I'm not gonna lie. This is a hard thread to make. Let's open with a giveaway, for old time's sake, and to start on a lighter note. No CV, no rules, anyone can enter. Now, let's get down to it. Please read it all carefully before you comment.

I love this site. I started off with a "hey, free stuff!" mentality, but quickly discovered the community. I still remember my first giveaway and the colossal disaster that turned into. I still remember my first puzzle, the first time I won, the first time I met quite a few of you who I'd later consider my friends. I still remember the first time lokonopa cryptically messaged me and I knew what he was asking. I still remember being made a chat mod. I love that chat. The members have changed over the months, like they have here, but I enjoyed being in it, I enjoyed keeping it clean. I remember advising cg on my opinions of who has it in them to be mods. Those opinions still hold true. Then, I left.

For obvious reasons, I don't regret that. That was the happiest time of my life and I'm now engaged. The problems started when I came back. Six months gone, even with frequent check-ins, and the site had changed. I missed a lot of people I thought where major parts of the site's community leave. I missed a lot of policy changes, new people come in, new groups live and die and live again. But the longer I tried to fit back in, the more I had to force that fit, the more it felt like pushing a square block into a circular hole.

I hate this site. I feel like a lot of the people that held the true spirit of it together have left it and there's nothing but a few of them left, in the midst of CV complaint threads and begging and general pointless spam. There's been disagreements, both with you guys and with the other moderators. Most of them have been minor, some of them have been major. I've had disagreements with the admin on numerous topics, a lot of them related to the abilities of the mods to do our jobs well and suspensions. cg is far, far more lenient than myself. Maybe he's right. Maybe that time I spent trying to clean up SteamTrades, where I had to make a hard and brutal line you do not cross, ever, to get anything done on it, poisoned my ability to work on SteamGifts. Maybe they need a different touch and I lost that touch and haven't been able to get it back yet. I don't know.

Moving on to a personal note right now: when I left was the happiest time in my life; now is probably one of my lowest. The site staff are aware of it and certain contingency plans were put in place. I've been constantly depressed since I was a child in various strengths and I'm currently in the middle of a seriously deep depression. Every day is a struggle to wake up, I'm perpetually fatigued, very little to nothing feels truly fun any more, I fake a lot of smiles, laughter, and lie about it when asked. At various points in the last few months, I've been the closest to suicide I have been in years.

I love this site. It wasn't as severe then, but I was still depressed when I first joined. I'm not going to lie: this site has kept me alive. Modding this site, helping people with their issues, being a part of the community has given me a reason to get up in the morning. I have sacrificed so much of my time here, I didn't even have time to game most days, I forgot to eat or sleep and I didn't even feel bad about that, I was doing good work (hell, a couple of times, I even sacrificed time with my fiancée to work through a problem someone was having, though, yes, I felt bad about that one). But the returns nowadays are dwindling. It's not as much fun any more. Lately, it's been a chore. I check support, scroll through the tickets, and move on, answering a couple at most. I check the forums and feel like I see nothing but spam and complaints and rulebreaking and just general annoyances. I've tried taking a small week or so break, get my head in gear again, but something always drags me back in. When I'm not apathetic, I'm angry and I'm sure the longtimers here have noticed that I am far more aggressive than I used to be, even when I try my utmost to rein that back in and I truly have tried.

Am I doing good any more? Is this worth my time and effort? Is this doing more harm than good to me? These questions have been going in circles in my head for a long time now. I have no answer. My love of this site is greater than the frustrations of this site, far greater. So I put these questions to you, the community, the reason why I love this site. It's not the gifts. It's not the puzzles. It's you. Am I doing good any more? Am I worth your time and effort? Am I doing more harm than good to this site, to this community? This has nothing to do with any one incident, but a continuing trend. I love this site and I love this community and I want to do right by you.

Give me your thoughts. Is it time for me to step down, is it time for me to go? Based on the Wikipedia process I took this idea from, this is non-binding. I reserve the right to ignore everything anyone says and continue onwards, but I value your thoughts, all of them. I may or may not reply to individual comments, but I will read all of them. This community is truly important to me and, regardless of our differences in opinion, I respect you all and thank you for my time here so far. It has been truly great.

Moderators, I've made a support ticket as well. Please post in-depth analyses there. Thank you.

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if a site ever gets to a point where it is affecting your personal life, honestly just forget the site. It cannot be important as your real life in terms of priorities. If you get over what's bothering you IRL, then you can start worrying about other people and helping those on the internet.

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Go on, kill yourself, whatever. Tried that once and it is overrated for sure.

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disgusting

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I think he's sharing his firsthand experience and advising that only an idiot would kill himself.

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Yep, suicide is easy. When you don't fear much it's even easier. Living when you don't see the purpose and don't want to is the hard way. Thinking about ppl around you helps and sometimes is just everything you need to continue the struggle.

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Feels bad man

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:(

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Tagged and ignored. Welcome to the blacklist.

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Man up, bitch! slaps Jade

Snap out of it! slaps Jade again

The site needs its Hammer to deal unforgivingly with all the little babies and scammers that permeate the site. All the people complaining about your bedside manner ... that works in customer service in he real world. But in the real world, you're typically with the parents and not directly with the pre-pubescent shits themselves.

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im new to this site(3months) and i dont have a lot of time to read/write on all of the forums treads, but i've taken the time to read your story and even not personaly knowing you i have to say something and im sorry if i offend you by saying this, but i think that you should see a doctor because of the mood changes, you could be bipolar there are some online tests but you can/should seek professional help. i have a family member that is bipolar and i see this mood changes constantly and the lack of interest for things that a few moths where "the best thing on earth" and now nothing matters to her.. again im sorry if what im saying offends you in any way.. just get better and if you have to make a new path for your future , make it and dont overthink about the past.

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How about you get together with the other mods and go on strike. Demand higher pay, better hours, & more appreciation.

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We love you, Jade (in a not-so-homo way)

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Honestly, I'm not gonna say anything new that hasn't been said already, but if that's how you feel deep down in you, then leave, and move on. Some things don't last forever, but then again they were never meant to. If there is one thing that comes first is you and your well being, not the forum or the community. Take care of yourself, Jade, SG will always stay in your heart and will survive on its own, but it's important that you do as well. From what I see you've done a lot already for the website. And you should do what you enjoy. :)

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What we seek, we never have. What we deny to ourselves, never leaves us completely.

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Jade...

"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part." - Detective Somerset played by Morgan Freeman.

Yes, this site is getting more chaotic each day. We have people come and go, we have hordes of spammers coming daily, swarms of trolls descending from troll mountain hourly. But as you said, this site is one of the few beautiful places left on the internet.

Everybody should keep fighting the good fight, but nobody is required too. Or share the load with those who you deem worthy.

And Everything's alright

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You're one of my personal favorite parts of the site. I would miss seeing your posts, but I understand if it's healthier for you to leave.

I'm personally on the side of being strict (not harsh) about broken rules. This site would be much less of a mess and have a much better tone overall if people with bad intentions and people who didn't know/understand the rules were simply suspended (or in worst-case scenarios, banned.) That's not about negativity - it's about keeping negativity out.

That said, not all of the rules are clear, and some of the ones that are clear are still interpreted by some mods as they see fit, which might be part of why some of them see a need to be lenient.

Anyway, I hope you feel better and live well. Do what's best for you. We're just a bunch of people on a website who can be happy without it - though it can certainly improve a day sometimes.

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The rules part I agree with. Maybe there should be a revamping with better clarification on things.

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The FAQ needs to be written from scratch, even if no rules change at all.

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Every mods can create her/his own rules even it not be written on FAQ. So, this can make members community hard to follow they rules.

On my case, i didn't break the "chat rules" but still got suspended, re-rolled & still being banned on chat too :3

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Reported for begging for us to give a shit.

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Reported for regifting your wins and being a dickbag.

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haha! Nice one Bobo:)

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Awesome!

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LOL! Now that's the kind of comments I love to read from both Jade and Bobo. I'm gonna miss you Jade if you go but I'd prefer to know you're healthy and happy somewhere else than in here and depressed. (Although in here and happy would be very nice)

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ownage.

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LOL

Two thumbs up. )

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You know first I will say I have not liked some of the ways you've handled things. Like posts you've made in the forums or how you've handled situations. As a say "employee" of SG you should never cuss, yell, or call people names. It's just not proper business etiquette. Yes I understand this is not a proper business or the same as a store but it does reflect on the site.

I know there are idiots on here just like everywhere else we go but with you being part of the SG team you should be more professional in the public areas of SG. What you put out is what you get back. If you want people to respect you than you need to show respect back even if some don't do it. How you handle things will be what impresses other people and will make things easier for you.

Take Bobo, he's a great guy, liked by many and does his job respectfully. I do understand it may be stressful at times but that's when you take a break. Play a game, turn of the PC, go outside for a walk and just enjoy life. I really love this site and was glad I found it because I've made a ton of friends on here and who I now game with and chat about life with.

I do hope you snap out of your depression as it can be a really harmful thing for people. I have never suffered depression so I can't know what it's like. I've never really understood the reason to be depressed since I find just waking up is a blessing. I hope you get what your looking for with this thread. I also do see you in a different light with this thread as I didn't think I'd see something like this from you so that is a plus. I like that you show some concern of how you're veiwed on here.
On that note I think I've said enough. Like I said hope you feel better and figure everything out.

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Ya I just saw that after I posted my comment. Thanks for making me look bad bobo. lol

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Lots of professional writers cuss. I don't see why you think it's a professional issue.

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its not cussing that hes saying is the problem.

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I'm talking about how he cusses at members. I don't see a problem with cussing if you are talking about something like "That was a fucking awesome game." I'm talking about like "You're a fucking dumbshit moron"

That is not professional. When you say lot's of writers cuss, they are not cussing at their readers because they don't like something or may be an idiot. If he was writing a story and cussing in it that is totally different and can still be professional.

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Yeah, that's not what you said. I understand what you meant now though, so nevermind what I said.

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It's not about cursing. It's one thing to be snarky, it's another to insult another person to a degree that is undeserved. Honestly, there are a lot of comments that Jade makes that would probably be suspendable offenses if anyone else said them.

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That's not what he said. It looks like it's what he meant though, so nevermind.

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It's you decision, Jade. Not community or even not other mods decision.

Forget about bad times and start about good times. And i don't what to talk about our bad times before but i will loving you every times you handle every spammer, beggar and people who doesn't read the rules on FAQ thread and when you makes a creative GA, i'm so happy when i'm joined 3 of your creative GA with my bad english langguage on there. And so glad i can make you a little bit happy with my censored thing and you was allowed me to joining it.

Good luck, Jade and take your decision wisely. Spare your free times for SG and priority your prime time and your future on real life :)

Love you :3

Sincerely,
GhostZ

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Daze pretty much covered exactly what I wanted to say. I may have reservations about how you perform your support duties and I certainly have come to blows with you on quite a few occasions, but I still respect you for the service you perform. I know it's not an easy job being a moderator and I doubt most people would do any better than you have.

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Jade, I'm not the most active here but I've been impressed by your posts on multiple occasions. You seem like an excellent forumite and moderator and though you can be harsh I don't think I've seen you be unfair. I respect and trust you, as do so many others. I certainly don't think "recall" would necessary - you have been and could continue to be a force for good on this site.

The priority here is to put your own wellbeing first. From my own experience, if something's consistently making you unhappy - take a break from it! (The forgetting to eat or sleep times are also a warning sign that it's not healthy for you.) Especially with the depression and intermittent thoughts of suicide, you should focus on looking after yourself. Don't tie yourself down to a website you've grown to resent - spent time with your fiancee, see a therapist, go for long walks or whatever you like to do to relax. You've done a huge amount for this website and you have no reason to stop you taking a break or toning down your involvement here. It sounds like you've tried these in the past and it didn't always help, so remember you could even quit altogether if you wanted. The decision should be based on what you feel's best for you (which it's fine to get wrong or change your mind about as you go along) and not out of some sense of obligation.

Whatever you decide, I wish you all the very best!

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words cannot describe how much SG needs you, you are a mod soaring in the sky and us much like you are to us are the wind beneath your wings

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I still remember when you were just a normal member of the community. Everything seemed so much more simple back then I'm sure.

I'd like to start by saying that I think all of the Steamgifts staff bring something to the table. But you're actually one of the mods I really respect simply because you're someone who isn't afraid to get their hands dirty. There are plenty of people on this site that need to understand authority and you're good at doing that. Sure, in my opinion you may have crossed the line on a few occasions, but I think you handle the majority of situations very well. Several times I've seen some idiot doing something they shouldn't be doing and then you swoop in for the kill. I have to say it's.................refreshing. I'm trying really hard to stay away from this analogy but I keep relating you to Batman lol. Don't worry, it's this batman, not this one.

I do not want to see you go, but I don't want you to feel depressed while you're here. Hopefully most people see things the way I do, but no matter what happens, I only hope that you can find the happiness in your life that you deserve.

All the best from me.

EDIT: I still think that Baseball rule is a good idea.

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Oh, goddamn. Depression sucks. I know how that can feel. Hopefully you're able to find a place in life where the bumps are a little smoother.

And as for your question, I value your time here. You seem like a really nice person. Yes, a bit 'harsh', but we all have times to be pushed to that point. I don't feel that you've ever crossed any sort of line.
Support or not, I'd love to keep you around. You're a very important member of this site and I'd miss you if ya left. ❤

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Do what's best for yourself. Moderating can be tough work and on top of serious personal problems may prove to be too much. If you find that at this point in time it does more harm than good to you then quit. I too have been missing for a over year due to some problems of my own, so I cannot really judge how things have changed or how your ability to moderate has changed but for what it's worth I don't remember having complaints about you and would consider you to be one of the good members. Moving on from your role after having spent so much time in it may feel strange but the best experiences and people you've met here you get to keep. As for your personal issues, I'm sure you've heard of it before, but try to get some help. No matter how competent you might be you can't do everything on your own. A lot of things may be out of your control but there are also many that you can control. Make the best of what you have and live for the things you enjoy. There are other things and others to consider as well but you have to be a little selfish too, I imagine it would be very difficult to be happy otherwise. To sum it up, in the matter of this site and your life in general: do what's best for yourself.

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mother of mothers of text

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As someone who has a lot of experience as admin & mod in various forums, websites, IRC etc,

the time always comes when you ask those questions.

Always.

I believe that in general, someone who asks himself those questions, better, asks them publicly, asks his community, is most probably a great mod as to his job.

As to the personal, making friends and enemies, even if it's part of the job, is also something that influences us, changes us, as every experience does. The experience of being in a community, and in position of responsibility, if not always easy, is always constructive.

Sometimes, there is a price to pay, one does not have the time to do everything, if you have other priorities IRL, and the tensions of the job can be heavy, stressing, even depressing, just as much as the joys are real.

Where the balance goes on a personal level is a question that only you know the answer to,

but as far as your job goes, you are doing a lot of good, and if there is any ( inevitable ) harm, then you are still doing way more good than you might realise.

If you feel uncertain, take a break, a week isn't going to change anything. Take a month, 2, 3, it's your life, a good mod is always greated back. By then you will know.

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Hi Jade!!! : - )

By your words I think that you are a very passionate and sincere person. It’s not easy to speak so openly about our feelings on a public forum, you are really brave, and I respect that!!!

Evidently you enjoy a lot being a mod at steamgifts, and I think that I am beginning to understand why you love this forum so much, because in this, my first two months as a member of steamgifts, I declare totally addicted to spend all my free time here, participating with the community and having a great time. It’s a great community, where evidently you are one of its pillars, and by all the comments in this forum, one that will be very missed by the community if you aren’t around!!!

I also think that you are a strict mod, but analyzing steamgifts system it’s clear to me that you have to!!! That is entirely necessary to avoid abuse and keep a fair play at steam gifts, so you are doing a great job, that I’m sure isn’t easy to do, but by all feellings that you are passing through right now, If you feel that you need a break for a little while, take it!!!

But use that time to talk a lot with your loved ones about your feelings, look for help if your loved ones and your inner self tell you is the right thing to do. And you can still login just to just have fun, without any bad feelings or thoughts in mind, and remember what make you love this site in the beginning!!!

Remember that doesn’t rain forever Jade, so please think who is the right person or friend to ask for advice, work to find what is affecting you mostly and work on it, and please be conscious that everything have a solution, but sometimes we all need help from our friends, as they can see through us, and can advise us about those areas that we aren’t capable to see by ourselves in our darkest hours.

But there is always light at the end of the way Jade, I assure you that, I have my share of troubles too, some get solved, some others arrive, but all left us new experiences!!! That’s life!!!, a mixture of experiences that we all have to live, some good, some bad, but combined make us know the journey worth it!!! And we only have one life, so live it at its best, and enjoy the ride, because at the end anyone of us will scape alive from it. :-)

The only thing we really have is time... The rest are illusions… Just as our loved videogames.

I really wish that you feel better very soon, and I promise I will try to always follow the rules, but most of all, I will always login with having fun in mind!!!

It’s great to be a gamer!!! Remember Clicky : -)

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