$1 Bundles

It is NOT calling out, because he didn't break a rule. So i see no problem with the example (he isn't the baddest one i seen... i took one from the middle/upper middle).
I delete the example when anyone from the support tell me a reason or rule for that.
Waxlor didn't done that... so i think it is ok and i need a example... -i not posted 20.... would be easy alone from the last times of my GA winners....-

Irgendwie muß ich auch erklären was ich meine und der eine ist halt als Beispiel da (es gibt weitaus schlimmere... hab extra einen genommen den sie nicht gleich lynchen^^).

That not all can be handled with the bundle rule is clear, that the rules can't avoid all is clear.
BUT the $1 Bundles getting each month more disgusting then the month before (much too much make it the 10 copies+ way...).

I had from 19 winners 6 that counted in the category of 5-10+ copies of the $1 Bundles. It's not only "sometimes" one. AND in my Thread i use group or sgtools protection with a 0.5 real cv ratio. They go around that 0.5 real cv ratio with there pushed Accounts.
I can raise the real cv ratio but hit then a lot of users that don't do such "optimizing".

I can tell you as a support that as it is, many people already do not understand how CV works.

Ah others seen the "problems" too. Good to know :o)

The one that remove the levels willl be witchhunted... i am sure :-DDDDD

He is one example. I picked one in the middle/upper middle not the worst ones (don't wanted start any witchhunt against the exampled one ... so i decided to take one in the middle).
And sure he breaks no rules (that is the reason why i can make a example) ... but i (and i am not alone) don't like the "account/level pushing with the combination of slip around real cv ratios and other secuirty measures"

You are right with the humble monthly and that is anything that should be changed too.

And ... we base the value of a game based on the completely biased opinion of a group of people ?

What bout niche games that warent really apealing to wide audience , yet ware really good for the target audience ., but the general public hated them ?

Or the so called weeb games which people love to hate on nowadays ?

Yeah....

They are interesting thoughts and it would be great to handle the Shoverware/Archievement Spammer "Games" a other way then "AAA" Games.

But i think your thoughts still needs more clarification of a few things because i see a bit of Bloom3D's thoughts too.
As example what happens to "not very well known games", what happen with "csgo/pubg" (they will raise then in worth to 3000% with all that Csgo/pubg heroes :-DDD -giggling-).
And the Jump&Runs (Platformer) Games are always higher in the ratings (i don't know why). There i seen the next problem with a "equal" rating.

But combine the price with anything else would be great !

The option to block the ones that give a game X 10+ times (but i know would difficult to made it possible to choose that game with a dropdown list or a textfield or anything like that^^) would be enough :o). But we can dream^^

I don't think over "what is in 10 years with the game(s)". I not want only "Game Pearls".
But between normal/middle/OK Games and the Shovelware, Archievement Spammer or complete broken games (that maybe give cards) are very big differences.

In the $1 Bundles can be good/ok games too, so it is hard to judge only by that. But it must be possible to avoid that EXTREME acc. pushing that grows from month to month.

The Bundles sites that say buy 50+ copies of crap bundle X and you get it, much, cheaper don't help too.
It floods sg with crap stuff (i hided in the last week over 300 games without looking under level 2 requirements and only a bit of time).

The most of the users trade the "game pearls" because they get not enough on sg for them.
I think it is too much "crap" on sg and it is supported from the cv system that is at the moment active.

a lot of users

And for my answer a BL .... LOL

I don't speak from ONE Bundle.
I spoke from ALL $1 Bundles (and similar stuff). Because i am not very long into the Bundlestuff an sg a don't known all of them. I know 3 or 4.

Only 80 copies for lvl 10 ? Are you sure ???

80 copies from $1 Bundles (not only that one) is nothing for the ones i seen in the last 2 weeks.

Ps.: The global plan is that i rule the world -MUHAHAHAHA- :-D

I am know for fighting with bad chances too :-DDDDDD -big grinning-

Because a lot don't interested on anything (only a little part look in the discussions and from them 68 hash brown poll votes) and a lot use the $1 Bundle/Software Bundle etc. possibility to push there accounts it is clear that such a poll go in that direction.
But when you look closer on the poll you see that MORE want a change to 0CV or 1% (202) then say "let them exploit" (180).
I think because of that the chances to change anything should be not so small.
[and yes i am a statistic fan]

I don't have anything against the ones that made that in a small size ... give other stuff away too .... really no problem with that but in the last 2 weeks i seen A LOT that only or near only give that stuff out and are level 4 - 6 (so around my level.... and then look into the stuff i gave away... i think not the beaddest.... and then you can realize very clear that anything don't fits -you can take other users accounts as "good" examples too i named mine only because i know what i gave away :o). It should not be seen as i only think on me or my advantages-).

Lol, yes, sometimes the $1 Bundle trains are really painfull. But i don't seen soo much from them so i can handle that ;o)

+1

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure...

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but less bothering means less drama, which means we're not on sg anymore. :>

All can't be changed in one rush.... but a start should be done...

Sorry to say that but NO "it is not easily to rectify this by using things like SGTools". I wrote a comment to knsys about implement a sgtools possibility and bring up a rule that i can use now (that hits very very very much other ones).
Talgaby wrote it for me:
(level < 5.7 and and num_sent 2.25 >= real_sent_cv) or (level >= 5.7 and level < 7 and num_sent <= level 35) or (level >= 7)
It separates into three:
1) under level 5.7 (roughly 400 CV). The average CV per game you gave away must be over 2.25$. This means that you had to give away games with at least a 15-dollar price tag, on average, or had to include some non-bundled games. This is around 0.08 dollars above the average of the best one-dollar bundle.
2) If you are over that level but under level 7, you couldn't give away more than 35 games/level, meaning if you bought the same cheap bundle 10 times or all the cheap-ass junk bundles, you had to grind more games to get there. This way, those who try to maximise CV/bundle at the cost of spamming cheap shit will be excluded.
3) You are over level 7. Not even dropping 10 copies of all 1-dollar bundles can get you that far.

I don't want use such a hard rule that hits a lot of people that i not want hit. I feel not good with it.

Knsys would not implement the possibility and give me other advices for looking at the possibilies in his custom rules.
I need time for that so can't say if he give a advice that is better then talgabys first thoughts.

And yes i started BL the winners of my GAs that level up only/near only with $1 Bundles AND give a lot of copies.
It hits 6 from 19 winners last time.... and that bring me to the fact that much much more with that "problem", at least for me, joined my GA's.

Stop using my brain is not possible at my side....

True...

Then to think of the time these ones are taking to create each and every GA... that is commendable in itself.

It’s actualyy a nice way to allow those who live on limited income to become a solid community giver without making them hurt financially...

Then too once they get that extra level(s) for making those cheaper GAs they still have to spend a lot of time entering soooo many GAs to win back anything.

For those that invest all the time making these GAs... we should be commending them instead of finding fault.

exactly

No, using sgtools against the entering of the extrem $1 Bundle givers is not possible. Or at least not in any way i know (and i had help from talgaby that should be seen as a sgtools "expert").
A 0.5 real cv ratio is a joke for them and raising it hits only the ones that give normal bundle stuff.
The the group exists that problem too (mostly bigger there).
Whitelist helps, right. Jigidi Puzzles are good thoughts. Thanks

Say one that give at least 6 copies of the last $1 Bundle (i was too lazy to look at the older things) .... should i wonder why ? No... happy night

Give only a few games is very ok too. Tremor Games too. Buy one or 2 times each $1 Bundle is ok too. But ONLY buy the $1 bundle stuff and nothing else -to push the lvl and raise the cv/real cv very much- is, for me, not ok. I don't want that this people see the spacecat at the end of my GA's and i want a possibility to avoid that.
When anyone don't have the money or possibility to buy other stuff it is better then nothing but from ALL that i seen in the last 2 weeks only one had under 1000 games at steam (most of them had 2000+). All of them trading games, all of them play much csgo/pubg (only as info of the stuff i seen at the first few seconds). I think with 1000+ games should it be possible to give away a few games that are not from the $1 Bundles. Other Bundle games costs, partly, cents too.

I gave this game 1x out ... so i am save :-D

I didn't think that lower the ammount of $1 Bundle (and similar) gives would be only good for me.