Have you ever felt so depressed that you felt like cutting onions all the time ?
I'm a shy guy too when it comes to girls, but here's a few things I learned over the years. Don't try to be someone else, you want the person to like you for who you are, not who you think she wants you to be. If you don't drink tell her why, it will make for a nice conversation topic and she'll learn a bit more about the real you. Make sure she's actually interested in you before you make any moves, she could just like you as a friend. Don't overthink every little move she makes, you'll just make yourself crazy. Don't be possessive (I'm not a very possessive person but I've seen it with others), most girls won't like that, at least not at the start of a relationship. Doing nothing and let the (fake) drunk guy run it's course, you could have tried to subtly gotten her attention back or teased her about it (but if you're not comfortable doing that, doing nothing was the best solution). If you're looking to make a move, ask her to do something with you alone and see how that goes. If you already have strong feelings about her, it's better to confess them (try to be subtle, no big love confessions) then to keep it bottled up inside, though there's a good chance she'll reject you and it will hurt a lot, but in the long run it's better than obsessing about someone. Lastly, if you think she may be interested you have to find some way to show her you like her too. In conclusion always try to keep things light and fun at the start of a relationship and be yourself. Also you've already crossed the starting line, she knows who you are and she likes hanging out with you (at the very least as a friend).
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Nothing, but that's the point xD It's not a good reason for not drinking. I mean "I don't want to" is perfectly fine, same with your "I don't like it", "it doesn't work on me" will probably provoke "prove it" reaction or "then why don't you just drink with us, for company, if this doesn't change anything?"
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Then you can either go: "Nah, I don't feel like it :p" or "Sure, I'll show you!". People are just trying to have fun with you. But I understand if you don't like that kind of attention or it makes you uncomfortable you can just say: "I don't like to drink".
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because it's preposterous and makes you look like a liar and a braggart. Nobody will ever believe that that's true, and giving that as an excuse makes you look bad.
I don't think it's necessary to give a reason for not drinking. I've known plenty of people who don't drink, and never expected an answer. If someone insists, then they're the asshole.
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I don't think that's true, it depends on what kind of person says it. The bigger you are the longer it takes to get drunk, and if you rarely drink you have a healthy liver that processes alcohol better. It also depends on how fast he drinks. So obviously everyone gets drunk at some point, but it may take him a long time. So it's a believable excuse and he shouldn't feel ashamed to say it and there's nothing wrong with it.
If someone says they don't drink, it's a normal question to ask why since it shows interest in the other person, but if the don't want to talk about it move on.
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actually, the more you drink the more tolerance you build up, so someone who rarely drinks will generally get drunk quicker than someone who drinks frequently.
Size is true, but individual tolerance/susceptibility matters more. I know plenty of people who are very big who get drunk very quickly, and quite a few small people who can pour it away.
Having a high tolerance is fine, but saying "Alcohol has no effect on me" is just asking for crap. just about any answer is better.
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You build up a tolerance for alcohol until your start damaging your liver. Alcohol tolerance is a bigger factor than body size, but it's not that relevant in this case, since most people don't drink enough to build up a tolerance. I think any person who drinks alcohol on a regular base knows that you will get drunk eventually so you can deduce he means "I don't get drunk easily". You are correct in that he could probably word it a little better.
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Well, if she didn't mind and didn't do anything to stop it, there wasn't anything you could, or rather should do. First of all, make sure they are not just good friends that act like that around each other - maybe you treated it super seriously, but for them it was something joke-like. Second of all, was it an official date? I mean did she asked you for that sort of thing or it was more of friends-type invitation? There is always possibility, that she just enjoys your company and wanted you to meet her friends, which is also nice. And don't be sad ^_^ I know things like that can be frustrating, but there's not point in feeling bad about it.
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Since she's not your girlfriend, you would have looked pretty bad if you pulled some alpha male stunt.
Even if she were your girlfriend, a calm and confident approach is much better than resorting to the threat of physical violence.
In any case, don't beat yourself over it!
If she's an allright gal, I doubt she has judged you for not stepping in.
In any case, as others have pointed out, if you feel like you need to "save her", try being witty and polite rather than threatening.
:)
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Being good never works in this society.
Be a dick, dude.
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If she dont want you as a BF , dont try to say I LOVE YOU or these stuff
i did that once , and now she is not even my friend
so stay as FRIENDS better than missing her all the time
what i did to forget her : Gaming with my friends or just chill with my best friends ( just guys )
Dont be sad , just try to smile always
No one deserves to be sad for Her/Him
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Good guys don't finish last, they don't even get to the start line.
This is false. Being a good or a bad guy has no effect on people's desire to date you. That depends on how attractive you are, both physically and otherwise, and how well that lines up with what they consider to be attractive. Some people like tall, muscly dudes. Others like cute smol guys. Some people find niceness and politeness to be very attractive. Others find bad guy behavior hot. But 90% of the time, how nice you are is not the most significant factor in whether people find you attractive or not. Most of it comes from either physical appearance, intelligence or perceived "deepness", all of which can come with or without being nice.
Now what being nice does have an effect on is people's desire to befriend you, which is why a higher proportion of nice guys are "friendzoned". They wouldn't have been dating that girl otherwise, they would have simply been "that random jerk that likes me".
So the thing is really up to you. Would you rather be her friend or not talk to her at all? A lot of people think that being that near to someone you love but not having them will just make it hard to forget them, create a lot of longing and make you miserable. If that's how you feel, just tell her honestly that you want more from her and either it'll be perfect, or you'll end your relationship and not have to suffer anymore. But personally, I have 0 problem with being "friendzoned" by my crushes. It's the second best thing, to be honest. People don't give friendship enough credit. It's a wonderful thing to have. With the person you love? Even better. Eventually, someone else'll come along that you'll fall in love with and you'll no longer be "friendzoned" by that person you loved, but you'll just remain regular friends - which is also cool!
But again, people don't get to control how they feel about these things. She can't control whether she finds you attractive, so don't blame her for that, and you can't control whether you'll enjoy yourself being just her friend, so I won't blame you for that either.
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I think you followed the right course of action. Things wouldn't have ended well by getting into a fight. Just talk to her again and things will get better. :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfeys7Jfnx8
Only thing that came to mind ^__^
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This is gonna be a bit harsh. It's going to seem like I'm an asshole. Maybe I am. But what I say is no bullshit, and it certainly isn't meant to comfort you. Good advice doesn't comfort, it illuminates.
Sounds like it wasn't a date. If it's not a date, and someone begins to hit on her, and she allows it, then your anger or hurt from that is your problem, not hers.
"What should I do?" Date her, if that's what you want. You already get jealous. That's actually not the best sign, really.
Stop accepting friendvitations for a chick you obviously want to be with. Make a move.
"Good guys don't finish last, they don't even get to the start line." You need to ditch this thinking. You're not a good guy. I don't mean that you're a bad guy. I mean that "good guy" is a loaded term. It means you deserve something. No, I don't think you think it means that like you're owed her body or affection, but I do think you think that she--the world--is supposed to recognize that you are a good guy and the drunken tool trying to get into her pants is totally not the good guy. It's bullshit. That's not reality. Get rid of that thinking, and stop feeling sorry for yourself about it.
Maybe you don't feel sorry for yourself. Maybe that closing to your post wasn't supposed to make me think you feel sorry for yourself. But that's what it comes off as. Get rid of that. Get rid of the good guy stuff. Lots of "good guys" are toxic assholes. They're just aren't alpha male toxic assholes. Good guy is a meaningless designation applied to oneself in order to fault the world when it's your job to adapt to the world, or in order to make excuses for your behavior because you're really a good guy so you can't really mean anyone harm. It's bullshit.
You can't both try to recognize and respect her agency by saying you're just friends, or saying that you don't want to objectify her, and then also want to be the good guy who is the superior choice to the not good guy if only she could see that. If she wants or at least condones the attention she receives from someone else, that's her prerogative. What you think of the guy sans his actions actually harming her is irrelevant. Oh, he just wants to nail her because she's just an object to him but I'm a good guy who appreciates her as a person and respects her. Irrelevant. Your feelings of jealousy regarding how someone else behaves toward her is your problem. Your desire not to objectify her is rooted in norms about behavior that society has helped you internalize--good norms--but norms that have nothing to do with her. Her preferences, what constitutes being objectified or mistreated to her, what she wants, who she is--that's what matters. Not your abstract idea of what it is to be a good guy. Not your stereotype of what constitutes behavior she values, what is chivalrous, or respectful. Make a move, develop a relationship beyond friendship so that your jealousy can at least be rooted in obligations toward you that she has voluntarily undertaken because you presented her with that option and she wanted to take it.
What should you have done, you ask? You should reconcile how you feel about her with how you behave. Does she know you like her and have no interest? Then move on. Does she not know how you feel? That's your mistake. Stop going on friend outings with this woman. You clearly have the feels and you need to act. So act, and stop just being in her presence getting a hard-on for smashing some douchebro's face because he violates your sensibilities by actually trying to nail the chick you like. Act on these primal urges to be her guy, and to have the tacit approval of society to tell other dudes to "fuck off" with words (or fists) because they give the slightest (or not so slight) indication that they want to make a move on her. No one will act for you. No one will see that you are a "good guy". You need to express of your own volition all these good guy thoughts you think you have and turn them into productive actions for the things you want rather than leave them as figurative pats on the back about how civilized, evolved, respectful, and considerate you are.
P.S. I'm a good guy, too. Who gives a shit?
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It's really hard to judge how well it went and what kind of affections were made(if any).
Usually things didn't go as one thinks they did. Passive aggressiveness for one usually shines easily. But again it is hard to know the truth without being there.
Sadly if you want to show affection, you have to show it somehow. As a male you have to do most of it in western society. But maybe she also invited you to see if you have any feelings for her? Who knows though. Odd that she would bring people with you who flirts with your date, unless it was her intention to get a reaction out of you.
Or the whole thing was more casual and she just wanted to invite you as a friend. Specially as you seem to be the type who is very supportive and give attention. Girls like that a lot usually, specially when they don't need to give anything in return.
So I can understand the frustration of not knowing. I would probably personally call her and see what she thought about all of it. Just to get peace of mind.
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through history war and violence have achieved greater things than shyness, hesitation and weakness. i'm not saying that you shoulda have shot him down but at least place yourself between him and her without being too aggressive and insistent should have sent a clear message to her. but now it doesn't matter anymore.
seems like you two don't know each other that well, and i would bet right here. have a chat with her, ask for a date. anything that makes up a contact between you two. just take a risk. i don't know you but look, it's better to take one (and maybe get burned) now than hitting the fourtyes with a bag full of regrets chained on your back. lifes just to short to live it in the shell you built to yourself.
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+100 here, this guy hit the nail right on the head....
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i watch this when im sad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQPM4_fMIEg&list=LLrD744V_6nJDqemJwQXS3Lw&index=16
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Thanks for the mini train.
I would give advice but I'm clearly out of my league here, most people are saying to make a confrontation and I don't get that, so... chyeah. If anything, I'd say take a risk and ask her out, no matter the conclusion it'll be done and dusted right there and then, isn't that better in the long run? To not mess around?
Also, as one of those "good guys that always lose" the "good guys always lose" cliché is bull. :p
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I relate to this so much it hurts. It's hard but at some point you have to suck it up and tell her. The longer you wait, the less likely you are to be successful and if you never tell her you'll probably stew on that forever.
Sounds like you acted the best you could at the concert though.
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It's an awkward situation and the only thing you can do is guess.
Some women want a "macho" man to step in and take a little control, others would get pissed that you're objectifying them.
The way I see it, if she didn't want him to do that, she would have stopped him. If she wanted you to stop him, she would have given some serious signals, I guess.
Just move on. Plenty of fish in the sea. Don't let it get to you, even if it feels like shit. You acted mature, that's the least you could do when someone acts like a douchebag.
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well i think violence would deffinitely a bad idea. It's really hard to tell you what behaviour would be better and there is no good answer, i think you made good and don't blame yourself for nothing. Now go and try to ask her for a date, if she asked you to go to a concert it means she likes your companionship so now go and make it even closer
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