Is there a good way to spot fake contributors? I came across a user with only 5 or 6 giveaways to accumulate over USD 1000 contributor value... When asked s/he mentioned private giveaways. Suspicious...

Any ideas on how to go about such cases? Your help would be very welcome.

Thanks...

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Thanks for the info but that still does not list the actual giveaways or contributions of a particular user. I would like to figure out a way to spot entrants in my high contributor-value giveaways who have artificially inflated their contributor values... Does the win link work for that purpose as well?

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There is no way for a normal user to see the private giveaways but some of those fake contributors are in groups with several people to boost each other's values, so looking at what they have won can give some circumstantial evidence. If somebody f.ex. won two 2K Collections in private giveaways, has not activated one 2K game and has a very high contributor value with only a handful of games given away than it's most likely fake.

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Thanks. A very valid observation.

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even after it ended they could probably link you to those giveaways, you should ask for these. ;) typo*

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Private giveaways don't always have to mean the user is a fake contributor. Maybe he wants to make it with his friends. My first one was a group giveaway and the second one public; in this one, the winner re-raffled my game so I think sometimes it's better to make private ones instead of public ones to avoid these things.

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In his current Warhammer collection giveaway, i bet that 90% people who entered boosted his value with fake contributions

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Well, that's what I am saying. Let's say, for instance, 4 out of 10 entrants have cheated their contrib value. How would one spot that?

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Add them after the giveaway ends and ask them for all non public giveaway links. If most of them are fake or from freely obtained keys, cg will honor reroll in that case.
You can even add them now and talk to them if you want, though there is a low chance they speak coherent english :/

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+1

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That's the way to go, I think so too. Downside is that technically public giveaways shouldn't have any special rules but I say, eff it. Noone is forcing you to give your games to someone you don't really want to, you may end up having a "reputation hit" having 1 not received but do you really care? That's why some people do a private giveaway tho and announce it on forum, because you can use blacklists and whatnot, but again that favors only those who come to forums not the broad public and I guess doesn't show on your profile putting you on the other side of the fence of "being suspicious for hosting high value private giveaways" :]

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True, but I suspect that most of the legitimate high contributors (500+) are also pretty active on the forums.

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if we is winning games wich he not activated this should be a clue ;)

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no. most are good. Report them if you feel they are bad.

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Well, I know I didn't heh :p

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Thanks. I haven't really thought about that scenario. Personally I must be one of the lucky few then. So far I have given away 50/50 open/group and re-raffling never happened with my winners.

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I have entered a private give away where to find the link you had too solve a puzzle. So you have those as well.

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Not really Suspicious...Maybe he was a puzzle maker? Or gives them away in chat, etc...

Maybe I misunderstand what you are worried about?

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+1

I made (and making) only puzzle giveaways for my good friends. There are only 2-3 entries. Sometimes 0.

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I think having two 150-pt private giveaways with very few entries/comments raises suspicion. Then I have seen people having given away only a handful of games, but their contrib value skyrocketed. Perhaps the private giveaways should be handled differently when it comes to calculating the contrib values...

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Saints Row The Third Franchise pack was about 12 bucks a couple weeks ago, could be those.

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Most of the giveaways here are games that have been on sale recently. No doubt about that.

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suggestion: not to raise contribution value for private givewaways.

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All contributors are fake, especially this from Poland

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I'm a fake contributor. And OP, so are you. Aren't we a bunch of fake ass douche.

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Watch your posts mate. We are trying to have a serious discussion here.

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If someone suddenly appears on top contributors list, around the time when "X and Y recieved 2k pack/popcap pack/sega collection/whatever 100p giveaways" that all had 2 entries (check latest recieved gifts every once in a while), and he has ~5-10 giveaways and value of 500-1000 and belongs to the same group where those X and Y won the packs, then yeah.. safe to say he's the faker "gifting"

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This! It is easy to detect them this way.

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Private giveaways need to be viewable by everybody once they're finished, that could resolved some problems

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I completely agree, this should be implemented.

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I think this point have been raised a few times already and the answer was effectively "never gonna happen". I personally wouldn't mind full disclosure though, my private giveaways are majority puzzles and it's not like I'm ashamed of them or about anything anyone has written there. But I guess since private giveaways aren't disclosed, people do weird stuff there, have "private" conversations, give some "special" games or w/e, dunno really.

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They don't need to be open-able...just have them on the list of giveaways, like under "Wins"

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Oh that's a very good point. Someone who won a private giveaway, the win shows on their profile but isn't clickable, the same could be for the games given out.

You could sorta correlate who won what from who that way anyway, but dunno why would you want to do that. The private conversations and the lists who entered would be safe, only winner would show but that could be hidde too, I guess, while it still would be visible what games you've given out. Me likey.

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They still said no when I suggested that a month ago. I don't agree with a lot of things steamgifts is doing and not doing, oh well.

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Definitely agreed on that. I don't think anyone should be able to look at a private giveaway, closed or otherwise, unless they've been given the link but all giveaways, group, private and public, should be listed on your profile. Makes things simpler.

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^

once they're finished Yes

Otherwise this site jam our rights

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Potato Vader likes contributor giveaways :P

And I guess theres no 'real' way to check it. Unless you really see a distinctive pattern. Same way theres no method to spot alt accounts.

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  • 1st Giveaway
  • AAA-60$-Game

But at the end who cares. Its not like you have to pay to enter a GIveaway, so you don't lose something if the Giveaway was fake.

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The question wasn't about spotting fake public giveaways, but faked high contributor status. Cg is supposed to work on a script to pick up this stuff automatically, but atm there's some shit happening behind the scenes, some people artificially boosting their contrib status.

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"Some".. We're being flooded with em here man.. You know that :/

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THIS GUY IS A PHONY!

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But he's WORMY! Seems legitimate!

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Use the force

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clever clever aristocrat Bender

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Last few days I've just been going through the "Recently received" list on the bottom and looking at the profiles where the giveaway was private/group. Think I've reported ~50 of them in last 3 days.

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^

Only Public Giveaway Stop Private

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private giveaways are not the problem,idiots are the problem

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I agree but I do think private giveaways should be more transparent when they are over and just hidden when active once they are over they should be displayed like public and group ones.

Otherwise you just see the winner and don't get to see who made them unless your a admin.

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nice idea. i totally agree

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The obvious ones: ones who have over $400 in one game contribution. Report button.

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lol, I have a much higher contribution and I dont fake giveaways. xD

There are many who gave away games for 1000$s of dollars and they are for 100% ok.

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he said $400 contribution value with only 1 giveaway/contribution :P

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Oh I mean like 1 game= $400 in contribution.

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There is nothing wrong with having a USD 1000+ contribution. My giveaways on average amount to USD 23 per game. What lapiscloud meant is people having a USD 400 per game contributor status.

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I'm still wondering how that is even possible ?_?

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I think there is a limit to the contributor value, regardless of the actual price. Some franchise packs cost over USD 150-200. That is when they are not on sale of course but nevertheless...

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There is a limit to points it costs to enter - max is 150 - but no limit to the contributor value you get, the base price counts there. For example a single giveaway of Dawn of War Franchise counts as $400+ contribution, some other packs probably too.

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