my best friend (a girl) for three years decided to stop being my friend :(
im feeling really down atm, and the sad thing is she left me on the first day of 2014.
I just want the steamgifts community to provide some support cuz ur my only friends atm :c
thanks.

UPDATE: okay guys, so umm basically she texted me, and we discussed everything, and now were best friends everything is cool again. but idk, weve had 5 big fights in like 3 weeks. she promised she'll try her best to keep cool. i hope she does stick to that promise. but frankly, i learned a lesson, i wont rely on her too much. i mean not until she proves that shes over what happened and shes the same girl i had a best friend thing with. anyways thank you SG! feel free to write comments about the update, yes i do read them all :) funny posts are largely appreciated

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No begging.

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it's not begging :( im really not in the mood for a ban..

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...not in the mood for a ban

i lol'd

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lol

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You simply can't ban him, bobo already tried but it says that he's actually in no mood for a ban. End of SG is near.
Gotta cheer him up first, then ban him ;>

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But you do for cheap?:trollface: xD .
Tripple X 2 - The Next Level soundtrack,Ice Cube "Anythin'?How bout some fries an' a shake?"

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man, those are great words.
thankyou very much!!
what do u do for a living? u should be a psychologist

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There's plenty of fish in the sea bro...basically he said that but more scientifically :trollface:.... Eh im jokin,now HERE'S MY WORDS FOR YOU BRO :) Unicornplanet dude.
In The Vampire Diaries, Lexi tells Stephan Salvatore something like "You know ,contrary to popular beliefs,there are more than one " , She was talking about THE SOUL-MATE :) Hope this cheers you up too bro.
AND NOW SOMETHING TO CHEER US UP, WHY did you end up like Ser Jorah Mormont? :) since you say you were best friends but not more than that,however the way you JustinTimberlake-CryMeARiver makes us think you wanted more than that. So dude,did the lack of action beat the now-regrets you have?:)

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There is a reason for everything, and there are two sides of every coin.

You probably fucked up somehow.

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i made a mistake three months ago when i ignored her on whatsapp for another girl
and i apologized so much right after and for the past three months ive been trying to make it up to her, but she always says i can't fix it, and that every time i talk to her she feels hurt, even though im cheerful and helpful and im there for her for everything.

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no offence but that sounds shallow as fuck, if she got that upset over something like that then she was never really your friend, what is she 15? a real friend would have forgiven you by now :) just move on and try to find better friends.

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+1 she's your "friend" not your f**king wife!

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I totally agree with you on this.Three year friendship over with THIS.That's ridiculous.I mean they are BEST friends ...

I guess people take lightly the meaning of this word nowadays.

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kinja: yeah i think the whole thing is shallow.. were 17 but yeah imma try to move on i have other friends waiting for me
doon: ahaha i know man, i know..
alprshk: those two sentences should be given a nobel prize man.. applies sooo much to her!!

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I know this is gonna sound stupid but i think this problem stems from the internet, the word friend has been, for many years now, thrown around too lightly. If we look at your "friends" close enough we might find out that most of them are just people we know. Real friends, i'm talking friendships that last a lifetime here, people you can actually go to when you have problems, are a very rare thing.

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I'm 29, grew up in a village in the Netherlands 'till I was 10, moved to and lived in the UAE (Dubai and Sharjah) for 6 1/2 years, 4 of which were in quite a state of poverty. Lived in the US between 15 - 16. Moved back to NL from Dubai alone when I was 16 1/2, lived in a city in the south, moved to my current city @ 18, moved to the Hague @ 21, lived there for 3 years before moving back to my current city. Throughout all of this I was always a very social, helpful, loyal friend to people, always gave friendships my all, and I probably met and interacted with hundreds, if not thousands of people.

Guess how many of these "true friends" I have after all that?

  1. Met one when I was 12 in Sharjah (who now lives in the US), the other two when I was 18, who I still regularly hang out with. People I know will always be friends, 'till we're old and crotchety.
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People don't abruptly act on something that happened three months ago.

You're not seeing the whole story, or you're not telling the whole story.

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I am sorry to say it, but it seems that it was a toxic relationship to start with. You were just friends, there is no reason for you to not talk to other girls. There are a lot of times when people mistake being nice with being submissive. I am pretty sure she enjoyed having 3 months of her ass licked as well. Believe me taking your distances is the best thing to do right now. Get into a game or something, games are never jealous nor demanding, and are okay if you play another game :D

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nice man, i will follow ur advice ps: how do u write a new line on comments :P?

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You're welcome!
PS: it's an addon called steamgifts plus, but apparently it's been discontinued so you should use the alternative
If you do have it, make sure you select "Parse Line Breaks"

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Seems to me that she is in love with you, but you don't feel the same way, so she decided to cut you off completely instead of just hurting herself by chasing the wind.

I had a similar experience where I had to end a really nice friendship with a girl I was crazy in love with, but she was not interested in me in the same way. Maybe I'm an asshole for doing that but I had to do it for myself as I was starting to get depressed.

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no this is different.. shes not in love with me but she values me and shes attached
but idk ive really tried to fix this and she isnt trying to move on

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and i apologized so much

Okay. You apologized to your "best friend". For finding someone else. But why? :O

She didn't have to be jealous, she's not your girlfriend ;)

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mkrnic: i made one mistake three months ago when i ignored her, but i apologized a lot and she never got over it
funny thing is that during the summer she did the same to me with a guy and even got so attached to him that she said hes better than me, soon he became a douche to her and so they stop being friends. she came back to me and i welcomed her with open arms, i didnt make a fuss about it.

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Reading everything up to now, I agree with the others; good riddance. She was definitely not a best friend. Not sure if you really were friends to start with. At least from her side it seemed less like friendship and more a case of wanting to "own" you. It is perfectly normal to talk to other people and apologize if someone feels hurt. If she was a friend, she would not break it off, but accept your apology.

She comes across more as somewhat selfish and a drama queen; she makes a big deal out of nothing (it can't be fixed..what the heck is she talking about? Nothing traumatic happened) and wants you to focus on her alone. She also decides to end your "friendship" one the 1st of january, instead of just waiting a week or something. It's like she picked out a sort of specific date for it.

To me it just seems she wants to create drama because that gets her attention. Maybe she enjoyed to be showerded in apologies and pleaded by you. It might make her feel important and in control. I would say, whatever she decides in the future, don't renew your friendship. Her possessiveness and need for drama and attention surely will bring problems again in the future.

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I'm glad we all drew the same conclusion here. Now, the problem is more than obvious. It's HER ! dramatic music plays in the background

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Love the link (bookmarked) xD And yup, we're judgemental about this (at least I am). We only know one side of the story, so that is all we can react to.

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im sorry to say this jurm but she was a best friend. she was great all along except for the last three months, she hasnt been the same. and idk we do fight a lot in our friendship, and she usually apologizes and we start over. Im not so sure its gna be the case this time, but if she does try to renew the friendship, its gna take a lot to convince me to accept.

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After 3 years of friendship, accepting her apologies would make sense ( if there are any ), but your friendship would not stand on the same terms. If she doesn't feel the same for you and values only your attention, then she is holding you back from meeting new people and making friends that could be way better than her.

Think the issue through and compare your choices and their outcome. You might be in for a great surprise.

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If she's not in love with you and doesn't want you two to be more than friends, like you say, then she's a selfish c***t(no offense)and you have no reason to try to make up with her. Supposing there are no romantic feelings involved, the friendship between a man and a woman(both heterosexual) is pretty much the same as between two guys or two girls(with minor differences). Not only should she not get mad for you ignoring her over another girl, she should actually encourage you to, if you have a romantic interest for that girl. "Bros before hoes" is not a universal rule. A guy friend will always understand a situation like this(unless it's something really important, like a mater of life and death) and there's no reason a girl shouldn't. Even supposing it was something really important, a sane, decent person would have forgiven you by now. She's not such a person. You really want someone that selfish and inconsiderate in your life?

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LOL someone decided to abandon you as their quest for 2014

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hhahaha yes :"( ahh what to do..

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Many girls are stupid nowadays. I know of many girls that did this in order to see if their friends liked them a lot so that they will try to be friends again. If I were you, I would do my best to make her tell me why she did that and if she has a real reason of doing it, I would tell her that we can solve it together. If I understood she just did it to see if I indeed care about her and like her a lot, then I would never talk to her again, except if she would actually prepare something for me and had to tell me a lie, then I would be okay.

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hmm.. yeah i guess...
but like we've talked too much about it, and she constantly rubs it in my face so idk

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Just forget it.

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Learn to rely on yourself and not others (unless it's needed). It's fine to talk to people and just hang out with them, but friends are temporary and we need to find more people to talk to as we will lose friends over time, it's time for you to be your one man army with people to talk to until something happens to you. That's what i'm doing. Having people around to talk to so I don't go crazy until I find something good on my journey of my life. Let the people come to you and not chase for other people to like you. Find your friends who will stick with you and will stick with you for the rest of your life.

Besides, girls are too much of a hassle to have around alot of times lol, make friends with the bros and have fun. Now on the task before us, Just wait a few days and ask her what happened. Perhaps she's moved on and she has more friends she can relate to than you, if that's the case, i'm sorry for this lost, but you have many more things coming your way. besides you got us, lovable idiots who enjoy making giveaways and just talking on the forums. We'll find ways to cheer you up, may it involve cat videos or pics of funny pictures, we'll be your friends for as long as you stick on this forums.

Good luck and I will be thinking about your success in life and your growth. The Shadow always watches over those they protect.

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ur really really great man... accept my friend request on steam please :D

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Don't be a mess just forget it...
with the new year be more friendly more kind and by the end of this year you will be surrounded by new friends

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i hope so :D

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If you need to be cheered up then I have the perfect game for you.

Pretend You're Xyzzy

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hmm will give it a shot

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After reading about that "whatsapp" incident, I think that she only enjoyed your attention. The minute you stopped giving it, she had lost her interest. ( Been there, done that )

Also, what the hell ? She got upset for a petty thing like that ? If she truly was a friend she would have understood and helped you to follow your own interests in order to make you happy. If she didn't want you to be happy, then she was never your friend, mate. She only wanted to have your attention whenever needed.

As a solution to this, I suggest you go out, make new friends, change the circles you're in and experiment. You'd be surprised of what you'll find.

Also, best friends are hard to come by nowadays. We call a "best friend" the person we spend the most time with, or someone we trust the most at a certain moment of our lives. One thing is certain, finding and keeping a bestfriend is no easy task, but when you do find one, you'll find a whole new world.

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+1

And if going out doesn't give you new friends.... Then there is always the SG forums where you can hang all day...

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SG Forum - where you can post whatever you want and opinions actually DO matter.

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dooder and multy: oh what would i do without SG ;")

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That should be a propaganda poster...

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If you are skilled with photoshop or other image editing software, make one and post it here. :)

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I'm on it !
EDIT: It took me 10 years and 3 feet to make it..but I did it ! poaster

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Nice job ! It actually made me laugh.

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multy: wise words man, appreciate it, will do!! :D

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You're gonna die some day. That's the best I can do to cheer you up. Look forward to the relief.

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ahahahaha at least im not commitin suicide yo! XD sounds good

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i lol'd

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alright ive read the comments above and i loved your feedback guys a lot.
thing is ive discussed this topic with her for countless hours and hours and hours.. she always fears that she'll get replaced even though i assure her and show her through my actions that she won't, but still she doesnt believe me cuz shes "pessimistic about friends and thinks im gna hurt her"
theres no use negotiating with her anymore, even when i began begging for a second chance on the friendship and she refused
so i just want ur help to move on and send me funny stuff if u may :D y'all are the best ty

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I will ask you one time, and please be honest: how old is she ?

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were both 17

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Then you have your answer. There is plenty of time to move on without regretting the decision.

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Do you play xbox at all!? I have some Ms. Splosion Man codes for XBLA. Maybe a new lady friend or maybe some revenge for 'blowing' Ms. Splosion Man up lots and lots?

But in all honesty, that does suck. Losing friends isn't fun and I'm just talking from 'gradual' friend loss. I.E. friends move away and you lose touch.

Edit I shouldn't say 'in all honesty' really. I do have some codes if you wanted one heh.

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nah man i dont own an xbox but appreciate your offer tho!
yeah it does, but i guess thats life eh?

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Is any good? I thought of buying that game a while back, seemed like fun.

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Come on pull yourself together! Get drunk with some drinkin mates, like men do!

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ahahaa i dont drink brah xD not my kind of thing

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I don't wanna to sound like a prick... or bother to read anything that was already said but...

My pro tip for you: DEAL WITH IT

Stop acting like a center of god damn whole universe. You know how does it sound? "OH LOOK AT ME, I'M SAD, NOW CHEER ME UP" It is pathetic….. Maybe she noticed that you have some feelings for her, maybe she was fed up with your attitude, or maybe you overvalued your bonds… maybe she was just nice towards you? Or maybe she saw that you are depending on her too much and wanted you to see that there are other people on the world! Why the hell are you whining here? You won't find "friends" on internet… friend Is real person, with flesh and bones, who can smile at you without typing LOL, who can kick you if you screwed up, who can pat your back… So why the hell you decided to make a post that is kinda whore attentioning here?

You are guy! Stop being pathetic! Stop whining! Stand strong! Head up! Hide all of your imperfections! Hide your feelings! Go out! See world! Make new friends!

Why the hell do you expect US the great NOBODIES, internet beings that may or may not exist, that you won't ever see on your own eyes… to tell you what you should do?

Lad let HER GO, meet her once again THE LAST TIME and thank her for that 3 years… That's your FUCKING duty as a man, always be polite toward woman! Than turn around, delete her number and go live your god damn life.

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well the part where u say i was depending on her too much is not true cuz she was the one who confessed that she dsnt want to be dependent on me..
as for the rest AHAHAHA u win the blunt award, though i didnt make this thread to seek attention
and yes i will try to let go. thanks man

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Sweet talks or lies won't benefit me in any way here... If I can't profit on doing something I simply won't bother to do it.

And I'm not joking when I said to meet her! You will be less than bug if you don't do it! And she should understand that all you want to do is to have proper ending, she shouldn't refuse. That's how real man should act. Even if woman kick you in emotional groin, you should face her acting as nothing ever bad happened, thank her for all that was good and go your own way. That's the right étiquette.

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Before being a random bunch of "nobodies" we are a community, and as such we should hang tight. If for you internet is a cold faceless machine, don't put that mask on the rest of us.

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Phelan: ive got no hatred towards her.. my last words were thanking her for this great friendship, and telling her that if she needs anything she should come to me.
however it is her on the other hand who wants to distance herself because she cant live with how much she treated me less than i deserved for the past three months. so idk shes in some of my classes at school and school resumes in a couple of days, dno if its gna be awkward or we'll just pretend we dont exist to each other, or whether she'll apologize.

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exactly sokie, which is why i posted this thread here on SG, so u could all help me move on from this part of my life

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Says who? Says random guy with nickname "sokie", without showing real name, real age, real photo, real place where he lives. The thing is we all are hiding here behind a mask of being anonymous. Being anonymous means being NOBODY.

Community? What's that? Internet community? What do we have in common... only that we are using internet... and probably we all like games. That's probably not enough to be called proper community.

Internet environment is just poor substitute of real world, don't ever forget this! If you will you will end up like a sore loser locked in your own self build cage… meaning your own room with computer screen. We aren't supposed to live our lives here in internet! We are free! We are alive! Each of us have his/her own desires, dreams, aims, responsibilities…

As far as I'm concerned I don't care if I am treated as non existing entity… simply I don't care. I will just close my PC and meet with friends… simple as that.

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i understand what ur trying to say.. im not a locked up person to my PC dw i do the IB program and other stuff..
who cares whether this is a community or not, what matters is if those people support me
and they showed me that they did today, so thankyou steamgifts.

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Real name, real age or real face can mean nothing as well, a mask can be way more than hiding behind an internet identity...
Great friends can have little to nothing in common, that's not what makes a friend.

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Sorry for the friendzone!

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its got nothin to do with friendzone ^^ read the comments above

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There's plenty of fish in the sea bro...basically LECHERY said that but more scientifically :trollface:.... Eh im jokin,now HERE'S MY WORDS FOR YOU BRO :) Unicornplanet dude.
In The Vampire Diaries, Lexi tells Stephan Salvatore something like "You know ,contrary to popular beliefs,there are more than one " , She was talking about THE SOUL-MATE :) Hope this cheers you up too bro.
AND NOW SOMETHING TO CHEER US UP, WHY did you end up like Ser Jorah Mormont? :) since you say you were best friends but not more than that,however the way you JustinTimberlake-CryMeARiver makes us think you wanted more than that. So dude,did the lack of action beat the now-regrets you have?:)

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about the justin timberlake bit (lol): no i did not want more, all i wanted was a permanent friendship (the same way it is) for many more years
I was happy with the way we interacted
but thanks brah appreciate ur advice

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I don't know about you but girls are truly, truly outrageous.

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Very very nice comment !
OP you just need to get over it man. If she is acting like that shes mad on some stupid things get over it !

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loved this speech man, kudos!! i shall hold my head high and fight this battle

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In the words of my father - "The mind of a woman is like a bowl of spaghetti. Mixed, tangled, and all over the place."

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this quote WOW-ed me. i shall reference u r007k17 if i ever use it :)

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So true :)

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The way I see it, if she makes such a drama, then she is extremely dissapointed.
If she is extremely dissapointed, it means she had some expectations.

were these expectations founded, or was it just illusions she enjoyed feeding on .
So what the hell did she want from you ? Maybe she should ask herself that.

That, or she just enjoys playing the victim, to justify her real intentions.

Anyway, if she doesn't want to move on, there's no point wasting yourself over this. It's her problem, not yours anymore.

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she's confused.. but I guess u can both of your reasons apply in this case

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I don't really get what she is confused about. To me it seems she creates the extra drama because she feeds of the attention. If she has friendship issues, she needs to deal with it and tell you what she expects from you. Or maybe she fancied you and that made her confused? Did you ever sit down with her and just talk about what is going on between you two?

In any case, I think it is better to lose unhealthy friendships. You could stick it out (if she would want to make up with you), but as long as she has trust issues and you both (or just you ^^) don't know what is going on, you might run into more of these types of problems.

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AHAHAHAHA loved it :')

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She wanted the D but you gave her the middle finger one day, she didn't like it i guess.

Also most girls this generation are dumb, i've had quite some unpleasent moments like this few years back, girls saying "man are all the same" yet these girls do things such as attracting their attention, hitting on you and if you end up approaching them with that relationship intention they say they don't want to, they get in a relation with some idiotic guy, get f*cked a couple of times, then she gets discarded like used trash, chooses an awfull path to take in life (drugs, alcohol, constant bitching).

I've had many different cases in my life, i'm only 21 and half, i feel old already.

I can tell you my last "close friendship" ended like yours, she wanted my attention, she wanted the D and my wallet, i gave her the middle finger for one day after having a convo about relationships, she started acting like a bitch i made fun of her for sometime and moved on. Acting all nice on her didn't get me anywhere, so i acted like an asshole in the end. She was hitting on me the entire freaking time, she wanted it but i wanted more than that.

I've had like 5 or 6 cases of the kind, all with girls, yes. They are dumb (again), one of them regretted doing what she did to me and tried to make up for it a couple of times, and she still tries, after like 2 years? I'm too much of an asshole to go around accepting apologies like it was nothing, you mess up, you are on my blacklist and belong to the past. That's how i am, going back is never a good option, knowing you can get used again or something of the likes.

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... the most girls in this generation are dumb? ...

OK... one day almighty god ascended from some unknown dimension and made only female part of population dumb? No lad that's not how it works. That's naïve to even think like that…From my point of view… you are exactly the same as those girls… DUMB

NEVER EVER AGAIN call woman dumb! NEVER! They may act sometimes incomprehensibly for you… they may choose wrong way in life… But never call them dumb, whores, bitches. That's not the way man should act. You act like a sore loser now, she didn't pick you (the only way for her to be happy for whole her life, right?) and now you call her dumb…

Geez… what's wrong with you guys… I think that Y chromosome is slowly dying out. You all act like sissies: whining, crying, grumbling… that's pathetic. Act like a man. AND NEVER EVER AGAIN SHOW ANY SIGN OF BEING DISRESPECTUL TOWARD WOMAN.

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I couldn't help but laugh at this post, for a good 5 minutes.

My sides, they burn! Thanks for this laugh, I needed it.

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I honestly can't tell if this post is trying to be funny or not...

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Da fuq?

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My thoughts exactly.

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Feminism fought for the right to call women dumb when they act stupid. For the love of god, don't let that sacrifice go in vain. #neverforget


More serious response. Here's where you make a mockery of the very cause you're... err... championing, but first a sidenote.

"you are exactly the same as those girls… DUMB"

So you agree with them that they're dumb?

Anyway...

"You all act like sissies: whining, crying, grumbling… that's pathetic." So... like a stereotypical woman? Everyone, get this, Phelan thinks women are pathetic. What must a woman do to escape her patheticness? "Act like a man." Because that's how patriarchy works. If you're not a man, you're a weak, mewling, pathetic woman and that's sick. Grow some balls, ladies. Not that men would ever tell you this because we can't ever, ever, ever be disrespectful to the crying pathetic half of society, because they're... like... some sort of sub-human thing or something, that doesn't deserve to be treated like a person with feelings who can possibly stand up for themselves even against the horror of being called "dumb." Don't cry, ladies, that's pathetic. Men, stop acting like sissies, that's woman talk!

Your white knighting is at best severely unhelpful and unwanted. At worst, it singlehandedly killed everything feminism has been working for for decades and catapulted us back into the 1920s from whence you came.

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okay lemme respond to everything said here:
zeus, no this friendship was not sexual, it was a brother sister type. i dont hate her, i never said i did, but i guess were not right for each other if she stays the same
phelan: calm down on that feminism talk, not all women are perfect, and not all men are perfect either. ur tone is, well, makes me laugh ^^ cuz its serious and humorous, but ur blunt, thats for sure
and ahahaha surprised to see u jade commenting here xD i feel a bit special..

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Dude, here, everyone makes assuptions based on the facts you've thrown at us, and our own experiences and judgements :-j .
They are worth keeping in mind and learning from.
But in reality, only you can know how she's really like.

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You call that serious response... for real? You should try better than that lad.

First things first. No I don't think that woman are stupid, it simply fault of poor translation of what I had in my mind. Should be something like "you are as dumb as dumb you think woman are"

Sissy as synonymous word for mollycoddle. I don't have any idea what do you mean saying "stereotypical woman" maybe because stereotype depends on specific environments. And treating it like something common for whole world is kinda silly if you ask me. There are plenty of stereotypes about woman in my country… there are those showing motherly side and there are those showing that woman should stay in house, doing all kind of chores. There is NON about woman being in any way inferior to Man… NON about woman being dumb.

So I kinda get it… you are ignorant who isn't capable of "serious response" right lad? All of your assumptions were wrong so your silly emotional rants are way of the track. You accuse me of saying/thinking something which I never said or even think. Let me tell you, you suck when it comes to mind reading… don't ever try this again… or you will simply ridicule yourself just like you have right now.

Don't try to impute your phobias on me.

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"lad"

Let me tell you, you suck when it comes to mind reading... don't ever try this again... or you will simply ridicule yourself just like you have right now.

Don't try to impute your phobias on me.

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Hmm... I must admit that out of your replies to my recent posts…. This one is slightly more rational and less emotional… hey that's big improvement! Thank you for using my own words, now I feel really fulfilled… not always support members are quoting others right? That's kinda great honor for me.

But still… I don't know what are you trying to say. I really do think that this whole thing with telepathy is really overrated. So how about using some WORDS like a normal people in verbal confrontation. I know… I know… talking nowadays is passé… but nevertheless TRY… it really is fun, and it is great way to understand other person…. I will wait because as a normal person (you will find it hard to believe) I can't read your mind.

P.S. I would be really glad if your next reply wouldn't look like a spam. We can talk, you can try to explain what you have in mind… but if you still want to write emotional text in which you try to show me as some kind of woman hating devil or write another meaningless spam… probably it would be better if we just stop right now. Let's not waste our time alright? You have better things to do and so do I.

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"rational"

I don't think this word means what you think it means, because not a single post you've made here has been rational. You said stupid stuff, got called on it and then try to claim you said something else. You did not. Either check you're saying what you actually meant or don't bother replying to this comment. My first comment was a totally accurate summation of what you said. It may not have been your intent, but it is what you said. You're also seriously reading into other people's words yourself, or you wouldn't have made that first post either, but you're acting like you're the only person around here who's sane and everyone else is just making stuff up.

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That's your problem...

"Try to claim you said something else" because if you would calmly read it once again I DID say something else. It is your problem to think that everybody is trying to say the worst possible things. That's why I said (try to say) that you are relying too much on your own phobias to judge what other want to say.

I admit that sentence "you are exactly the same as those girls… DUMB" sounds wrong. But like I said before, it is fault (and I mean this is my fault and I agree on that) of poor translation. If you would read things before this sentence you would see sarcastic remark how stupid it is to generalize things and call half of his generation (female half) "dumb". It would be illogical for me to say in one sentence sarcastic remark about generalizing… and in second one do the same thing, no?

That's one of the rules of statutory interpretation. Literal interpretation isn't always the best one, sometimes we have to read context to understand what one side is trying say. What you did is just ripping out parts that sounds bad and using them as a weapon for hysterical attack, and I mean this part "LOOK AT HIM HE SAID WITCH! BURN HIM ON STAKE!"

Emotional? How so? We are talking about values and that have nothing to do with begin emotional. In that sense value system is kinda similar to law (which is based on values). Or maybe you thought that it is emotional because of me using capital letters? Well it can mean shouting but it can also mean emphasizing things, and this exactly what I was doing. Once again it shows that you took for granted my alleged bad intentions. Which once proves that you are using your own phobias to judge others.

And yes "being polite toward woman" is part of system of values in my kulturkreis. It is really in bad taste to call woman dumb, whore, stupid etc even if you think like that. That's not how man should act. I wouldn't be offended if you would call me stupid guy following machismo, or trying to be like macho (macho =/=machismo) or trying to act like a white knight… I don't agree with that… but I wouldn't waste my time to explain it (I'm lazy)… but showing me as some kind of brute that would offend woman… that's low. You may call me asshole, jerk, stupid, idiot whatever you want… but never accuse me of being in any way churlish toward woman.

Another things sissy as I said is synonymous word for mollycoddle… you can check it yourself.

I couldn't care less about feminism. It doesn't mean I'm devil, monster, woman hating asshole. I simply don't care about it. Equal rights, esteem yes. Feminism no… I simply don't like it. I don’t like part of followers of religion called feminism who try to interpret all things through their phobias and complexes.

**Here let's participate in my little test:

I say: "Woman have smaller brains" yes I do believe that statement is true. But for now let's forget about this for a while, ok?**

Right now I'm slowly getting to understand why you repeated "lad". You might be "lass" might be… because we are in internet and I'm very careful with defining sex of another person. But as you see, even though I think that you are acting emotional and trying to defend your silly mistakes (as for me I've already agreed that I made mistakes) but as you see… I won't call you "stupid" or "dumb" because it would be not consistent with my personal system of values. What I'm trying to do is convince you to take back this false statement saying that I am in some way disrespectful for woman. You may call me dumb or whatever you want… I don't care… this is the only thing I'm concerned.

Reading minds? But if you would read zeus second post (somewhere below) he DID indeed generalize calling all woman in his generation dumb. So it wasn't "reading into other people's words yourself" it was correct way of Reading the context and correct attempt to understand what second person said. (That's exactly the same thing where you made mistake)

Ok… right now let's take a look again at my little test (above). I did say that "woman have smaller brains than man" did this somehow outrage you? Did it anger you? Be frank… did you think that I said that thinking that woman is somehow inferior just because she have smaller brain? If you did, that means that I am right AND YOU ARE TRYING TO INTERPRET ALL THINGS THROUGH YOUR PHOBIAS AND COMPLEXES.

Woman having smaller brain is rational and scientific FACT person trying to dispute with this statement is rather silly. While I do think that woman have smaller brain… that doesn't mean I think that they are more stupid (just like in this article I believe woman use it more efficiently)

And the last thing. Jade the thing is… how many times you hear that somebody doesn't get what you tried say? Just below somebody after rational long reply said that he didn't understand your sarcasm. And I do remember similar situations in other threads. We can assume that you are always right the rest are idiots (well in some way I agree that I am idiot)… or we can assume that sometime your communication skills…. well… aren’t the best.

As you see I spent my OWN precious time to explain all things once again. I really had huge urge to just ignore your pointless reply… I'm not patient person.. and I have low tolerance for spouting nonsense… so this is it sink or swim. This is the end of this pointless conversion. Whether you take back that silly accusation or not is up to you. Nobody will read it, only you can… and it up to you.

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The following are some things that some of this thread's replies have made me think of. Not directed toward anyone in specific, just statements I saw.


If an act of white knighting killed everything feminism has been working for, it should stick to the kitchen (sarcastic jab). Either it has intrinsic value and cannot be killed, or it was a non-starter to begin with.

Feminism as a concept is invulnerable. Women are not. A woman who makes dumb choices is DUMB. A woman, not all women. Being a woman does not give one the right to benefit from the achievements of women of the past without respecting their achievements by respecting yourself. To think otherwise is to risk having a false sense of entitlement. They fought for things so that you could benefit from them, not take advantage of them.

Not all women are worthy of respect, just like not all lawyers are selfish, and not all children are geniuses. And no, your newborn is not the cutest thing in the world. In fact, most newborns look rather like someone tried to make a giant raisin from an apple.

Male or female, in my eye, we all start out on equal ground. If you try to put yourself intrinsically above someone, the only use for you is to scrape the gunk from between society's toes. Never take yourself, or your group, too seriously. We're all a stain on some other part of society.

I would argue that instead of saying that things are male or female traits, we should find another duality. Mankind (HUMANKIND, for those who think MAN means male) lives and thinks in binary terms. Perhaps leader/follower, predator/prey, or active/passive, or dominant/submissive. These are gender-neutral.

As far as the whole 'milady' or hat-tipping culture goes, don't hate on it. It's a superficial thing. You can start taking offense if someone grabs your ass, but not when someone essentially says hello as they pass you on the street. Or holding the door open for you - I'm not trying to get into your pants. I hold the door for my little brother, what are you trying to suggest?


Again, none of this is directed at any one specific person. It's just things that my mind came up with. My two cents, if you will.

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Regarding the killing of feminism, that was meant to be an exaggeration. I'm surprised it was taken literally. As for the hat-tipping stuff, as I explained to you in chat, it's not about simple politeness, so no-one's trying to suggest anything about that, but about something else.

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In my defense, it can be difficult to hear a sarcastic tone when reading text. I've never been good at it, and I'm wrong when I assume someone is sarcastic. I can't win.

And the hat-tipping stuff, yeah you explained it to me in chat. Essentially a polite thing that has been turned into some asshole-ish act by guys who only wear the mask of decency, if I am correct to believe.

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Whoa there seems like you're on wrong SG

steamgifts.tumblr.com

There we go, now all you need to do now is : http://i.imgur.com/2HeKnb5.jpg (as you can see i uploaded a neat .jpg guide in case you're a woman)

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idk how this thread turned into a feminism battle.. xD but chill guys theres enough war in this world

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Yeah... well but it is fun to read right? It is at least for me... yawn

But still calling every woman in his generation "dumb" just because one girl or some girls (dunno) didn't pick him as boyfriend and instead decided to pick assholes (in his opinion [not me=asshole]) is rather not cool huh?

But still as you said… some people should chill out... yawn

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Oh man shut up, most of the girls i met around my age are freaking stupid, like brain damaged just as if they were dropped on their heads right when they were born. I would say the samething about guys, but i'm not into guys, sorry dawg.

-> Girls that show off their body and call guys perverts for calling out they are hot;

-> Girls that take photos of themselves showing off their attributes on the internets and putting moral lines like if they were angels when infact they are pure devils;

-> Girls that try and get a man crazy for them, and they basically laugh at you if you try and go for them with good intentions (aka bitches, they get sold out some way or another);

-> Girls saying they want to have relationships with men that are blond and have blue eyes only;

-> Girls that want relationships with popular guys that pretty much rides every girl in school (you know where this will go, guys that have mutliple choices) rather than accept honest guys;

-> Girls that want to have a relationship with a guy while being on a relationship;

-> Girls that insult the masculine side by saying We, the guys, are a bunch of kids since all we do is make up and have sex with multiple girls all the time, when infact there are still some of us who value others with feelings and aren't complete douches. Something i always tried to accomplish in a relationship, except i always had bad luck and picked the wrong girls to put my interest in. Ended up wasting my time.

I could keep on going with this list, but you are not worth my time. I do have my reasons for what i say, i a man, i have the balls to go up face to face with a girl and tell her my real intentions, thing is, society is messed up. People instead of getting smarted, they get dumber.

PS: I'm speaking about my generation, not older ones. I do well with older ladies when socializing, most people around my age are DUMB (cry some more). Even my parents and parents of close friends say "women/men aren't made like in the old days". POW RIGHT IN YOUR FACE. (CRY SOME MORE).

PPS: I used to be a nice guy, but y'know people who abuse of others like myself for their own things got me thinking in unmannered ways with life, i am mostly an asshole towards some people i do think they are dumb and idiotic because of what they have done to me. You can trust others in this world, everyone's an asshole towards the good people, so might aswell just be one myself and safekeep the very few nice people i see around me.

PPPS: I do call them whatever i want. The concept of real men also applies to women, girls will always be girls (dumb and immature), when one reaches the point of success in life where they actually start to use their brains, they "ascend" one step further and may be called "Adult", i see alot of "Young-Adults" who are immature and not worth being called "Man/Woman", it's something you earn.

PPPPS: Do you like whores? The way you defended yourself here pretty much points towards that.

PPPPPS: Keywords in this discussion: "Whores", "girls", "women", "generation".

PPPPPPS: (last one i promise) All of the things i write is most of the experience i had with people of my age or around my age. I seem to have much better experiences with older women, they value other people in different ways, it's something i like to see. New generations pretty much associates to the common fact of "use and get used".

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Also look @ Op's case. Pure "concept of dumb" in a chick.

Just throwing a FYI.

Out of all the girls i met, i think only one is actually being mature now, the one who keeps trying to talk to me over and over again for the last two years, after she messed up our close friendship big time, she still tries and talk to me once in a while, she knows i ignore her most of the time even when i reply back. I do give some value to what she is doing, though i do feel uncomfortable of giving her another chance, something i learnt not to since she messed up twice. The things she did, made her depressed the first year, she started smoking and taking pills, started collapsing and having some issues with stress (like issues with breathing and pain on the chest).

She was on a relationship with a d*ckhead who used her for sex every friday night (one of her close friends told me this), she said she loved me and would like to be on a serious relationship with me, she never quit her relationship with the other guy and she says she loved me, even though we were close friends. What the hell?
She lost me and her best friend because of this, 1 month later after the incident she broke up with the guy and now she is single for ages.

This is an example in life, what she did wasn't smart (it was dumb), if she wanted to be with me, she would have to pick either me or the other guy, the things she said and the things she did pretty much shows that she regretted everything. This is the most serious drama case i had in a close relationship in my life.

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Frankly speaking I feel bad about this… I mean you wrote hell of a long reply that any normal human would just omit without reading… fine... I'm not your every day "normal" person and I would feel bad if whole this time you spent on writing was wasted.

You really shouldn't generalize things…

What's wrong with seeking some characteristic traits in man/woman? Be it blonde hair, blue eyes… big breasts, small breasts, some type of figure, round head, oval head… we are all picky (be it man or woman) when it comes to choosing our partner. Woman tends to be more aware of this. But it is simple matter of genetics, we consciously or not seek partner with whom we will get offspring with desired genetic cocktail.

So what if some girls insult men. Is it kindergarten fight? "She called me stupid so I will call her ugly" That's how it looks. And yeah… calling girls dumb you aren't the best example of being gentleman… isn't that being douche?

Are you kidding me?! You produced 2 A4 pages of text and you tell me that I'm not worthy your time? Lad seeing this whole wall of text I feel that you treat me as King… you wasted so much time for me… that I would feel bad if I ignored you (believe me temptation to do so was huge)

Lad you are behaving like a kid… what are you 5 years old saying argument like "even my mommy thinks like that"… And you acted like saying something very clever… Lad that was stupid…

Being nice or being mean… what does it matter anyway? What I'm saying is be polite, you can have tongue like snake I don't care., but be polite. I'm not saying be good Samaritan… I never did… but offending woman… is kinda low…

Nah I'm kinda sure that concept of real man doesn't apply to woman…

Do I like whores? Dunno never met any… I don't need to use that kind of services. Well I do know that most of them didn't pick that kind of job voluntarily. Is poor woman who work as a prostitute to earn money for her children a whore or not?

Don't you feel tired? You repeat "my generation" this and that… but from my point of view you are part of that generation… and I can at least agree with you that you as a part of that generation are dumb. No offence, right? You are talking/ranting/whining … you probably spent half an hour to write all of this… and you know… all this text without single logical sentence…. That's bit long emotional cry… don't you think?

" Out of all the girls i met, i think only one is actually being mature now […] This is the most serious drama case i had in a close relationship in my life."

And exactly why are you telling me this? Do you open to every guy/girl on internet just like this? Sorry… but I'm not the right person for that kind of stories because… simply I don't care… ya I know that sounded awful… but that's the truth which I can't hide… well I could have ignore you just like I said… but… than you would lose half an hour of your GOD DAMN LIFE just for nothing. So in some weird way you should be thankful to me even if I think that you are boring, whining mollycoddle (I'm not going to use sissy again… after that panic attack no way).

I'm bit older than you… Life wasn't always nice for me, probably I could whine that some things went bad… But I'd rather keep walking. I won't change the past.., nor I will allow for some bad experience to influence my values, my priorities, my aims, my desires and all of that that makes ME. I am the master of my life! I won't shed responsibilities onto others… LIFE SOMETIMES SUCKS DEAL WITH IT, it's not reason to act like a bug.

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