If Humble Bundle wants to stop people from giving away the games separately, then they should go back to group keys. Individual keys for each game only makes it easier for people to trade or give away specific games. And only encourages that behavior when someone happens to already own some of the bundle games.
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So, I look at OP giveaway history.
Hypocrite much OP?
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You hate that people are willing to give away free games to other people?
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That's what I don't get. A game's a game. Even with the argument of "exploiting" for contributor value. They held up their end of the bargain and gave away a game.
Maybe in the case of HIB it's different. You can pay as little as $1 and buy several and cash in big time. Even then I don't know. I guess some people take contributor status pretty seriously but it doesn't seem to make a huge difference until you're pushing $1k or more and that's not worth exploiting $1 at a time even with a huge return.
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Um.. it will never result in a loss for charities. It could potentially result in a loss for the company (Humble Bundle Inc) but not at $1. Credit card fees are typically on the order of $0.30 + a percentage of the total (let's aim high and say 5%). That would mean the transaction cost for Humble Bundle on a $1 purchase is $0.35. Definitely not a loss for them BEFORE operating expenses but quite possibly could be afterwards (I doubt it though).
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Some people on this site do not have a creditcard, or a paypal account, and are therefore not able to buy HumbleBundles, or any bundle for that sake, even though they may have the money, and would love to be able to win them here for free! Also (not really related to this specific comment) you CAN submit some humblebundles whole, at the prize of 1 pint or 6, if you've paid above average...
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yhea paypal is limited in some countries you can read that shit on their site, but for credit cards yes there are but only for business use you know a normal / student guy won't be able to afford it in addition to get that you must open a bank and load it with euro which mean exchange your local currency and the bank takes alot of fees to load from the bank account to the credit card ......... meh alot of shit
which country ? not your fucking business
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I'm pretty sure any county with the internet has means of getting access to paypal or some form of pre-paid creditcard. None-the less You are not from any of the countries with the limitation, seeing as the way you are speaking about it isn't becoming to any of those countries dialects. The way you speak is first world country shenanigans, nice troll. Please simmer down now, you are being abusive over an issue you know little of.
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OK then what country doesn't allow credit cards or paypal that has people spoiled enough to troll on fourms and has a dialect that crafts abusive, condescending mannerisms towards people they don't know? See, you think you are smart by being anonymous but it's the way you type/speak that gives away your area of influence. See third world/ second world countries that don't act in the world economy don't have the habits to talk don on others. Now though you may not adhere to your local customs being from those places there are simple ideas that go around such as being forthright and the what not. If you were from a from a country outside of these regions there are other ways to get access to the many ways on the internet to get access to such means. That being said most of those countries don't speak native English, not with the way you spell it seems like you are more a minor typing with rage. As for European countries there are good reasons why each country backs away from having access to paypal but those countries still give access to credit-cards and support them meaning that if this is the case you are A) too young or b) unwanting to get a credit-card on your own. So I kinda do. Anyway if you weren't so abusive I wouldn't have answered you, and careful what you say, I mean there are rules about being abusive here.
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I think it might mean that in come countries no credit card = no paypal (for more info - find my post)
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at least they're not trying to get free exploited keys, they still paid for it and money went to charity so i see nothing bad with this. It's not like they're donating metro 2033
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I'm bothered by games given from HIB and Indie Royale since it's against the wishes of the bundle creators that they'd be given away separately. (Though I did enter a few Indie Game The Movie giveaways before I remembered they were from that.) Whether they should be blocked, I don't know, but occasionally games get blocked here so it's not out of the question.
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It is actually against the TOS for Humble bundle and others to give away keys without using official channels, such as purchasing as a gift. Fortunately with the humble bundle, the core is released as a single key and as such the individual games cannot be given away individually. There are exceptions (such as BTA games, the developer bundles etc.) but this is controlled somewhat by the maximum bundle contribution limit of $30.
Honestly the way I selfishly see it, is that I can enter giveaways far more frequently due to the rapid point generation. So for me its a win.
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I do agree that it shouldn't be permitted at all. The main problem is how hard it is to police the giveaways for those who legitimately by games separately or bundles as gifts, compared to those who give away keys in a manner that violates the TOS, so I guess I just gave up on that fight. Still when people exploiting games for contributor value hit the $30 limit, they tend to stop exploiting games.
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"Honestly the way I selfishly see it, is that I can enter giveaways far more frequently due to the rapid point generation. So for me its a win."
You don't increase your odds of winning at all in this way. That is bad either for who enters for this reason and for who creates the giveaway if he cares the winner is really interested to the game.
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It's not like people aren't getting similar deals elsewhere. I mean, just look at all of the 90% off sales that happen on Amazon and Steam. Someone could buy ten bucks worth of games like this, and they'd get 100$ worth of contributor value. And those aren't gimped like bundle games are. With games that have been in bundles you only get a maximum of thirty dollars in contributor value if that's all you give away.
Of course there's the whole thing with Humble stating that they'd rather you not give away separate keys in their FAQ. And while I do respect their reasoning behind it, I can't really agree with 'em 100%. Sometimes that's all folks can afford to give away, and those games do make people really happy! I know how elated I was when someone gifted me a key for copy of Binding of Isaac + the DLC just a few hours ago. Of course I do try to donate a little extra from time to time to make up for the fact that I've given away a couple of my spare keys. It makes me feel like a bit less of a rudeass. lol
So yeah, I can't be against it due to the fact that so many people find enjoyment in winning and playing them. And that's what really makes this site great, isn't it?
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Nice job on the calling out. Because we want more drama. I'm not even going to investigate this until I find a proper user report instead of shouting on the forum.
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We always have, but we need to be able to see it. <3
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SG tried that. Long time ago, before contrib. there were little bundle games. Then, contrib. appeared and mods/support were busy closing all bundled games, since often that's against TOS of those bundles.
They fought long and hard, but lost with millions of bundle-giveaways, so CG decided to do that $30 limit, allowing breaking some-bundles TOS.
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If I'm not wrong the rule is changed when the support team was just one member only and he couldn't deal clearly with all the work related to his role, not just the bundle giveaways. CG decided to accept individual keys from bundle in case the terms of the bundle allows this. So, individual keys from Humble bundle may be against the rules of SteamGifts if Support agrees that is against Humble Indie Bundle's TOS.
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Well, I know at least one from BIG THREE (indie gala, indie royale, humble bundle) disallowed in its ToS sharing keys between people - according to ToS, you buy whole package for single person use. Didn't change the fact of putting those keys separately here.
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Yes, that is Indie Royale and Humble Indie Bundle. It seems it isn't friendly to accept these giveaways and I don't enter them. If it actually is against their respective terms of service, I think that would be a mistake by CG and the Support team don't stop them.
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those games dont give you contributor value (i think! im not sure, but theyre marked * when you try to create a giveaway), so its fine be me giving them away.
the only thing i think, is the games should only be available for gitfing after the end of the bundle, so its only for those who missed. no point on getting them during the "sale" if you can get them for 1$ (minimum value)
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OP says: "I hate seeing all these games that people paid 6 dollars for on the site.Really ruins the experience and awesomeness of this site for me ^^"
Visit this page and install addons of choice and then ignore them clicky
Or just use the site feature to ignore owned games...
Either way you can make sure you don't see them.
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Cute coming from someone who has only given games away that have been in bundles or are free.
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The fact is that people are receiving those games here for FREE.
Nothing else matters.
If you insist on embroidering your mentality with logical fallacies then deal with the fact that the people (hopefully all) receiving those gifts opted for each giveaway because they desired the game itself, not to "feel others lose money" or because anyone forced them to.
You won't see me complain at the first or any game I win that "the contributor didn't spend enough to satisfy me".
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Or at the very list have a ban on the games in the Humble Bundle until the Humble Bundle is over.
I hate seeing all these games that people paid 6 dollars for on the site.
Really ruins the experience and awesomeness of this site for me ^^
My 2 cents!
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