MoneyHypeMike incident 2: Revenge of the Steam Support.

There is always a risk when trading. both inside and outside of steams own Trading system.
Shame really

:o

This sucks, but have you done anything wrong?The cd-keys were not good?

does he mean CD-keys off a physical copy? or is he talking about activation keys?

Pretty much all scams are going on when trading keys, so i'd say good job Steam.

you dont get banned for trading for keys, you probably got a stolen key or something that got revoked too many times... hit up steam support

I am confident we are not getting the whole story. Steam has no way of knowing if you are trading keys or not unless someone you trade with reports you and even then I am doubtful about whether the mere fact that you traded a key would be a banable offense. If a person knowingly traded keys with you and had a good experience, why would they then report you? They could end up with a trade-ban themselves (assuming Steam bans people for this), plus why would they have ill will towards you?

My guess is that either you have received or given out stolen keys (maybe you bought from a third party scam cd-key seller, maybe you traded for them).

You don't get banned for trading keys. You get banned for trading items/keys which were bought with stolen cards. Or if you trade too much at once.

How would steam know you are trading in steam keys? If you are receiving large numbers of one sided trades, then more then likely its an automated ban set in place to prevent hackers/scammers.

Talk to steam support. Dont assume.

For trading keys you say http://www.steamtrades.com/user/SexyFelga. Who was that guy with who you talked? I made over 200 trades, mostly for keys and I never had problems. Also it's not against Steam rules to trade keys, you can't only do that on Steam forums.

Same thing happened here, except no keys were involved. I was trade banned after trading Dead Space Pack (gift) for TF2 items.

The account I traded with was allegedly hijacked and once the original owner retrieved it and noticed the items were missing they contacted support. Support being very intelligent people tracked the items down to me and gave me a trade ban. After receiving the ban and looking my account over I noticed that I was missing TF2 items as well and using trade history, verified that it was all the items I had received in that trade.

I contacted Steam support, explained it to them, after a few messages they removed the trade ban and gave me the "don't trade with people you don't know". Unfortunately I never received Dead Space Pack, despite the fact that their FAQ states I should have. I was more concerned about the trade ban though, so I never bothered pursuing the gift.

Well all the hate...but still it's pretty clear that as soon as they realize there has been fraud all accounts involved get a tradeban,so the stuff doesnt get spread all over the world. They gotta sort things out. Nothing else in real life.

That said,the Mike stuff was still horribly solved.

Peroxide,what did support say why you didnt get your DSpack back?

Also,yeah..I know the "dont trade with unknown ppl" is unrealistic,but random accounts adding me offering stuff is still different to communicating with ppl on forums before doing a trade.

The lesson to learn from these incidents is... Do not trade for stupid pointless in-game hats/items. TF2 Items/TF2 Keys are an easy way for criminals to launder money and commit fraud. The only person who really gets screwed is you!

Yup, Steam Support is awful, incompetent, and slow. Submitted a fairly simple request 3 weeks ago. We've been going back and forth on it, but they won't help. I won't mention what the issue is, but suffice it to say, they could have fixed it in a few hours. And today is day 21. I used to defend Steam Support as being "not that bad", but to hell with that. My personal story and all the BS stories that everyone else tells have convinced me that they ARE "that bad"

Steam sucks

Okay?

Man, that sucks :/
Though everyone keeps bashing Origin support, after I read MoneyHypeMikes paste I think Origin does a better job with handling this kinda issue

long live drm free

Thus the problem with a closed DRM system like Steam. Not sure why people love this so much, maybe they never had the privilege of buying CD/DVD's of games that they can install and play.

That's why I don't trade and just buy from the Steam store or keys from legit sites instead and be done with it. I can't be bothered with the drama of scammers and steam support.

You have to careful with whom trade, first check steamrep profile on the site