I got the key in an official ARK: Survival Evolved event.
Proof:
http://s24.postimg.org/myas5vryr/2015_11_01_00001.jpg
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It is a full cd-key, it's 100% cd-key discout :) Try it out, if you don't believe me or ask on the official ARK forums
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So is there any possibility to remove his rep? And what did you mean by SteamRep?
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http://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/490124466457486772/
It's not invalid mate, check the "Supply Drops" section of the official event post made by a game dev, please. It's 100% a free ARK copy.
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You can message the source of your key to see if they can issue a new one and revoke the original - I've done that with PS4 keys that scammers tried to do and Steam may actually block the account based on the mountain of proof provided (Sony did on 2 occasions in my past scam encounters). Regardless of how you address this issue, in the future screenshot/video all conversations and save receipts for the key sources, and last but not least - remember that 10/-3 does not equal 7/0.
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Thanks, but the key was won in an event. So there's no chance of revoking it. But thanks for the advice anyways
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It doens't matter. You could still try - Steam can deactivate any Steam key from any account they want.
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Yeah, but the fact that I found the key in a in-game event gives steam 0 proof that I was the actual owner of the key.
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You never had a working cd-key. You grabbed a dupe cube.
https://www.reddit.com/r/playark/comments/3ioepv/ark_codes_how_to_get/
the cube is still in the game so for people looking to find these you may find cubes which have codes already used.
Never make a giveaway or a trade for a game you don't actually own. (i.e. never trade games you "won" unless it's a tradeable item like a Steam gift)
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Please stop this or read the entire thread. We've already been over this man, it's very annoying to get accused of something I've already sorted out.
[ http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/ZsMlU/scammers-giving-bad-rep#HIVW7dI ]
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Thanks for assuming I didn't read the entire thread. But it is obvious you didn't read mine. My post isn't invalidated by anything else posted. If you won the key in the few ARK:SE events you'd have proof. You can screenshot the item. You've provided 0 proof and will likely be ignored by SG staff.
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I gave my brother one of the codes that I found the exact same way. He got his free game.
(If it wasn't obvious, a different Jack-O-Lantern item)
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I screenshoted the items, it's only available in-game man. You don't have it in your steam inventory or anything else. I don't understand what you're saying.
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I don't see any screenshots in your posts.
Even the devs of the game screenshotted it so people would know what to look for when they announced it.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=543806013
You could at least screenshot the item with the code revealed to provide an iota of credibility.
Even then, the key can already be used because you can pickup already used cubes or jacko's.
I'm just trying to help you understand that you shouldn't be doing it the way you're doing it -- how you made the thread with no proof of your claims and initially trying to trade a key you didn't own.
Hope you fair better next time, good luck.
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So you really didn't read the entire thread...
http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/ZsMlU/scammers-giving-bad-rep#yk3e0RP
And for the second point:
http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/ZsMlU/scammers-giving-bad-rep#Y0W4lKR
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Ok, I understood what you were saying, somehow the quote was visible for me only after refreshing the page. It wasn't a used code because: I was the only person that found it in the drop and after it got revealed (which was about 1 or 3 hrs, I don't remember, but you had to wait a few hrs for it to get revealed) It stayed the whole time in my inventory where noone else could have seen it, after it got revealed I made a screenshot of it and dumped it and waited for it to despawn (while no one was around) So there's absolutely 0% chance of it being used before.
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What people should do:
- Checking SteamRep of given guy
- Checking SteamGifts rep of given guy
- Making sure they're not dealing with impersonator
What people shouldn't do:
- Creating threads on SG about getting scammed
What people are doing:
- Creating threads on SG about getting scammed
What people are not doing:
- Checking SteamRep of given guy
- Checking SteamGifts rep of given guy
- Making sure they're not dealing with impersonator
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Very helpful, thank you a lot.
- I am not making a thread about how I got scammed, I made a thread about how a scammer gave me bad rep :)
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You agreed to trade with him even though he had -3 Rep?
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Yeah, he made me believe that he got that -3 Rep from users with low reputation / potential scammers. For example from users like me now. Because of him I have -Rep
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Yeah, I know, I was a bit desperate and the guy was a really good scammer. Said all the right words and all.
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Not always the case. Go and have a look at my rep here. I wasn't even aware of it till a trade partner pointed it out and it's clearly per-pubescent spam. I reported misuse of trade feedback almost a month ago and haven't had a response yet, and it's misuse regardless of the content as there was never a trade with that user.
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You basically stated that anyone who doesn't have flawless rep isn't safe to trade with. I don't have a massive amount of feedback here as I only trade my bundle leftovers and rarely buy bundles anymore.
Go and actually look at my trade feedback and tell me how that one negative I have even remotely implies I'm anything but an honest trader. Anyone who holds that against me isn't worth the hassle of trading witg and as j pointed out earlier, I didn't know I had it until a trade partner mentioned it.
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So there isn't much chance that they'll remove mine either...
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I'm beginning to think staff ignores those requests entirely. :X
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Probably a lot of true scammers are making the same kind of tickets. So I guess it's hard to make a difference between liars and people that really need to have their rep removed. But his reputation is obviously like he called it "per-pubescent spam". So I don't understand why his didn't get removed...
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No, I mean, ignore as in 'don't even look at them'.
I don't think they've got anyone paying any attention to the request type, given what I've seen in my time here, and user comments to that effect, and my own experience with it.
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Yeah, it does seem to be the case with the other users. I guess we'll have to see what happens with my ticket.
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I'm sorry to say that your ticket could be status "pending" for many months.
I have one user report ticket pending for 9 months now.
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Wow... That's really getting me down :/ I mean, these unanswered tickets makes the scammers win
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I'm no oracle but imhpo: the time between that a scammer is reported to SG support and the time that SG support reacts to that ticket is the time that a scammer is getting away with it and very possibly makes new victims.
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Yeah, I'm starting to believe more and more that that's the case around here...
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Yep took me two months to get a bad trade rep removed from my profile, and I'd never even traded. LOL
(the guy gave it to me because he didn't agree with what I said in the forums about something)
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So there are cases when admins remove the reps. That's good to know.
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Yeah if it's some nonsense and can be proven false (in my case I had no trades ever), they'll remove it without issue.
For some reason, some people seem to think it's cute to give -rep for silly things.
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I have one dating back three years. I could close it but I don't know whether it's been actioned or not as we can only see current/permanent suspensions
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Isn't there only Rinarin working on them? Or did they change that?
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I certainly wouldn't know, but that seems likely, from what I understand of their dynamic.
My point was more that it seems to be a low-priority category that you can effectively assume won't get addressed, regardless of the reasons behind that. Wasn't a criticism, persay, just a "Oh, I've given up on it". :P
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At least it's better than Steam support...or is it? xD
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Well, i've been scammed by a +20 rep guy, not an impersonator, i asked support to remove my -rep on my profile... they didn't do nothing
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This thing is really annoying. It shouldn't be this way.
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Ikr, now i get less people trading with me because they think i'm making things up... oh well, hope support answers me asap.
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issues with trading are complex because even if you have proof, it can be faked.
it's really difficult unless someone gets a lot of bad rep from multiple users and it's obvious he's scamming.
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It would be 100% obvious he scammed me if only I could reach the chat we had on steam... I reacted very impulsively and lost the chat and after getting blocked, I have no idea how to access it again.
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Any definitive ways that can't be faked at all that I could prove I've been the one scammed?
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As far as I know - 100% proof is impossible. You provide all the proof you can and hope that enough reports from other honest users will do the trick, I guess (of course if you are the only one scammed, that wouldn't work well, but that's rarely the case).
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I'm trying to get in touch with the other users that claimed have been scammed by this person.
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HoreaM does have 1 advantage since the other guy has ARK on his profile he either activated the key or couldn't just know it was a fake key right away.
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It seems like they had it already though. They could have tried to activate it on another account and failed. (not saying I think HoreaM is lying, just that by itself it's not much).
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He told me that he had a copy of ARK and refunded it. He has activated my key on his main profile, I'm almost certain.
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They helped me in finding out I need to make a ticket
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tl;dr version for approaching steamgifts:
When in doubt, always make a support ticket.
Use the 'Other' or 'Request New Giveaway Winner' categories when in doubt, as those are the only two categories that all staff members can see [and thus are far, far more likely to get a speedy response].
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Yeah, done, thanks :) Waiting for a response, but seeing what others described here, I'm not getting my hopes too high.
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Geez, the guy came here asking politely for help and suggestions and some old members just answer with sarcasm and downright accusations (for which, once proven wrong, no apologies were made too)?
I'm not a very active user of the comminity here yet, but I gotta say... some people doesn't seem very friendly despite all the love they give with the GAs they create.
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I guess it's natural that they don't believe my story with the initial post, but could have asked for more proof instead of firing accusations... Thank you for the support though.
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It happens in every thread similar to this one. I can sort of understand it when the thread is basically just "I got scammed :( give me sympathy", but if the person is legitimately asking for advice, there's really no excuse for bitching at him or her.
"You should have done this or that" is pointless, it's already happened and they already regret what happened. Just politely advise them on what to do in the future, or ignore the thread.
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Managed to contact one other person that got scammed by the same guy. He's ticket is also pending for months... Very discouraging...
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Yeah, this is the downside of the system here, hope you can solve this problem.
The only thing you can do is make sure you won't get scammed (I know, easy to say). Don't take chances and only go first if he has more +rep than you (and no -rep at all ofc).
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Yeah, but now, according to your post, I don't have many trade chance in the future (as I now only have -1 rep). I'm only a bit mad about losing the key and allowing him to fool me, but I'm very mad that he also had to destroy my trading rep, before it even started.
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trade only with people that have like +100 rep, build yours this way.
just be sure you don't deal with an impersonator.
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Well, I think it's enough to just go with anyone with 10+ good rep and go first. It won't be easy tho that's for sure, the -rep will make peeps suspicious, just don't give up.
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Yeah... In my opinion it's really not the best system right now... Because scammers and scammed people have the same right to post feedback, they naturally each post - feedback on each other's profile. We both posted negative feedback for each other, so there's obviously a scammer between the two of us. The scammer must be found and one of the feedbacks should be deleted for this feedback system to keep it's integrity.
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Hi, other then checking steam profile/friendlist through the rep page, any other advice on spotting a impersonator?
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well consider this a price for having unsafe trade with an unknown person on internet, maybe next time u will be more careful
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That's not very helpful, but yeah, I have learned my lesson.
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What did u trade for/with btw? For games or cash? I am just curious about the story/items he came up with to get you to trade with him.
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So my first trade and I get scammed off of my ARK: Survival Evolved cd-key by this guy that has +10/-3 ( now -4 ) reputation. So naturally, I wait for him to respond, and when I know I got 100% scammed, I gave him a negative feedback. But no, it doesn't end there, he gets to give me a negative feedback as well, claiming a whole other story. I want that negative reputation from the scammer gone from my profile. He claims on my feedback that I never gave him the cd-key and it was invalid. There you go: exact same cd-key I have him, ARK: Survival Evolved, "duplicate product" : 9H33H-3HQQ8-PL7AN
Now I want to make screenshots of what we talked on steamchat, but I can't find the chat with him because he blocked communications with me after scamming me. What can I do?
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