Oh it is REALLY easy to prove it. Get a good lawyer and you should be fine. And be sure to get lot's of money and try for news coverage. It's the police we are talking about so milk these bastards and use the money for GA's! Ok not all of them. Or charity. Or whatever. Anyway. Get a good lawyer and everything will be fine.
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I wish you luck, that is a really shitty thing those cops did to you.
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Sounds like you're going to court. Get a lawyer (or whatever they use in your country), and learn from this entire experience. There are times to take a stand and bear the consequences of doing so, but you have to pick your battle wisely. There's a saying in the military.... "Ask yourself if this is the hill you want to die on." If the answer is "No," then just move onward.
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Bad deal all the way around; sorry it happened.
Hope things work out!
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You would think the letter would've been addressed towards the company, and it's the company which is reporting this, so looking up law on this "
"company phone" on where to report this, was clearly business use, no?
could you go to head of police about this matter? going to the same corrupt station probably was a good idea so said people are made to fear police
also sorry to hear this bullshit that has been put on you
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Welcome in Poland
Jeśli chodzi o listy to spodziewaj się ich wielu. Ja przy każdej zakładanej działalność uzyskiwałem ok 15. Co do Policjanta to jest to przykład górowania Policjanta nad zwykłym człowiekiem, ponieważ podważyłeś jego decyzje. Jako, ze jesteś z Wrocławia to może nie będziesz miał pecha, ale jakby Taki Policjant dostał pozew o używanie prywatnego telefonu i czytanie wiadomości ( który z nerwów bym wysłał i wynalazł pierdyliard paragrafów na to) to po tym nie miałbyś życia, bo byłbyś zatrzymywany za każdym razem i mandaty leciałyby codziennie. Jeśli chcesz iść do sadu to nie lokalnego + jak powiedział kasztoix narób afery. I to jak najszybciej, póki są wybory i zapewne jeśli coś takiego trafi do gazety to wyborcy nie beda mogli sobie pozwolić na takie numery i dostanie po łapkach.
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Po tej całej jeździe mimo, że chciałbym skurczysynom dokopać to wolałbym również mieć już z nimi jak najmniej wpólnego, a juz najlepiej nie mieć nigdy nic wspólnego - już się pobawiłem w bojownika o słuszną sprawę przychodząc z tym listem i co mi z tego przyszło? Nawet nie chcę myśleć o ilości bullshitu, przez który musiałbym przechodzić sądząc się z nimi o ten telefon :/
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Dlatego napisałem, ze teraz miałbyś siłę rozgłosu, bo są wybory, ale później to może odwrócić się przeciwko Tobie, więc nie warto. niestety Prawo nie jest dla normalnych ludzi. Ono służy po to, aby być obojętnym. Jak widzisz zgłosiłeś i chciałeś dobrze, a tutaj jeszcze miałeś komplikacje, bo jakiś Policjant poczuł się obrażony, że znasz się na paragrafach lepiej, niż on. Dla mnie tacy ludzie nie powinni pracować z petentami, ale wujek, ciotka, szwagier nie wywali go przecież, a dokopanie często obróci się przeciwko Tobie. Wiem, bo kiedyś kumpel podpadł jednej policjantce i potrafił przywieść mandaty w wysokości 1000 zł przez tydzień i nikt z tym nic nie zrobi.
Mimo wszystko życzę powodzenia z własną działalnością. Najgorszy jest 1 rok. Później najgorszy jest już tylko ZUS :D
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Z samą działalnością nie będzie nawet takiego problemu dużego - została założona dlatego, że nowy pracodawca mojej lubej jest w IR i tam mają inne rozliczenia i bardziej się mu opłaca ją na działalność w PL zatrudnić i nawet opłacać przez pierwsze 2 ulgowe lata wszystkie zusy-srusy etc w ramach firmy-podwykonawcy, niż zatrudnić ją na umowę o pracę na ichnich prawach. Proste porównanie - za tą samą posadę w tej samej firmie od polskiego outsourcera na umowie o pracę na rękę dostawała 60% mniej niż robiąc jako polska firma robiąca outsource z Irlandii uwzględniając że firma jej ZUS, zdrowotke, rentówke etc i tak opłaca...
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Well, short solution. Cops suck and will always suck. Have a vodka, calm down and let it go.
Long solution, just call your phone provider and ask for a complete print of calls made and if possible internet data useage. The list of phone calls made have exact date and time stamps so you have proof to make a case against them and make them dicks pay.
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I wish you the best of luck, Zel. I have no idea how the court system and law works in Poland, but I hope you come out well in the end.
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sad story
you shouldnt do that phone thing......
you were sure so first you had to hire a lawyer and none of this would happen....
and right no i suggest you to get a good lawyer or at least talk to one see if there is any loophole or something.....(ah man in cases like this Saul Goodman would really comes in handy)....
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next time put a lock or something on your phone + you can always lock you phone (and maybe monitor with some apps) remotely ......
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Holy fucking shit.
Holy.. fucking .. shit.
I cant believe that. That is one of the most CRUEL things i have ever read in my life! ;-;
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You should go to the medias!
In Denmark, if shit like this happened to ANYBODY, they would go to the medias. TV, Magazines, Internet News Websites, they will take a case like that. When the case gets exposed, people will get mad and show their opinion, resulting in your case being dismissed.
Go to the medias.
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Same in Poland. That's one thing you can definitely do. It can be brought to the papers. They love this sort of sensations.
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God... anyway if you go to court you will have all the evidence to proof not only that you are inocent but also that the cops are and that company are bullshit
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Whole story:
FRIDAY:
My fiance started her own company 3 weeks ago. Last week she received a mail - inside was something looking like an official letter from government, with official stamps etc - calling her to pay 195 PLN (46EUR) for mandatory registration in "Polish Companies Registry. Below was a blanket to send money via bank transfer. On the other side of sheet of paper there was written with small letters that "This is just an advertisement. No payment is mandatory. We are not government agency, but just private company".
WEDNESDAY:
We went with that letter to police to report a fraud attempt. 1st policeman told us it's not a fraud, because there's this text on the other side. We said we'd like to report anyway and let a court decide if it's a fraud or not. He told us we'll have to wait for his supervisor.
His supervisor comes, we tell whole story over again - he says he cannot take our statement cause it's no Police work and we should go to civil court if we want to. I take out my smartphone and google through polish law codexes and show him a point that it's not a matyter for civil court but for the police. Very unhappy he writes down a statement then he asks me for a smartphone I just googled it on. I think he wants to copy what paragraph number it is or something, but no - he puts a smartphone into an evidence bag. WTF? - I ask. "You used your company's smartphone for private matters, which is against the law.". "It's not company's smartphone! It's my private phone. Plus I bought it over 1.5 year ago while company is up for just 1.5 week!". "In this case we will have to verify it - if it's really private smartphone, not a company one. You can take it back in 24 hours". "Can I at least have my SIM card back?". "No, SIM card is part of protected evidence now". He gives me piece of paper to come back tommorow for my phone.
THURSDAY :
I go to pick up my phone. They give it back to me - batterry dead. I go back t home, charge it - and what do I see? 26 calls made while phone was there, whole internet package used, shitload of some useless shitty apps from "money-for-download" pages installed. I go back to police to report it. What do I hear? "You probably made all these calls and downloaded all this stuff right now, while changing phone clock, just to blame police". For next few minutes I try to calmly resolve this issue - but I hear that if I don't stop talking I'm the one who they will arrest for fraud on them - as I obviously try to scam them for compensation right now. The moment I hear it I break - I scream on an idiot who tells me this that he must be a moron, that the fucking Android would change all timers the moment I'd change time, and that some fucking asshole from their fucking police station is just a thief that decided to use smartphone which was suposed to be evidence to save himself some money and earn some fucking credits on some shitty website for downloading shitty aps.
Next thing I know I lie on the ground handcuffed behind my back. They take me to prosecutors and I find out I'm charged with insulting police officer (because I used vulgar language) and resisting an arrest (yeah - me fat, unhealthy nerd resisted 3 bigass muscled cops who were lying on me and handcuffing me). And I hear I now face a threat of big fine or up to one year of jail time... So yeah - that's my story - if you read up to here the GA cove is hidden right after Thursday.
AFTER NECRO EDIT
OK... idk why the hell someone necroed such an old topic, you're an idiot dear sir, but as for update how things ended up:
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