Either something you gave away got retroactively bundled or set to free aka. zero CV. Or previously some giveaway got wrong value like a bundle from Steam.
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It doesn't have to be a bug. When a game got given away for free that you created a GA for earlier, the CW decreases. And then your level can also decrease if it gets low enough.
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If you create a giveaway for a game and then that game is given away for free in the future, you will not lose any CV. The people that create a giveaway after the game is given away for free will not get any CV, but as long as the giveaway was created before the free promotion was available it will have no affect on your CV.
CV is based on the current US Steam retail price. Your CV will drop if the full retail price of the game permanently drops (temporary sales do not affect CV). The only other reason your CV would drop is if you gave away a game that was free or highly discounted (around 95%) before steamgifts support was able to add the game to the reduced or no CV list. You will temporarily get more CV then you should and then when support adds the game to the correct list, your CV will drop to the correct value.
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Some games from IndieGala, like Eidolon and Puzzle Kingdom, were set to 0 value.
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I still see it (Puzzle Kingdoms) at 14,99€ on steam at regular price, can't understand the logics here of people setting its value to 0 when people may have paid for it.
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ok, i did not know what had value a year, a month, or a day ago could suddenly be valued to 0 retroactively, that's not very fair... Where do you games valued to 0, Puzzle Kingdoms is still at 14,99€ on steam (less presently because of steam seaonal sales) ?
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Mods decided to put all or at least most Indiegala Feudalife drops on the zero CV list retroactively. It's still a work in progress so your real CV might drop even lower.
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Games are retroactively valued 0 only to a date when it was given away for free somewhere. And games get reduced value to the date it was bundled.
If you made giveaway before such date - you are fine. If you made giveaway after such date, you will get reduced CV. It's just fair so people don't exploit free game giveaways and heavily discounted bundles. If you bought a game before a bundle, didn't make giveaway before the game gets added to bundled list - unfortunately bad luck.
at least in general. I'm seeing people mentioning specific games here, so it might be some specific developer or whatever. But in general - don't hope to exploit bundles and free giveaways
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Thank you for this clear explanation. In my case my giveaways were done before the games i offered in giveaways became free or/bundled. I guess it's bad luck. Regarding contributor value, you can get great games for free, AAA or indie games and nobody will say it's unfair when you give them, only when you the giver gain cv from it. Giving no value to all Indiegala or similar websites games, I believe it will have a huge impact on the amount of giveways and users on this website.
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I agree that there are a lot of free great games.. There are also very great indie games worth 5 EUR that could be considered much better then some 60 EUR AAA game (especially these days).. In such a sense points are hardly representative of the quality of game... But I think the system in use is rather good at keeping users in check but still rewarding accordingly.
As for these games from indiegala - I really don't know anything in detail regarding this so can't comment on that. Sorry.
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i not sure but maybe this help u little for check https://www.sgtools.info/sent/Yogzire , this you can see free games or no value games u giveaway 🙏🏻
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It's not fair to get cv for games that got collected for free.
See it from that point.
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Your time has value (hopefully). If I wanted to pump my real CV for 'free' I could have spent that 20-30 minutes a day on some beermoney site doing surveys or whatever, buy unbundled games from my earnings and be way-way ahead compared to giving away reduced CV Feudalife drops. I don't feel it was an unfair way to slowly gain level. If it was such an OP thing, way more people would be playing Feudalife.
But whatever. I just hope mods will apply this approach to all other similar sources if they have decided to go down this route. It will devalue lots of bundles and de-incentivize giving away lots of good bundle games that never were in regular mass giveaways. Perhaps shovelware keys will become even more popular for levelling, dunno.
As an aside I find it a bit funny that this Feudalife situation is basically the reverse of the usual mass-giveaway issues where multiaccounters take many keys (leaving less for others) and think they are doing a service by redistributing them. Here some folks dedicated serious time to 'mine' these keys and they now get a big fat zero retroactively for their efforts. But I guess it's still nice to gobble up these zero value keys here on SG that others have unearthed from IG's shitty minigames.
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Value isn't money.
Do whatever you want....
...but you should discuss the mods decission with the mods and not me because i couldn't change something if i want or not.
Gaffi answered, if i remember correct you, detailed on questions and why he is now active there and weren't before.
Your words sound as it is a new decission that the mods set freebies to free.
I hope too that the mods handle all sources of freebies and all stuff that gets exploited, better sooner as later.
I don't think that much more shovelware for leveling are possible, i have over 13k games hidden on sg :-D [I think thats a lot for my few years here].
If i could, i would set all shady ru shop games direct to 0 cv (alone for the exploit try^^) ... but because i can't i will be never a mod on sg
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Nothing strange. CV decrease all the time :). Sometimes game is marked as bundled or free retroactively (as it is done manually and sometimes with a delay), sometimes base price in official steam shop decrease etc.It is more visible when you already GA many games. For me it happens very often but does not care :).
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I even got blacklisted for sharing opinions here, that's the spirit ! :)
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That's the normal thing on sg.
I got one too for writing my opinion but i will still write my opinions in the future :-D I always say me that they lose more as i :-D
I haven't BL you or one of the other ones that wrote yesterday that they use the feudalife thing on IG
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Well that was a first for me, and certainly not the last, cheers :)
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Everyone gets on blacklists. I'm on 161. Which I admit I won't notice. :P
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Rookie Numbers, come back when you can beat my 366 :-D
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I know it is a joke but ....
Not possible with only 1k space.
I have nearly that ammount and have only lvl5+ on my list + a tiny ammount of special cases (under 20).
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It's the opposite.
It's unfair to get cv for free games and the retroactively reducing only correct that after a ammount X of time.
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Let's assume you buy a unbundled game today and give it away. Then you will get the full cv for it.
Not from interest if it gets bundled later.
When it gets bundled in one week, the date for the bundled (= reduced cv) will be set to that date and will not have a effect for all GAs that were made before that date.
But if someone give a game away that he got today for free and it isn't listed as free, he get cv for it and when the mods then set this game to free, this cv will, retroactively, reduced to 0.
Same situation with a bought game from a bundle that are listed on sg as unbundled. If the mods get aware of the bundle, then the cv will be set ti bundled and if someone got too much cv in the begin, he will be, retroactively, set to the correct cv.
Maybe you misunderstood that before.
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Please define "gift expensive games"... because you absolutely don't need to do that to "level up" here.
I've never had much money, most of my GAs are bundle leftovers and the few unbundled games that I gave away were on sale... and yet, here I am at level 7. You really don't need to buy expensive games... bundles from Fanatical and Humble Bundle are relatively cheap (depending on the tier you choose) and they will give you cv.
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Hang on... by triple A, do you actually mean unbundled games? I'm thinking that's what you meant because so-called AAA games do get bundled too. Call of Duty WWII is an expensive AAA game and it was bundled at HB. Anyway...
Yes, gifting unbundled games definitely gives the most cv on SteamGifts, however, that doesn't mean the amount of cv they earn you will remain the same forever. If their regular price drops, the cv attached to them will drop too. Take Mad Max, for instance. It used to be a $60 unbundled game back in 2015, up until it got bundled in May 2016. Also, its retail price decreased to $20 in 2017. So the people who gave it away before it was bundled received 60 cv out of that GA... buuuut they lost 40 cv when the retail price went down to $20.
You still don't need to purchase expensive games to level up here. Bundle leftovers will do just fine, it's just going to take you longer, that's all.
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The more giveaways you do and the more you create threads and interact with the community, the more blacklists you'll get.
Some people will blacklist others when they "complain" about losing CV or levels.
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relax, most blacklist you'll get are from people who have nothing to offer to you. no friendship, no fun, no wisdom, no giveaways, just absolutely nothing. most don't even know blacklist are for giveaways. i recommend you to not care at all about blacklists. i also recommend go further, like i do, block any communication with them on steam to avoid their cancer anywhere else.
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i recommend you to get used to level decreasement. this happens a lot to old users who gave away enough games just to reach a certain level. games are bundled or tagged as no cv retroactively here, so your level will decrease often, just get used. once you understand how random the bundle list is, you get used to the steamgifts dynamics. this were made to prevent users to abuse the level system. if you really want to reach a certain level, i recommend you to observe more how bundles and cv works. the bundles threads have some awesome info about the cv. once you get everything and put all pieces together, you'll easily increase your level to where you wanna be.
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Buying $50 worth of keys for trash games on some ru shop gives you full CV(and will get you to level 10 eventually) while quality games that were free at some point in the past give you zilch. Anybody thinks there's something wrong?
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I touched on this in another thread, but the idea is that we will get there. Super cheap games should be reduced CV; free games should be 0. I believe we agree on what the state of the system should be. There are a LOT of items in the database that need correcting, and not a very fast way to deal with it.
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Hello,
I wrote a ticket about my problem but i thought it might be useful to share it there too: I was a few days ago at 5.50 level and I noticed it decreased a few days ago to 5.30, then 5.09 without doing anything unusual, just creating new giveways for the community. anyone ever got that bug?
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