i like everything but your cpu since i prefer amd over intel amd's 8 core cpu looks realy nice 4.0ghzx8 might need a diffrent motherboard if you wanted to choose that though
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Having more than 4 core is quite useless just for gaming, and AMD processor use a lot of power without being much more powerful than Intel's ones (often are behind Intel in the same price range, while still demanding more Watts).
The i5 he wrote is very good and can even overclocked if he want.
Overall it will be a great computer at a good price.
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Don't go AMD 8 core cpu over a third generation Intel i5 or i7! They are still first generation pcs and completely bottlenecked - your'll get 60-80% more performance out of the i5, seriously... AMD 8 core is rubbish these days until they can catch up. Intel maxed out cpu performance so did 2 gen (sandy) and 3 gen (ivy bridge) which removes some bottlenecks by having the redesigning the entire motherboard and cpu to work together as one - direct access from cpu to memory and cpu to graphic card, boosting performance. As for 8 cores, your games will never use them, unless you like application development.
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also get a solid state hard drive they are awesome
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That's an old myth (because the first ones actually had a small limit, and worst technology that wouldn't allow them to remap the data efficiently to less used cells). But with today's drives you can write continuously to them for several years non-stop without "depleting" them.
The problem is more with size, since anything >128GB gets quite expensive, and games use several GB each.
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^ this. Also, old (and pretty bad) Sandforce controllers causing issues helped keep this story alive.
Original point is far more important - for gaming, all an SSD does it help load files faster. However, a loading game uses CPU to load assets etc and prep. them for display and so on. Having an SSD would often just cause files to be loaded to memory so fast they'd just sit there waiting to be processed, not speeding the whole shebang up that much. Unless you value a precious 1 1/2 - 2 seconds, max.
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Highly recommended getting SSD - a small one will do, just use as cache on top of your Black Edition HDD (Setup Raid 0 Acceleration from Intel Rapid Storage / Smart Cache). Intel Smart Response Technology - your motherboard should support it nicely.
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My opinion: do NOT get and AMD processor (reference to the first reply) and maybe add some more ram. But it looks pretty good for that price, doesn't look like you'll need to upgrade it for quite a while (other than the ram if you're sticking to 4 gigs)
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When the cpu and motherboard work together on the third gen pcs, the biggest bottleneck now ends up actually at the hard drive speed and graphics card. System memory isn't an issue as it's directly accessed and boosted via the motherboard. Graphic card memory and performance on the other hand is where it all ends up. I can easily get min 60fps+ on all the latest games in hardcore action at ultra settings, overclocking is a think of the past, it's redunant now except for power users who want to benchmark 120fps to 130fps, lol. SSD cache is a good investment as well as a really good graphics card - 680GTX if you can, you won't regret it.
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I'm doing some research and i'm now more confused than before. I get into the i5 2500k that apparently is very similar to the 3570k but it's cheaper and it is better for overclocking. So it's the 3570k a good choice, can you feel the his impact in the gaming or it's better to take a 2500k?
In case the 2500k would be a better choice, the motherboard would be good anyway or i have to look for another?
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Holy balls that's the same build as mine except for the case. O.o
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Very happy with it, 200+ fps on Bf3, the only problem is that the graphics card overheats on games like Bf3 alot, so get another fan.
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This is a surprisingly solid build. Came into this thread, thinking it would be terrible, but it is not at all. I would make some recommendations though.
Do yourself a favour, dont use the stock intel. Even the Hyper 212 or something similar will be much better. Buy some decent fans for it and you are good to go. Bitfenix for instance, corsair or cougar.
Buy a modular PSU. It is much cleaner looking, better for airflow and makes it easier to clean and maintain.
Buy an SSD. I know, they seem expensive, but you will only thank yourself. They are cheap in comparison to the performance you get. 60GB is enough for OS!
Thats it really.
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I was thinking of changing the stock cooler with an other but where I buy, there isn't the Hyper 212 so I thought that maybe a hyper 412s would be the alternative, the problem is that maybe is bigger what do you think, it will fit in the computer? If no what alternative, under 40 euro, can you recommend that, if possible, is sold in the shop where I want to buy(e-key.it or/and amazon.it)?
EDIT:
Ok, the 412s require low profile ram so it's not my case, any alternative?
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my motherboard didnt have any 20 pin usb 3 connectors only the 4 pin usb 3.0 connectors so I had to connect it using a pci adapter.
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Memory is so cheap compared to the other components, i would buy 2 pieces of 8 GB module. Probably some kit.
Also 2TB hdd is way better on the capacity/price. I got a WD 2000GB Caviar Green 5400rpm 64MB SATA3 WD20EARX
WARNING READ THIS:
http://www.ngohq.com/news/19805-critical-design-flaw-found-in-wd-caviar-green-hdds.html
and use this or the official WD version: http://idle3-tools.sourceforge.net/
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-CPU: Intel i5-3570k, using the stock cooler
Ok, not really necessary to get K if you wont overclock it.
-MOTHERBOARD: AsRock z77 extreme 4
Im not really fan of AsRock, anyway you can cut down some price there if you get something like MSI GD55, or even better get mATX board for even less with same "feature range" since FullATX is overkill nowadays.
-GRAPHIC CARD: evga Nvidia Geforce GTX 660 TI
Ok, but i would definitely prefer some non-stock cooling and evga is usually quite overpriced (especilly since theyre selling reference card, so there isnt really any reason for that).
-RAM: CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR3 1600mhz cl9 2 x 4GB
Fine
-HARD DISK: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
SSD dude
-PSU: Corsair Enthusiast TX650 v2
Overkill, you can run this system on decent 400w overclocked, and if youre still scared then get 500w Seasonic OEM.
-CASE: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer
Im not fan of plastic look of this, i would go for Fractal Design Define R3/4.
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Honestly I wouldn't get that mobo because it has bad mosfets. I would just go for Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H, Biostar Z77XE3/XE4, or MSI GD55/65 to give the best stability. For GPU, it would be better to get a nonref card by MSI or Gigabyte for best cooling and performance. For ram, it would be better to go with the Samsung ones since those OC to 2133 on air or the cheaper Mushkins Blackline/G.Skill Ripjaws X.
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I have the same processor, RAM and graphics card, and they are fantastic.
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Your picks are great -
i5-3570k is ideal for gaming purposes, i7 has only a little boost more. I would suggest if your not overclocking, go ivy bridge motherboard / cpu, without the k, maybe even getting a i7 instead for around the same cost. If overclocking (which isn't really needed), get a sandy bridge cpu + 2nd or 3rd gen motherboard. The ivy cpu has overheating issues when overclocked and sandy will actually outperform it here. I would personally however not overclock, it's not required these days with a good machine.
1600Mhz 8GB Ram is optimal for gaming (no more / no less), as faster wastes money with not much as a 1% performance boost in games and slower might bottleneck.
Motherboard is a great pick for gaming, and pretty good layout wise.
Graphic card - leading at the moment is nVidia, great for gaming. Your's is a fine pick 660TI for mid/high gaming purposes.
PSU is fine, i suggest around 700W incase you want to SLI in future.
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For the processor, I am going to suggest the...
AMD FX 6-Core Processor Black Edition. It's a beast at overclocking, and for the price, works fantastic.
Good luck! (:
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I know there are other topics about it and i can check guides to how to choose and so on but i want the opinions to be personal to my build.
So my computer has some years now and limit me on on playing games at their full potential, so i thought that it's time at least to think at what can i get instead.
For now I tried to choose some pieces that seems to be good but this is the first time i build a computer and I haven't a good knowledge about hardware(I never cared before).
This is what i chosen so far:
-CPU: Intel i5-3570k, using the stock cooler
-MOTHERBOARD: AsRock z77 extreme 4
-GRAPHIC CARD: evga Nvidia Geforce GTX 660 TI EDIT: now i'm changing idea and going, maybe, to an hd7950(but which of them?)
-RAM: CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR3 1600mhz cl9 2 x 4GB
-HARD DISK: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
-PSU: Corsair Enthusiast TX650 v2
-CASE: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer EDIT: maybe i've change idea also on the case now i'm more for a corsair 500r(I like his design, what do you think?)
It's a good build? Am i missing or can i change something?
The price of this would cost me about 866 euro.
What do you think about it, can you give some hits?
EDIT(after the comments): i would prefer to not use AMD and ATI pieces in my computer cause i've always had problem with those.
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