People overpricing

That's pretty common to be honest, but it all depends on which people you are trading to.

About as silly as people trading cards 2:1.

If they decline your first offer, you can either raise your offer, stay firm or walk away. Best case for the seller, you increase your offer or at least stay firm so there is no reason to accept the first few offers. Chances are you're not going to walk away since you initiated the trade and obviously have interest in whatever it is.

There is the chance you find someone who simply has extras and just wants to trade. If you're looking at someone who has tons of games to offer, then chances are they're doing more than just getting rid of extras.

I see guys like you popping up in trades all the time, and it's the same misconception over and over again.
If you're going to trade for a game you have to understand 1 thing, the seller might have gotten it from another source then that 1 recent sale
Just because a key for a game was a few bucks on nuuvem or amazon recently does not mean the trader selling the game got it from there, in fact there's barely anyone selling keys from retailers on SG, most people just buy some games during sales on steam and then add a few bucks onto it depending on how rare the game is in the trading community.
Sure there's the occasional guy who has no idea what his stuff is worth so he sells it either for way too much or way too cheap, but generally it's safe to say that almost everyone has about the same price for the same games especially when comes to really popular games like BL2.

It's a bit odd to expect people to sell you a game for a cheaper price then they paid for it themselves, that's also probably why you're getting rude responses from some traders (those traders that you called "stupid" in an earlier post) they just don't feel the need to explain to you how this works since you seem to assume they're greedy right away anyway.

just look for another trader. what's the big deal?

I added a dude for Starlaxis Supernova Edition yesterday and he pointed out straight away that he wanted 7$ worth of Steam gifts for it. 0.0

[quote]You go try make a deal with a person you are giving alot more what the game is actually worth but the person refuses because his game is still too expensive...[/quote]

So how much do you think BL2 is worth? maybe the problem is how much you evaluate the game.

It's really much of how much you value the item and how much profit they wanna make. If he finds your offer ridiculous he's just offering you a ridiculous counter proposal. Or if he's a guy who only goes with keys but you offer him cards/gems, he maybe doesn't want to tell you no directly and hope you just renounce trading with him.
When you're often trading and specifically just ask for keys but there's people coming and trying to explain to you how gems are so much better than keys or convince you of accepting their cards or whatever they're offering, sometimes it's just faster to tell them an absurdly high price rather than declining politely X times before they give up.

Good example is the stuff from the Origin bundle, people bought (some people bought hundreds) them for lets say 0.20 eurocent (I think it was even less), now go on the steamtrades section and see how much people want for example Red Alert 3 - Uprising or Dead Space.

There was once a guy who was trying to sell me The Witcher 2 for 3 TF keys. I told him to fuck off ^^

Someone told me 5 keys for Doom Classic Complete. So later i bought the entire doom series for $6.

The worst is trying to find Batman Arkham City/ Asylum that isn't for an arm and a leg. The cheapest I could find was like a tf2 key a piece I think but they were in a bundle for less than a buck for Asylum and City was in the second tier...

You cant call everyone a "real" trader that is trading on sgtrades...have some experience too, last one is a bit disappointed...got in contact for a game i liked to have and wanted to touch money, cause i have lots of unbundled Steamgifts in my inventory...so i talked with her about a deal..she said she will think about it..and after 2 days and no response..i ended up buying the game myself...was tired of waiting...yeah i know ppl want to make a bit extra cash when they trade, but i must say some ppl are real dumb and think they have the holy grail, just because some ppl are interested in one of their items...

I agree. For instance, Mortal Kombat Komplete and Injustice are (not sure if sale is over now) $4.99 USD on Steam, but throughout the sale people were selling them for 3 keys ($7.50 USD).

I also hate the opposite of this though. If something WAS on sale but it is no longer on sale, then why shouldn't the price go back up eventually? For example, if I bought something cheap (but it can no longer be bought for that price), I shouldn't have to sell it to you for the SAME EXACT price as it was during the sale. I still have people asking me to sell them the Nuuvem Lego keys for like 4 ref each. That may have been fine when they were on sale, but the cheapest they come out to now (Steam sale) is like $5 USD each.

Other factors I take into consideration are how often its been on sale, and for how low. But that's just me. I always find it odd when people are asking for 5-6 keys for Payday 2 when it has been as low as ($3.50 on Nuuvem) and like ($5.99 on Steam). But that is just my opinion.

Anyone who quotes store prices when it comes to trading/giveaways is an idiot (unless the game is brand spanking new).