No steam keys
Steam store ----> https://store.steampowered.com/app/618970/Outcast__Second_Contact/
Limited Time Offer Ends November 24 at 10 a.m. Pacific time
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Great, was close to buying it from the steam store a few times
The best part is, if it was another mistake from HB, i already have it installed
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I actually bagged the gog version a couple of months back. i'd bag it if its cheap enough, but your mileage may vary depending on taste for older games.
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It plays fine but I wouldn't recommend it if you care about achievements at all - it's a nightmare to 100% complete because of achievement bugs and because it's so easy to fail an unrepeatable quest. I think I remember reading a quote from one of the devs that they were going to go back and redo a few things after the release of Second Contact but that never happened.
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I really enjoyed the game. Never played the old version.
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lol, madjoki, it feels like almost every comment I've ever seen you post was something helpful or informative, so seeing this was a surprising and funny departure from the norm.
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Yes, though I wonder if the download links continue to work if you store them locally e.g. in a text file or browser bookmark.
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maybe, maybe not - it has the usual "must redeem by" for when they give keys, but... my free copy of outlast from last year still allows the drm free download.
considering humbles recent "mistakes", prob best to download asap to be sure - even if this is an advertised campaign freebie.
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"Immediately after 10AM Pacific on November 29th, the download will magically vanish"
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my Warhammer space marines key disappeared after the time limit and was only a few hours short of entering the key, I was bummed and pissed
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You just copy the key somewhere else before it disappears. In most cases they didn't revoke them
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There's a torrent file download option. Maybe that will allow you to download it after the link has disappeared.
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Gagh! Well, hopefully its a common enough issue with a workaround
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Cheers, Space Chimp! Hopefully HB won't reach into my external HD and rip the download away out of regret later.
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Well, but you'll download the thingy and save for later on HD or DVD or whatever... youknowwhatimean
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Ha-ha-ha!
That's what PC games used to be in the past. You bought it, you owned it, you wrote/burned it to your 1.44 diskette/CD, and played it whenever the F you wanted to, without any DRMs.
Good times...
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DRM-free is DRM-free. Piracy is piracy. In theory making the file available after the deadline would pretty much be a grey area, as long as the file remains untouched (like the original ZIP it is in right now) and the official HB tracker is used via bittorrent. But if you for example unpack it and make it available that way, it becomes piracy, no matter if it's DRM-free.
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Yeah, torrent makes it weird. GOG doesn't have (AFAIK) torrents, so even if it's DRM-free, you can get it from them, or through... less legal means. With HB it would be questionable if the .torrent file is their property and sharing it is illegal, or how legal is if I'm accessing a game after the deadline through the .torrent file they provided , so I kinda access it past the date they made it available.
Then it's possible that they will really just remove the claim page option, and the DRM-free download stays forever. I downloaded it anyways, just in case. Better stash it :3
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Well, iirc they could change their tracker announce with one click, so the peers wouldn't find each other anymore, thus making a download via torrent void. Then they only need to delete the file from their server and the ddl option is gone too. But if they don't do either of that, it would probably be a grey area after the deadline. Personally, i wouldn't mind if they gave away Steam keys instead, since i'm always low on free disk space and you know, from Steam you can download whenever you want.
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So the torrent's creator is and will have an option to disable it anytime? ( I wrote it in another comment, I just know a bit about torrent, this is a new info for me)
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Not completely disable, since there still can be DHT client to client connections but you would probably find less peers.
Also i'm pretty sure you can find the same file later on other places, not so official. :D
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People associate torrents with piracy, but the technology was originally developed as a way for websites to distribute large files without it taking too much of a toll on their bandwidth. While it proved to be an effective way of distributing pirated software, it still has it's legitimate uses.
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it's almost like the same message is not in the discussion body, right?
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They suggest you downloading it through a bittorrent client. I'm not super familiar with how torrent works, but I think keeping the torrent file will still give access to the download because of the peer to peer connection to everyone else who downloaded it. I may be wrong and they will wipe the internet afterwards, or release skynet, who knows
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Nope, unfortunately. The torrent marked as private, so DHT/PEX disabled and their tracker is the only way to keep it up (does not apply to torrent clients which don't respect "private" flag though). So shutting down tracker support they can effectively shut down the torrent.
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Thank you Sachys. A wishlisted game, it's a pleasant surprise.
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I have to wonder why they choose to distribute the game like this instead of generating keys on steam. Isn't it supposed to be part of the steam service to generate as many keys you want with no added cost? This just seems way less convenient unless they are betting on people buying a steam copy as well.
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Hum... maybe that's their way to say "fuck you" to resellers?
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Yeah, this seems like the most likely explanation to me. Oh well, it will probably end up in a bundle at some point anyway
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No longer, if a game doesn't sell, VALVe will not grant keys being generated. It all makes sense, they would only land on some shady grey market site. :D
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I'm pretty sure this game does actually sell through or do you have diverging information?
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Just check on https://steamdb.info/app/618970/graphs/
Doesn't look like it sold that much, very low all-time peak and under 20.000 owners.
It's not cheap for what it is, imo. Probably that is why it didn't "sell through".
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Surely 20k owners make it qualify as a game and free key generation through which is what's of concern :)
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It says 0-20000, not 20000. it may aswell just be 5000. The only way to find out is ask the publisher in this case, that made the decision.
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Ah, seems I read that part a bit too cursory. Still, I have a hard time imagining this game not qualifying as an actual game
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What i initially wanted to write is that VALVe no longer generates keys in huge batches like they did in the past, since there was too much abuse. They pretty much did that when Greenlight was still a thing with the bunchloads of indies, nowadays it's even more. So a game that doesn't sell, won't get batches of keys. I just can't give any numbers but i remember it was like 1000$-ish to count as a game, i'm referring to the "Steam is learning about this game" thingy. Also another possibility is that the publisher simply thought that the Steam version is superior to the DRM-free one, since it has full SteamWorks integration and they decided in favour of the DRM-free one in hopes of getting a few more sales on Steam.
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in hopes of getting a few more sales on Steam.
Yes, this seems like a likely motive to me as well
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Maybe it has something to do with the Steam regulations when they have to offer similar (free) discount in the client as they did on an external site. From HB's side I could imagine generating traffic only to their page (afterall, they are a store as well), or from the developer's side that they are pro-DRM-free.
edit: also no way to fill up gray market sites with keys for it if there are no keys generated at all. Should have thought about it sooner.
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Maybe but there have been a lot of other games given away as free Steam keys without being free on through Steam store itself so it seems unlikely. Also, It is actually possible to distribute DRM-free software through Steam so I don't see that as a likely explanation either, particularly as distributing a key would generate traffic just as well as sharing a download link.
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Simple: game is in steam sale at 75% off. They can give away a drm free copy, and not impact sales too badly due to all the people with the "no steam no buy!" mentality. others may still pick it up on steam or another platform later (especially if it gets an update - and with the absolute lack of in game options, it needs one badly).
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Why are you even commenting? Go and BUY something. BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUY
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Not that anyone was asking but I got two games earlier this week
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Regions Of Ruin looks pretty interesting, I hope you'll enjoy them!
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Indeed and I hope I will as well. I'm not having very high hopes of ever getting around to playing these titles though since I tend to spend a lot of time with most of the games I end up playing and my backlog is already bursting with untouched classics.
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This looks like a good game, am downloading it right meow. Wish I didn't have a slug-fast Internet speed though.
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if u download it before offer ends, than the download will be available forever?i.e. if i change my pc i can download it again 6months forward?
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Then forget about in a day or two to end up buying it on Steam down the line anyway :P
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Or even better, just download the HB torrent file instead, and then grab it later whenever you wish : ]
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Assuming the torrent connection isn't a private/exclusive link, that will still expire and you won't be able to ;)
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Not even worth going through the trouble of adding to your account. If the download is gonna disappear, just imagine you got it for free and when you want the game, get their .exe from... other places.
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It amazes me that here and on Steam some people actively complain about DRM being missing.
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Can't speak for others, but I just like to have all my games on one place. Plus Steam is simply convenient when it comes to keeping track of your games :)
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just add it as a non steam game and launch it from steam
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It really shows the value of games that they rather don't have the game without it being in an organized list on Steam, than enjoy it being free and actually play it. It's not even about the games anymore.
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we should consider ourselves lucky it don't come bundled w/ Denuvo, going by Bigben's track record. but yeah, ppl complain about weirdest of things. . .
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Damn, no Steam key :( Game looks interesting though, I'm gonna give it a try, even though I almost never play games outside of Steam :)
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Currently free on humble!
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/outcast-second-contact
"The redemption deadline is November 29th, 2018 at 10:00 AM Pacific. You have 6 days left!
Immediately after 10AM Pacific on November 29th, the download will magically vanish as if it were just a figment of your imagination, leaving this cryptic message behind in its wake."
Downloads no longer available.
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