When I have been organizing some giveaways, I found some people giving identical sentences throughout multiple giveaways. Some of them have created their own giveaways, most never created any, only receiving them and robotically repeating sentences.

I am starting to suspect that some of the so-called "users" might be bots.
Before if you dismiss me as a budding lunatic, there is a credible study which estimates that more than 60% of web traffic come from AI bots.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/01/bots-bots-bots/515043/

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Should we ban users if it is suspected of being a bot?

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Yes, sir!
Don't bother.
I don't think that it's a thing in the first place.
No, creating bots is a right.

i always give thanks when I win a giveaway, I do say thanks for joining only if the GA is a part of an event or if it's a game from my wishlist or a crazy-good-rarely-given-away game

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is thank you becoming a "bad word" these days??
sometimes i think today standard have become reversed
i still say thanks IF i win (unless creator say otherwise)

as much it's annoyed you (by getting thanked and more counter in your inbox), you can write "pls dont say thx" and that's enough
if they still do and suspected a bot, just blacklist them
suspending is too much

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"as much it's annoyed you (by getting thanked and more counter in your inbox), you can write "pls dont say thx" and that's enough"

It never is. I've tried that, still get a similar amount of "thanks" spam when I've done that compared to when I write nothing at all.

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Maybe please doesn’t work, but if you say „generic thanks = blacklist”, it tends to work quite well in cutting down the number of messages.

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I get the impression that most of the people who spam "thanks" or similar simply don't read the description. Heck, I get the impression that most people don't read the description, going by the number of times I've written something along the line of "Winner, write a message after the giveaway is over and I'll give you a key for a DLC for this game" and the winner has not grabbed their free DLC...

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I always said thank you before, but then people here decide to attack people doing that and blacklisting i stop, feels bad not saying thanks for the oportunity anymore. But i always say thanks if i win, something that i dont always receive when they win my giveaways...

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Yea, it's kind of a sad situation.
I did a high level public giveaway for an unbundled game recently and only 6 out of the over 700 people that entered left a comment, was kind of discouraging. With Whitelist-only giveaways I've normally gotten a significantly better response.

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There are people on both sides of the fence on this one. Some get upset if you DO thank them (for the giveaway, this isn't about when you win), some get upset if you do NOT thank them (again, for the giveaway itself, not about winning). As I mentioned slightly further down, when I was new I didn't know anything about it, and though it was a nice gesture to say thank you. Then I started doing giveaways myself, and when I would only be gone for a few hours and then log in and have 25 messages in my inbox, all just saying "Thanks for the giveaway", but I still have to go through them all to make sure none of them are important (like, "Hey, I won this GA but the key didn't work"), that can be a bit annoying. I personally would prefer people not thank me for just posting a GA, but I don't punish them for it (for example, blacklist them, as some people are suggesting).

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So im gonna get banned for saying thank you then? No thanks lmao.

Sure there is bots, but bots are everywhere these days.

Rather add an captcha or something like that.

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there is a credible study which estimates that more than 60% of web traffic come from AI bots.

The study says 52%.

Hitting the "Mark as Read" button is pretty easy (perhaps I'll write a bot to do it for me), so I don't care who comments what.

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just create high level giveaways. you will filter out 95% of all bots.

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I am starting to suspect that some of the so-called "users" might be bots.
Before if you dismiss me as a budding lunatic, there is a credible study which estimates that more than 60% of web traffic come from AI bots.

LOL!
Paranoid much? Tinfoil hat must be on too tight & restricting blood flow to the brain.

Doesn't mean everyone is a bot.
Most users copy & paste their replies. Saves time.

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When I was new, I saw that people were asking people not to say thanks unless they win, so that's what I do, but it wasn't until I started making several of my own GAs that I found out just how ANNOYING it is to log in after only a few hours and have 25 messages, and all of them are "thanks for the GA", but I can't just mark all messages read, I have to look through all 25 to make sure there's nothing important (for example, "Hey, I won this GA but the key didn't work"). However, I'm not sure how you would go about detecting whether it's a bot or just somebody with no originality. For example, when people thank me for winning a GA (not for entering it), I usually respond back congratulating them... however, I recently noticed that like 90% of the time the message is exactly the same (even though I typed them each, at completely different times), and sometimes the only difference is whether I said "Grats on winning" or "Congrats on winning".

I do use the "Autojoin for SteamGifts" add-on (in fact, that's how I found this place, I saw the add-on, was like "What's that?" and came to check it out), but I ONLY use it for the "infinite scroll" (no more click next page, wait for it to load, etc), and the part where it moves the big green Join button to the front page. There are certain GAs I know for a fact I want to enter, so I like not having to enter the page to join it. If there's any description, it'll also get shown on the front page, but only AFTER I click Join. Then I have the ability to read it and choose to unjoin. When I'm unsure whether it's something I want (or I DO know I do NOT want it, and want to block it), I still need to open the page for it.

I did see in the options for that add-on that you can set it to automatically add a thank you message of your choice when you click the join button, so that's at least one source of the spam comments. Fortunately, I never activated it (and even if I had, the first time I read a description saying "please don't thank me" I would have turned it off), but I can see how new people wouldn't know any better and think they're doing a good thing by thanking people. It (normally) still requires a minimum of "human interaction" (at the very least, they need to click the green Join button)... however, there IS an option to automatically join certain types of GA (for example, anything you have wishlisted on Steam), but it also says right next to the option that this can cause your account to be banned, so anybody who uses that option has no excuse if they do get discovered and banned. That one, I 100% agree people should be banned for, but I'm a bit mixed on the "auto thank" option.

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ESGST has a bunch of stuff to make things easier. It's not a bot. But I do have it set up so that when I mark a GA as "Received" it automatically pops up a window where I can enter a comment on the GA, I also have it set up so I can pick from a multiple-choice menu what comment to post "Thanks", "Thank you", etc.

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Idk, I always make sure I say anything but it. Like make it a conversation about it or about them. While adding your thanks. It is kind of like starting a conversation without saying how are you 😂

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-----Than-k---you---ERR---Bleep------Bloop

LMAO

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I remember I used to say "thank you" or even "hvala puno" (that I liked much) just like a bot. Why? Well, I was just reading what other people used to do, it was just like netiquette for me, so i tried to adapt myself to the context. Months after I discovered about existence of bots, that I never even tought of.

So, no, I would never ban someone for that. Like for how the law works (or should work, imho) IRL: it is better a free guilty, that an innocent in prison.

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For gratitude, I always whitelist the giver and say thanks and inform that the key works if I win.
Being notified over and over while GA is open is odd actually, since there is the number of comments in the created GA for the giver to read if he wants.

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Depends a lot. It could be dangerous(i mean, banning people wrongly).

SG can be tricky. Some years ago there was a wave of people who blacklisted whoever didnt coment, then later a wave of people who blacklisted anyone who commented. I recall at one point i just stopped caring.

Nowadays i only comment/thanks when i feel like it, and its rare now for me to copy paste but i have done so at least once past year im sure. At one point i when the whole blacklisting for comments/no-comments was running i was pasting messages left and right.

Also at one point i was using a signature in my comments, some emoji-ascii thing, wich ended up making a lot of thanks looklike copy-paste i guess.

I dont paste any thanks anymore but i cant help but imagine some do

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thank you XD, it`s kinda annoying

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i mostly just write one thankyou and copypaste it if im entering more than one raffle, i usually then write another thankyou, but i am not very creative with different ways to thank someone in a language i'm not the master of ;w;

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The important thing here is that if you are entering 5 or 6 GAs created by the same user at the same time, just thank them in one. Then they won't get 5 or 6 notifications for the same thing.

That's what most of the complaints are about. If I say "Thank you Pestarzt for all the GAs" at least I am acknowledging that I entered more than one without spamming you.

One could just hit "mark as read" and not read them, but always afraid to miss something important. I know I have missed some comments from people in my GAs who were asking about something specific because I had maybe 70-100 Spam messages. I would only see them maybe days later when sending keys to winners.

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i do my best to not spam anyway. when i was around before, people blacklisted you if you commented on their giveaways

but i am always very happy to get any comment in any of my giveaways

so i am very confused as to what i should do. i will get people angry if i dont thank them for entering, and i will get people angry if i thank them anyway

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I usually only thank when I win. That strikes a good balance between showing gratitude vs spamming every giveaway entered.

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ngl it gets spammy at times but i can't blame people for being polite

an alternative solution could be just adding a thank you button/widget, similar to those social media 'like' buttons.

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I feel like thanks is unnecessary (just bc of sheer number of giveaways here, it's just not practical) and does come across as a bot (yeah, dude, I don't think you just manually typed 58 identical comments in the span of 1.8 seconds) - unless you won of course. But I do try to leave a relevant comment if the GA host is asking a question or otherwise initiates a discussion in the GA description.

Also you can always do forum giveaways with masked links, or puzzle giveaways, or whatnot

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A thanks button would end all this nonsense :)

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i think my way works pretty well, no unnecessary thank yous :)

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On some days, I just don't have the time to write whole sentences that are related to their questions. So I write a thank you or use my pinned messages (WIN+V on Windows) and I just copy and paste that. People write to thank you robotically because as that being the case, they don't just want to ignore your giveaway and drop you an act of appreciation.

You may think they are bots, but if you get to inspect their accounts it does take some time to join giveaways. I personally am in love with my new ESGST tool that simplifies my work 10x faster.

Don't take the thank you personally, people just feel that they are ungrateful if they just joined and said nothing. If you reply to them and they don't engage in a conversation, blacklist them if you must, but yeah. That's just my opinion. 😄

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fwiw, I initially misunderstood on the Create a New Giveaway page, "You're able to create up to # additional gifts based on your giveaway feedback." to mean that I needed to leave more comments on other people's giveaways before I could create more of my own. This led me to spamming thanks for a few days before I realized my mistake, which likely resulted in my first handful of times being blacklisted.

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If often thanks people that do really big giveaway for games with high value and in my wishlist i will 100 % keep for myself if i have them (Chronicon / A Hat In Time / Crash / Spyro ..) [Only 1 Times if the creator create multiple ''big giveaway'']
Also rethanks people that make discover some good game that i never hear about, and maybe never hear about without a people give a key for it on sg.

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