Developers giving betas?... This is kidding?

Well first of all they want people to try the game to see if they like it and if they like it people will buy and if people buy it they get money. I really don't see why it matters just leave them alone and let them do what they want

In my days you were payed to test games.
Now they use this trick.

i know, i want free games also. who cares that it takes time, money, and skills to make a quality video game. They already made it, so now they should just give us all copies of the game. What was that? Devs need to eat? I need to eat too and by they giving me the full game, I can save money to go buy myself a meal.

Just won one a Chivalry beta key. Haters gonna hate

who say you have to give them feedback?

I am against it, I think allowing and even giving full contributor value makes sg look bad

I have a feeling that if the giveaways were for betas of some high profile game people wouldn't bitch one bit... But since most of the titles have been obscure it's "the system is flawed!"

Feel free not to enter.

In fact, having those developer giveaways benefits you in several real, measurable ways.
1) Their creation gives you points.
2) Their existance pulls entries from other people, reducing their available points for entering giveaways you want, improving your chances.

These giveaways are sanctioned by cg, the person who owns steamgifts. If YOU feel you somehow have the rights to dictate how this site (which, by the way, is designed ENTIRELY for YOUR benefit) is run, then you might want to consider where you got this absurd sense of entitlement, and how you can get it under control.

Forum search. Please, learn use. No post same thread.
They no force you enter. Why you care...

Bah, I can't write like that anymore! Seriously dude, except that you're complaining about Developer Beta giveaways I didn't understand at ALL what you said or what your point is supposed to be.

Also, really... are so many people so spoiled as to complain that the Developers of a game are mass-giving the Betas? They don't care about contribution, they won't use it to enter giveaways. So why do you care?! Why don't you complain when they gift them on Facebook for example?

gift is not gift if it will be taken away. its just wrong place to "giveaway" betas.need some more sites for example
steambetagifts.com or steambetakeysgifts.com

Beggars can't be choosers

Wanna know what i think?

Pancakes.

God bless the culture of entitlement.

The only problem I have with betas/developer giveaways is how it messes up the "top contributor" stats (which in itself is quite unimportant, but it is at least a minor reward for the top contributors to be seen on that list).
Apart from that, this whole thing reminds me of a person who told me that elder scrolls games were better on consoles because they could not be modded there (the person claimed that it was work to mod games, therefore it was better if you could not do it, thus entirely missing the part of it being optional to TES games on PC).

Also, when skimming through some of the comments above, I noticed that some people who argued against betas really don't understand basic marketing and how markets work in general.

good publicity... problem?

stop being so entitled.

I am happy with developer beta giveaways as long as it doesnt count towards my recieved moneyness

If you don't want to play the betas, try not to win them.

I don't know why the "I want to play betas" and the "I don't want to play betas" crowds can't peacefully coexist. I understand that some people think it's a shitty thing for developers to do, offering betas and not full games, and I could see getting rid of this if EVERYONE thought that way. However, there are people who don't think that way, and would gladly spend their points on a beta for the chance to play a game early. Maybe a little bit more transparency could be useful (something like an expected release date listed in the description so potential entrants know roughly how long they'll have to play the game), but other than that I see no problems.

As for WHY developers are allowed to give beta keys and not players? I really don't know. Maybe the devs are paying the site for the advertisement potential. If that's the case, then it allows this site to flourish and I'm all for it.

Its simple, if you dont like them, dont join them

Beta giveaways are nice (In my opinion) due to the fact that it enables winners to try out their game, potentially recommend it to others, sometimes even cause them to buy older/future titles, thus further promoting their game or company. I see no downside. You don't have to participate if you don't like it, but some people may enjoy the game and want to be able to try it out early or before purchasing. Though I understand yours, and everyone else who opposes the Beta giveaways, opinion, I respectfully disagree with it.

What is this I don't even...

I see threads all of the time with people trying to justify their piracy (which is stealing, however you want to justify it) by bitching that game companies don't give them demos (something noone is entitled to, if you don't like that they don't give a demo, don't buy their product).

And now that some game companies ARE trying to give out betas (like a demo of sorts), you bitch about that too? I realize it is not all the same people, but I do see a lot of people here complaining and suspect there is some crossover.

So much entitlement.

Wow OP, really ? You make a thread b*tching about how bad Beta giveaways are, and then you enter the giveaway for Chivalry: Medieval Warfare Beta ? Hypocrite much ?