3, just because I could, but I regret of not buying an SATA3 SSD :/) - haven't used USB3 yet. The board support only a limited crossfire (x16 + x8), but since I didn't planned to ever go Crossfire with this setting, I took a HD 5870 and just 500W PSU + cheaper board without the dual x16 for Crossfire.

EDIT: About the RAM, I was forced to use the 2GB for a long while, because one ram was faulty, and i was delaying with ordering a new pieces. As far as games goes, it was fine with 2GB ram running Win7 Pro x64, but it didn't had any more ram for Chrome (which is a ram clogger - same as other modern browsers anyway). Not to mention of having trouble running Minecraft and server at once, without the out of ram error, but single-tasking always was fine. Now I'm having 4GB of ram and 2GB spare from the old faulty rams (this one was working fine), but I didn't even bothered with going to 6GB now, since I don't need it.
I'm not doing any video editing or 3d graphic modelling or similar tasks - only gaming.

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1920x1080? what is this 2011? nah, you have a decent rig

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The build is from 2010 and I was upgrading from 1280x800 lappy ^^. And well, technically, even 1920x1080 is too much for me, since I'm sitting like half meter away from my monitor.

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An opinion from a pc shopkeeper:

  • 6950 is outdated since 7xxx series came out last month; i'd go with 7850 - same price, same performance, 70W less power consumption, less heat and more future-proof. You can also look on Geforce GTX 570, depends what you want and need. For eyefinity (gaming on more screens) and raw power: go for AMD; for CUDA and PhysX: go for Nvidia.
  • Bulldozer is a disaster, so rather go for Intel i5 2500k and any Z68 mainboard - benchmark; you can also go for i7 2600k, but the 5-10% performance increase in games isn't worth the higher price
  • never...really..NEVER buy an OCZ SSD, except if you're Chuck Norris or an adrenaline junkie. Each month we get at least 3/4 sold ones back into RMA. Go for Samsung 830 or Intel 320/520, 120gb models - you easly fill 64gb with Win7, Office, Photoshop and 2-3 bigger games; 120gb is also faster since it have double chip density compared to 64gb models.
  • PSU - any 500-550W brand name should do it. I recommend you any Corsair HX or TX since one high current 12V rail is always better than multiple smaller ones. Go for more than 550W just if you plan to use crossfire or sli.
  • take the cheapest 8gb DDR3 (or 16gb to be future-proof since its very cheap right now), speed doesn't matter because on Intel it don't have any effect on performance - speed compare
  • i suggest you to wait with getting a HDD because of high price; then go for WD Black Edition or if you can get a Samsung Spinpoint F3 somewhere (Seagate bought them some time ago); i dont recommend you green editions because they are slow and tend to die fast, blue is something between black and green.
  • i never heared about your case choice, so i cant tell you any opinions about that; our most sold model is Cooler Master HAF 932 btw
  • maybe you forgot (or you don't need) a dvd drive - just take the cheapest one

I hope i helped you somehow

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Well nvidia's new series is supposed to be out soon so I wouldn't even suggest looking at Nvidia 5xx since what they've said and shown from keplar looks far better than fermi.
I've heard that you should always go intel if you're buying a SSD and never OCZ aswell.

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The new GTX 680 is priced at $499 ( and is supposedly upto 50% faster @1080p than the 7970), the cheaper models like the GTX 670 are coming later this year. If you have the cash, sure go ahead. But if you plan to run games at 1080p and want to invest the money somewhere else, then cheaper cards can run most games at that resolution.

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