I have a genuine question about Payday 2...

Playing this game solo or with only 1 friend is not enough. It gets fun as hell when you get a full friend lobby and do shenanigans on it.

IMHO Constant dev and community support I think. Always new DLC and generally solid/fun game. It's not anything special, just the filler waiting game that isn't zombies or pvp and mostly played by people that suck at FPS otherwise they'd be playing CS/CSS/CSGO. xD

I don't understand. I played this game for two weeks, the same maps repetead forever. It's like a Korean MMORPG, you farm the same thing 100 times only to get a better weapon

The devs keep caring about the game. They release a lot of new content (part of them as paid DLC-s of course), and it's overall fun. But with friends only, caus ethat's what friends are for... to play PAYDAY 2. Sometimes it seems like they are just milking the game, but they release a lot of free content still. PAYDAY 2 is a fun game IMO, because it needs teamwork, and co-operation. That's why it' sthe most fun with friends over voice communication etc. Don't worry if you don't like it. For example I can't stand MOBA-s, Grand Strategies (only Tower Defense games can come) and CS, but I do love PAYDAY and a lot of other games. You can't love all games at once.

This is why

Payday 2... the worlds best (and only) bag throwing and drill fixing simulator

I'm one of those who started on Space Invaders and I have 1.5K hours logged on Payday 2 (really looking forward to the Infamy 2.0 update!).

In simple terms, the game 'feels right'.

It feeds my ego blowing away all those NPCs who are almost helplessly trying to get into cover. The satisfaction you feel when you've pulled a friend out of the fire. Or pulled off a heist flawlessly... or had the heist go all kinds of crazy. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qd3Ip5oGYQ ) Trying for those crazy achievements or just hanging around chatting about inane things. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQZONSR-rhg ) Even the NPCs are nicely fleshed out... something about the way they move makes it seem more real (even though the rate at which they get taken out is completely unrealistic) without making them as deadly as you are (ie: all those multiplayer shooters where other players kill you just as fast as you kill them) . It's even better when you factor in that there's no reward to blowing them away (except the feels). The objective is to get away with the money and killing them does not get you any money... taking the time to take em out really just hurts your money/xp gain rate.

'Feels right' usually means that the game gets multiple aspects right and more importantly mixes them together in the right way. Despite the minor game advantages, it is satisfying to use a build that you designed yourself, using talents and abilities that you selected, along with your personally modified gun, mask and load-out. You selected and paid for the assets you will use in the mission... the plan and strategy (and more frequently plan B, C, D.... Z.... that you have to make up when things go wrong...) that you and your friends worked on.

It's a game that's about you, your friends and what all of you want to do.

I tried it too, I was kinda disappointed

I love the feeling of getting a job done clean and proper, plus the challenge of dealing with a horde of gun-toting cops never gets old. And leveling up and putting together a good build feels great. I don't know why I like deep character customization, but I really do. I suppose it's my OCD. Hm.
Pub games can also be quite hilarious. I love hosting games, just to see how many people come in and try to troll. Acting like a buncha dumbasses. lol That shit gives me joy.
Also, what leode said. It pretty much mirrors my own opinions.

And I've always been a fan of FPSs, too. The gameplay just feels right. It's much easier to get the hang of that perspective, as opposed to third-person shooters or action games.

dunno, its fun
in offline or with one friend its not really but when you enter the online its just... fun
many missions and these

Awesome game to play with friends but not so addicting like other games.

If you have some friends to play it with, it's one of the best co-op pick up and play games around. Heist can be as short as 60 seconds or as long as 30 minutes, most levels can be done loud or silently, allowing for multiple ways to go about the jobs at hand. The AI director and RNG system (good or bad), adds some randomness to the levels, so even when you do play the same ones again and again, there are little differences between playthroughs. As long as you don't stick to a certain play style and switch up between which heist you do and how, the game doesn't feel as grindy as it can be. Some of the DLC also helps with the grindfest, allowing for weapons and mask to be unlocked by obtaining achievements and collecting hidden packages for mod sets.

There are other little things I really enjoy about the game, as well as some things I really hate (mostly about the developers, which I have a love/hate relationship with), but I can see how a lot of people would be turned off with the game. I actually know a few buddies who picked it up and just never got into it, all for different reasons. I think the thing that really turns people off the most about this game, the learning curve and the lack of a real tutorial. Starting off a heist you've never done before, not knowing what to do, how to go about doing the things you can do, and the lack of skills/equipment because of being low level, that really turns people away from the game.

If you haven't played it for a while though, you may want to give it a try. The game is very different then when it first came out, with changes to the stealth mechanics, skills being re-worked and swapped with different ones, the addition of the heat system, pre-planning mode, the perk deck system, a new skill tree, and other tweeks to everything.

I have Payday 1 and 2 but have yet to ever try them. I noticed the release of Payday 2 Game of the Year Edition for $19.99. I've already purchased some DLC for it in the past year or so, but I don't know if it's worth the GOTY considering I haven't played either to know if I like them. If I buy all the DLC I don't already own it adds up to $13.28, so I hesitate if it's worth 66% the price of the GOTY just for some DLC - weapon packs and costumes. Maybe just the individual heists.

Any how, I digress. :)

Its very fun, if you play with 3-4 friends, and obviously if most of ppl know how to play, some missions are just go and steal or go and rob, but there is lots that are very fun, I'd say most of them are very fun, no matter if you stealth or directly rob, and devs care a lot about updating game always, they add more new cool stuff, and not of all added stuff is paid, which is awesome, they even make events, like for Christmas, Halloween, etc.

Stealthing a heist imo is the most fun aspect of the game. Problem is you can only do that with a good group of people. Otherwise it's just like every other shooter out there since people just want to spray bullets everywhere rather than use their heads.

I really enjoyed it for a while, then the cancerrous DLC and Overkill's behavior killed it for me. Greedy asswipes.

I played it for a couple hours, also didn't quite quite the appeal.

I liked the first one because i wanted a change of pace. I wanted to shoot people but have it be a secondary objective, you know?
So when i got my hands on payday 2, i got into it pretty hard. I loved the fact that it allowed me to sort of still represent myself in game with the customizable masks. The feeling of pulling off a very difficult heist where everything either goes according to plan, or none of it does at all, is amazing either way. I loved that there wasn't really a contract there that specifically tells you to be a contract killer (at least until the hotline miami DLC where you are instructed to kill the commisar.) You are just a robber/gun specialist/hacker/drill fixer/bag thrower/guy who shouts at people to get the fuck up/twat who steals from the rich to give to himself. And i love that about payday 2. I can agree that there is a ton of DLC for it but they are optional. I guess it just really boils down to your preferences and if you can get matched up with good people when you play, if you don't have enough people or people in general to play with.

I played the first game and found it underwhelming. I expected much more but it simply didn't grab me. It's an all right game, but simply not for me.

I didn't like it first time, but I gave it another shot and when I figured out the whats and hows it turned out to be pretty fun, but only on Overkill difficulty. The first two is too easy and Deathwish is really hard, for me at least.

Also, it's not for everyone. Don't like it, don't play it, simple.

Payed for both games, only have 4hours on them.
I just didnt really enjoy them, not even with friends
I did play with a couple harcore fellows and i was just amazed on how well they played the game, until they kicked me off the team, still, that was probably the best experience i had with payday

I can understand you,I have same feelings.
It's ordinary fps with nothing special, didn't hit my taste.
Or maybe it would, but people are noobs :P

I guess it's the sense of you actually working together with other people for once. Instead of trolling each other in PvP, you can instead, or rather forced, to work together in a PvE game. I also like that Payday 2 have a skill tree in which you can gain skill points after each level. So you can play whichever roles that suits you.

Yeah . same feeling about this fps shooter game !

And your brain is healthy ! don`t worry m8

I got it last Xmas. Played for 2 hours and uninstalled. I like coop games, but this one's boring... I had more fun in Trine 2 with my friend. Or Borderlands, if we're tackling FPS genre. Robbing banks and jewelery stores isn't my cup of vodka...