Make the site paid, $1 for every post you want to visit, $5 to enter a GA.
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Honestly doesn't sound like a bad idea. I would give the giveaway host the option to sell entries at $1-5, and get 25% of the profits. Of course that would be optional and they could still give away games for free.
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money would drastically change the system but the optional thing is really interesting
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It only would result in people suing cg because they paid so much and never won anything. It's a scam!
And that's only one reason why it would be a stupid idea.
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isnt it gambling/hazard and you need special permissions for that ?
not to mention taxes and irs thingy
VERY bad idea
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no one would enter them then and the site would die quick
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with all the leechers and stingy users around, for sure
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So what you are saying is that instead of making giveaways, you want to sell keys, but in the form or pretense of a giveaway. So you pay $5 for a chance to win a game? Sounds like some NFT scam to me.
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We can only hope it was a sarcastic take on the current social media situation.
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Then it becomes a raffle and not a giveaway in the US by law. Not sure about laws, but as it's international it would open up a LOT of possibilities for legal action. Wouldn't work out for long is what I'm saying.
Also, price wise that's ridiculous.
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Agreed. The site would die, or become yet another grey-market website.
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would be illegal in several country though, there is specific law about raffle where you use realy money to enter
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could also qualify as gambling in some countries.. which is usually heavily regulated .. and yeah, those prices are insane, especially given the average price of most games that are given away here
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Just buy the bundle instead of entering the GA then....
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1) Implement any kind of captcha system for entering giveaways
2) Implement automated checks for unactivated wins and in case of unactivated win, user would be prevented from entering all giveaways until games are present on account. knsys(author of SGTools) can provide list of false positives.
3) Resolve my support tickets, heheh
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5) run anti-autojoiner tool and ban all autojoiners
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Wouldn't the captcha part take care of that though?
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I saw a similar story a long time ago...
Who defines it as a political topic?
The response to executing that task would be to seal off comment and discussion.
It's a source of more intense framing if it goes along with each country's principles and arguments.
The range of nationalities of the top steamgift users and SG supporters is astonishingly wide.
At least everyone, for the most part, is able to have "some freedom of expression and speech" because the discussion is outside of their country.
(There are some areas of the world where 2 or 3 words can undermine social credibility with an AI decision)
And since we don't know what is "forbidden on the other side", it would be more natural to establish guidelines such as if you are going to speak on some issue, do so in an off-topic discussion and not engage in a reply war in other discussions or in the GA comments section.
(It would be safe to go so far as to ask people to avoid it with a supplement that there is such a forbidden interpretation)
The idea of separating what might be a political topic into categories would also be the easiest way to go, in your opinion.
But who decides what is a "political topic" in the first place? This is the source of the flame war. Prudence is required.
In any case, as the guidelines say, "Be a gentleman.
It is unfortunate that a small percentage of people are swearing and cursing on topics that conflict with some political issues.
As long as it is "silent," it does not violate the guidelines as a general rule.
It seems that meaningless posts or a series of posts will get you a warning.
In any case, when a supporter responds to a penalty with the perception of "politics," there is a strong inflammatory element of suppression of speech or being beholden to a particular country, so I, personally, would prefer to settle for a gentleman's caution.
Well, we can at least ask each person to put what they think might be a political topic in the political category....
However, I understand that this is a gaming community and that some people would prefer not to see so much politics in normal times, except when it is used as a refuge in case some blue bird goes crazy or Internet service suddenly stops.
I have examined a similar need in the form of a proposal for a category of "war" and whether or not it is necessary, in a matter similar to yours. Reference.
Bugs / Suggestions
Would you like to add a topic category for the topic of war?
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This. Even if you exclude interculturality for a second, the term political is just too subjective. Such a rule would mean that some people can't speak about anything personal because their lives are considered "political", for instance because they're affected by a war, or by oppression, or are part of a marginalized group. (Also remember that which people are marginalized and which topics are controversial varies from country to country).
An alternative would be ruling out any discussions that are not related to games or this site. I personally like that we don't have such a rule, though. The option to hide/block discussions that you don't want to see could be another solution.
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It seems that in the current day and age, nearly everything can be twisted to be "political", sadly. I long for the days when this (politicizing everything) will not be the case.
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I fully agree with those points, that way we get way less bots which would make the site way more fun for the real people.
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For number 2, I feel like that should only happen after the 1 week for marking keys. I had an unactivated win for a week since the creator was suspended and I think being restricted from entering all giveaways because the creator hasn't or can't send the key and you can't mark it not received is a bit harsh.
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I can already imagine how people enter a captcha 20-40 times a day
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There's one time that I cannot pass a captcha test for 6 minutes straight, then I have to use an addon to access a certain website.
Well, after that incident, I feel less human now.
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Lately I often can't pass a captcha, I have a feeling that this is a robot captcha against humans
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Something that honestly may make this better is the 'Privacy Pass Captcha Authorisation'. I personally haven't looked too deep into it. But I know it's being implemented by cloudflare. Essentially what it does, is if you solve a captcha, you get some tokens to bypass a number of future captchas without your input. So that would make it a bit more bearable.
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Some kind of automatic check for unactivated wins to enter all giveaways, I guess, like sgtools
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This and an increased blacklist limit to patreon users. I can be petty.
Also, I wonder if it's possible to flag users who do stuff like post/enter giveaways 5 times in one second, or if that's too much for the website to handle.
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Simple enough, here's a userstyle to hide all comments in discussions 😂
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@name SteamGifts - No More Discussions
@namespace https://www.steamgifts.com/user/ormax3
@author ormax3
@version 1.0
==/UserStyle== */
@-moz-document url-prefix("https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/") {
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there is waaaayyy less drama now, I remember certain user and it's side monkey who made quit several users from the site and was praised by too many minions
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Someone with a red girl avatar and the side kick with a joker avatar. I'll be damned if I'll remember those shithead names. But sure sounds like them-they would ruin any topic they enter at will and a posse of dumbfucks would praise them too.
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Huh. I'm none the wiser. No matter anyway I largely stopped using the forums a while ago cos of the amount of asshats
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Haven't read forums that much but even I know who you are talking about. Generally avoided those threads like a plague.
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Thanks for the avatar info :D I remember them. Did they left sg?
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oh you must meant mully, the guy was a troll https://www.steamgifts.com/user/Mully
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I do remember Mully however it seems I dont remember Mully in the same way as you.
Its been years so who knows about the why of things.
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I honestly don't recall the joker avatar, but a few of the other people i would avoid.
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In addition to filtering games, the option to filter developers.
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I think the points of sassdrake are great!!
What I may would like to see is that we could set rules that we now do by SGTools, but would be great if they added it to this site on default, or at least a way to choose stuff like '% won to given away' or whatever so that people that gave the minimum to get a lvl and won a crazy amount don't win even more from people who are bothered by that.
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Bi annual giveaway requirements to enter GA's. At least 1 GA every 6 months.
they can be bundled reduced cv games, just not 0 cv games.
its a low bar to meet and would help reduce the bots and leeches.
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Personally I would make this minimum 1 giveaway every month. It's not much to ask.
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people can still meet those levels and be inactive gifters, level 5+ and last GA was 4+ years ago is things I have seen.
some people may choose the level that gives them sufficient access to giveaways and just stop giving.
SG to me is a give and take kind of place.
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level 5+ and last GA was 4+ years ago
A level decaying system may work.
I remember there's a game that it you don't regularly use your skill, your skill level will drop make the skill less effective.
Or a more complicated formula to calculate real CV, where it gives more weight to recent CV.
For example, a 2 years ago giveaway would only contribute half of its CV, and a 4 years ago one would contribute 1% of its CV.
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Or, another possible implementation: A temporary debuff that gets applied to a user's total given CV, gradually decreasing their level. The debuff would increase the longer a person hasn't contributed. But once they add a new GA, the debuff vanishes again.
So for instance, if someone hasn't added a GA in 6 months, their level CV would be 33% less. After 1,5 years the debuff would be maxed at 99%, setting them to level 1. If they add a new GA and wait until it's finished, the debuff gets reset to 0% and the user would be at their original level again.
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a CV decaying system would only hurt those who have limited means to share, those who take long breaks(glares at self) and such.
would also benefit those who constantly buy the ultra cheap full CV shoverware titles more as they would be able to sustain their CV easier.
main goal would be to keep people as remotely active gifters.
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I have this ADHD-like thing where I am focused on something for a while, then it tones down, and then I completely forget about it for a year or so. Such a rule would make anyone who functions like me ineligible for sg.
And I personally don't see how this infrequent usage of the site is harmful, but I'll gladly hear corrections.
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I would buy me a house from the earnings (generated with giveaways that other ones pay :-D)
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Two words:
SG Dating app.
Users enter giveaways to have dinner with me.
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Instead of pictures people would be judging you based on your giveaways?
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I would eat a banana. Because I'm hungry rn. Also bananas are valuable source of potassium.
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True and dates are even a better source of potassium.
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It is often said that "poverty dulls the spirit.
CG is probably busy making money at Spaceship to pay for the site's operation.
https://www.steamgifts.com/account/settings/patreon
For CG partners, "the blacklist limit will be extended to 10,000."😈
The daily reporting limit on support tickets will also be increased to 50.
Perhaps there will be a certain demand.
When winners cheat....
Even if you continue to subscribe to blacklist instead of going through the trouble of reporting it in a support ticket, 1000 is the maximum.
(I feel that both reporting cheating and registering on the blacklist are necessary, but in reality, not everyone does it.)
Support tickets are limited to 20 reports per day.
At Lv0, there are so many cheaters that it is sometimes derided as feeding the BOT.
(I always report cheaters, and I have that much participation, but it's generally not a good situation.)
🤔Don't you think a more wealthy CG would increase the chances of implementation, including the ideas discussed on this site 4 years ago?
However, I am still poor💸, so "Please implement it now with a support ticket!"or"More and more! Keep up the good work!" or "Zap zap zap!🔫" etc....I have never made such a fuss.ヾﾉ'Θ'o)<It would be ideal if they could operate with a level of effort that does not interfere with reality....
Only in the world of paranoia will the next CG do better than the previous one.
💻<Happiness is Mandatory. Citizen,are you happy?
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Wait. Is that true that patreons have 10k blacklists?
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That's what I hope will happen. That's what I'm talking about.✨
(There should be no such implementation, maybe.)
Also, if had the budget, wouldn't it be possible to fully automate the referrals to SGTools, the defense of status checks before penalizing violators, and the freezing of accounts if the appropriate response is not received by the deadline?
Isn't that something might consider doing a bit of that?
Incidentally, the SGTools servers must be costing a lot of money.
I would hope that if CG were to provide proper support or system integration, inappropriate winners would be significantly eradicated and the amount of trouble volunteers have to go through in support ticket hell would be reduced.
But I would not be willing to do CG's role.ヾﾉ'Θ'o)🐟😹
I remember when I was exhausted from too much "flag-waving" on certain matters in the past, and it took me a couple of years to take over in a state of disarray....
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Don't you think a more wealthy CG would increase the chances of implementation, including the ideas discussed on this site 4 years ago?
No, i don't think so because he earn since years with the site and you seen by yourself that he, nearly, only invest time to do something when his earnings get lower/aren't high enough. It's, very visible, the only thing he care for. His earnings are higher as the expenses, so "he get paid to do something" and nothing happened since years.
All mods should stop to do something and, tell cg "we don't work alone, give us the needed tools, power, rules and do XYZ server sided (as example autojoiner checks)".
Only if he then follow their demands they should work again.
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First of all, I don't know all human backgrounds, so there are opinions like that. That's about it.
As for SGTools, there seems to be an agreement with CG, but it seems to be a bad idea in terms of the Terms of Service to create tools for SG without posting them in the "Add-ons / Tools" category.
Also, if those creators do not abide by the terms of use, it would be treated like a DDoS attack on Steamgifts without their knowledge, which is the end of the story.
I am a little concerned about the recent partnership with FAMDOM, but at the same time, I am hoping that they are gaining technology to control and deal with these issues.
[OFF-TOPIC]
I have seen some rogue tools on external sites that are not listed on SG.
Most of what I see seems to be malware.
For example, it is common for something to appear to be working as intended, but then turn into something more malicious when updated.
When I see such a generation, I continue to provide information in my support tickets.
There is nothing I can say here about what is happening.
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As for SGTools, there seems to be an agreement with CG
The """agreement""" is that knsys (the owner of sgtools) pay his server costs etc. and help with it sg for free and cg earns, in the end, money with that work.
All the catched rulebreakers on sgtools, so the ones that enter protected GAs without to fullfill the requirements and/or share the links of entered protected GAs (mostly with other accounts of that user or "friends") don't get punished on sg.
Which means that they can share endless the links because knsys can suspend them only from the function that they could enter throught the checks of a sgtools protected GA.
And that mean that the on sgtools "perma banned" (40-50) accounts still have no problems because cg supports their cheating with doing nothing and don't care.
And, of course, sgtools is not official recommended to check each winner (or something like this).
So knsys should give cg the middle finger and move on.
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Well, anyone would question the amount of inconspicuousness in security issues.
(I am aware that there are many things that are not explained for security reasons that are not discussed in the discussion.)
Hmmm...
I don't know what knsys thinks of CG's position, but SGTools has definitely done a lot for the community. That much is for sure.
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I don't want to answer for knsys about what he thinks (if i know something or not) but that knsys don't work anymore on sgtools for updates/new stuff and only maintain it say a lot.
And yes, sgtools done a lot for sg and i am very thankful for it and appreciated knsys time and money that he invested.
But lately i would prefer when sgtools would stop to support sg, to force cg to change something because from alone he will not invest time into it. The last 5 years should teached us this lesson.
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SGTools has definitely done a lot for the community
I would not create any more giveaways if SGTools would not exist. I am tired of catching rule breakers everywhere, members with several not activated wins who are still not perma suspended but go straight to my blacklist.
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If they get a perma suspension they can come back after 1 year.
Which a good bunch done from the ones that got perma suspended [for unactivated wins, autojoining and multiaccounting] because of the hunting members of my group.
And yes, this is EXTREMELY frustrating -and one of the main reasons why i stopped to hunt black sheeps and let cg handle his shit alone (which mean nothing will be done at all :-D)-.
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If they get a perma suspension they can come back after 1 year.
What?
Is there a thread with more info about that? Sometimes I clean my blacklist to remove perma suspended members, I thought "permanent" means "permanent".
Permanent = everlasting = eternal.
Am I missing something?
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Is there a thread with more info about that?
No, because each name/link would be handled as calling out and, as so often, the good guys would be punished to protect the black sheeps.
And i don't assume that the high mods want to share the info that permanent suspended mean on sg 1 year.
Let's say i were pissed when i found that out by seeing 2 "perma suspended" ones from my BL (that i kicked from it) appeared again (the multiaccounter done as first thing autojoining as "thanks for beeing allowed again as member" [with his old account not a new one!]).
A few members of my group and i had than a closer look on it and spotted more of that "perma suspended" ressurected members.
To hunt them down, they need to be catched multiple times with breaking the same rules for a perma suspension, took in many cases longer as 1 year, so the effort and invested time from the helpers were bigger as the punishment for the black sheeps.
I can't give names or links here on sg because of the calling out rule but if you want add me on steam or discord (Masafor), feel free to do so.
What i write or copy&paste there can't be censored from a sg mod.
But be aware that i have from tomorrow for 1 week not much time because i get a visitor, so don't wonder if it takes time till i react.
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I can't give names or links here on sg because of the calling out rule but if you want add me on steam or discord (Masafor), feel free to do so.
I don't need names, I trust you, thanks for the information. In this case we should be allowed to have a bigger or unlimited blacklist.
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When I first joined SG, I somehow had the wrong idea that those 400 entry points required to enter giveaways only regenerated when you made a giveaway yourself 😅 So I made a giveaway and it didn't go back up. After coming back an hour later, did I notice it went up. Maybe we could cap out the max entry points per week to 1000.
I wonder how complicated it would be to make it so you only had maybe 1000 points to enter in total per week. And when you make a giveaway, you can reset that 1000 point limit. Maybe there would even be personal stats we could share of how many entry points on average we spend per week <3.
Oof, a week is different too depending on your time zone, so maybe that would be a flop.
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Start a steam key store on the site (official keys from a distributor) and give increasing discounts based on Steamgifts level. ;)
edit: the part about discounts was a joke if the winking smiley face did not make it obvious
But discounts for games which can only be used in SG giveaways would be cool
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problem there would be the people with fake cv/giveaways abusing the discounts.
I have found someone who gave away ~$600 DLC for <redacted game name here but its probably obvious> x 2 copies to a invite only no lvl requirement with exactly 5 entries... oh and the 2 winners have the same account creation dates(actually within the same hour as creator)
being DLC for a F2P game fake accounts for both steam and SG can be used to get level 7+ like its nothing.
anyone who checks their winners should never send keys to them at least. Only thing I can do is report them and wait.
wouldn't surprise me if there is more of them out there that I haven't spotted.
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you wouldn't believe your eyes, how much are out there, SG gives a warm welcome to all cheaters and abusers
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Oh I know, I know eventually my blacklist won't be able to hold more to.
hell I might have to remove some of the lesser ones on it to deal with cheats.
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Steam level is often related to how much disposable income a user has - why reward those people who HAVE the money to easily buy games, and spit on the face of people who actually don't have much?
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hey cg, look at this!
not much about increased discounts for higher levels, but official keys from distributors would be awesome.
all keys bought from SG Store would stay at SG and only shared via giveaways.
like, you buy a key (keys are hidden until win and only showed to the winner = you can't use SG Store keys elsewhere) and directly create a giveaway.
also, CV should be taken into account by SG Store, as it's our only "currency"... and so on.
the noice idea, man. do give us more while you're working :P
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if the winking smiley face did not make it obvious
🖤
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This is an amazing idea, Opium Pulses is quite smaller and did what you're saying, and this site is miles ahead when It comes to loading speeds.
Please accept other methods instead of only credit card. The IRS is after me ;)
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1) Make Sausage rolls the official food of SG (did anyone expect anything different from me)
2) Some sort of Captcha, that only targets those under a specific level, I don't know but I am assuming there are not that many level 3 bots?
Having said that I am kind of happy there are no genre filters as I just noticed Wallace and Gromit is tagged with "Hentai" on steam
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there are bots, autojoiners and leechers on every level, but less on the higher ones, that's why i set most of my GAs to 5+, blacklist is limited and there are not enough slots by far to blacklist every black sheep, even if you blacklist only level 5+ ones, think about that
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I know guy using autojoin script with his two accounts, one level 7, other 6. Cheaters will always find a way.
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Cheaters will always find a way.
Not necessarily, when they're kept in check with a system that's not a waste of time and a complete joke. But on SG they're invited to exploit and cheat to their hearts content with no or very minimal consequences. Should happen the worst and miscreants are suspended "permanently" well, they can come back after one year.
I admire some of the volunteers who bear with these conditions and the inactivity of higher ranking mods and cg hinself. I'd have cited the literary figure of Goethe's Goetz von Berlichingen a long time ago if I'd be in their situation.
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1) remove giveaway that is <$10.
2) Set a winner cooldown period like 2 weeks so that someone else can win something and not the same person
3) ban all the people gifting fake games. These people using fake high points games to farm points.
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There is a ton of 5P games that are good. Mainly older games but even new ones like Wadjet Eye one.
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I feel that people are abusing the systems by gifting 100+ 5P games that worth actually 10 cent each.
Its just like fake games with high points but many fake low value games like those hentai games.
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you get full cv only for first 9 or 10 copies of undbundled games. Bundled 5p games will get you what, 10 percent of their value, so you will not get substantial level increase through that anyway.
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ahh I see that majority of the games you gifting are games that are <$10
No wonder you are arguing against this rule.
You are the type of guy I mean using 100+ <$10 to get level 10
I rest my case.
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The base of this site has always been giving away bundle leftovers. it would be weird to suddenly limit people to giving away only relatively expensive leftovers.
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There are plenty of bundle leftovers that are >$10.
People are exploiting the site by gifting cheap bundle leftovers <$10 games and winning games that are >$10.
Take a look at eldar4k profile and you see a fine example.
Almost all of his wins are >$10 games and yet a lot of his giveaway are <$10.
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I think you misunderstand the concept of leftovers. The point is to give everything you don't need to people who need it, not to choose the most valuable stuff to raise your CV and leave everything else to rot. And yes, there might be people who abuse cheap bundles. So what? Should we punish the honest majority because of those few?
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Dude, this is not about leftovers.
Its about gifting low value games to boast their profile ratio. I am 100% sure people are abusing the ratio system to get into groups to win giveaway and the honest majority are actually gifting bundle leftover that is >$10 in value.
If you remove the <$10 games, I assure you a lot of level 10 profile will be in negative giveaway ratio.
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Lol, you didnt have a case to begin with, just some weird accusation. If you so concerned about levels maybe you should create GAs more often and increase it.
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It is not an accusation but a fact. Your profile is a good example
You make use of massive number low value giveaway to get a big positive in ratio value..
Then you join groups that required positive giveaway ratio to win giveaway of higher value easily.
I am sure if we remove all the low value giveaway from your profile, Your actual giveaway ratio will become negative.
Sure I can do it too if I want but it will be unfair to others.
This is why the remove of <$10 giveaway should be implemented to prevent guys like you abusing the system.
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You won 1000 bucks worth of games in a site and gave away 700. Why you not striving to make your ratio positive? Is it fair to others that you got more that gave away? I got invited to groups that value based with regular giveaways rule, you can too, but you need to actually participate. Most of my lower value gas are no value games for open for all groups like Delete a key or Lootboy of for my whitelist and they contribute nothing to my ratio.
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what I win are bundle games, what I giveaway are bundle games.
Sure I can giveaway unbundle games that are <$10 to boast my ratio to abuse the system easily.
This guy is another fine example
This is why we need to remove games <$10
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Man, I hate to break it to you, but no matter what game someone giveaways away, there's always someone who would be happy to win it, regardless of its value.
Don't get me wrong - I'm all for trashing the $50 asset flips and DIG-quality games, but there are plenty of decent enough games under 10 bucks. Vampire Survivors, for instance, is a $5 game with over 5 million purchases on Steam alone.
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There are plenty of <$10 games that are like the $50 asset flips and DIG-quality games too.
A lot of them are unbundled and count as full retail price in this site.
instead of one $50 fake game, there is always 10 different $5 fake game. Its the same thing.
Its easier to catch one $50 fake game than to look for ten $5 fake game.
This guy is another fine example
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4) Ban all the people who create region restricted giveaways even when the package of the game has no region restrictions at all, while they join and win region free giveaways.
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Ahh spotted another system abuser.
Region restricted giveaway has nothing wrong, to ensure the game can be activated successfully so I set it to my region as I do not know whether my game will be able to activate elsewhere so why take the risk. There is no abuse or unfairness since everyone from my region can enter.
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Ahh spotted another system abuser.
Do you mean you spotted yourself? xD
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hahaa its pretty obvious that you try to misdirect your system abuse to other things to try to change subject.
You giveaway 90% of games worth <$10 yet win 90% of games >$10.shows that clearly on how you abuse it.
100% sure if remove your giveaways with games that are <$10, you will have a really bad ratio.
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You have given half of what I have given, you have a negative ratio, you create region restricted giveaways when your keys are region free, like a xenophobe. Meanwhile, you join and win giveaways without region restrictions and win a lot more (in real value) than you give. You are objectively a leech and a system abuser.
I am an active member of this community and you only come here to complain. Now shut up and stop being ridiculous.
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wow you are so good and nice and kind. You are the best.
Active member by giving away for many low value games.
Sorry since you can giveaway game in groups and whitelist. I will be able to giveaway games that are region restricted
If you stop doing giveaway in groups and whitelist, I will stop giving games with Region restriction.
its not like you are not entering public giveaway too.
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Lol jokes on you since you are only doing whitelist and group giveaway anyway.
I cannot enter them even without the blacklist.
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Active member by giving away for many low value games.
Active member for being active on the forums, maintaning threads for years (like the Denuvo one) and creating content like puzzles. Contributing, not complaining.
Sorry since you can giveaway game in groups and whitelist.
Those are public and unrestricted groups.
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Ok Whitelist are unrestricted and public. Got it.
I am glad we talked.
I will only create whitelist giveaway from now on.
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i love those 5P games like doom, commandos, all old classics .
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Region restricted giveaway has nothing wrong, to ensure the game can be activated successfully
and that's why you enter worldwide GAs?
as I do not know whether my game will be able to activate elsewhere
that's a lame excuse, bc there is a thread where the RR of bundled games are listed
There is no abuse or unfairness since everyone from my region can enter.
right, it's only unfair, that you give exlusively to your region and join worldwide GAs
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So much this.
Creatures like this are the perfect example why CV gained through region restrictioned giveaways should only count to enter giveaways for that region.
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To tell you the truth, CV is actually useless due to the abuse I am talking about.
You are see almost everyone is at least level 5.
Furthermore I once did a giveaway and almost got reported as the game cannot be activated.
I am not going to risk it again.
All the games I giveaway are bundle games so there is no way to check whether the game is region locked or not.
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You are see almost everyone is at least level 5.
I am not sure how you come on/to the "almost everyone is at least level 5". The user stats show a very different reality.
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look at the graph, those level 0 are mostly bots, alt or fake accounts.
actual active member will span from level 2 - 10
I hardly giveaway anything and I am level 6.
those that giveaway 500+ low value games will be much much higher.
Who is winning those low value games? bots, alt or fake accounts?
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i also won a good amount of games worth less than 10 points
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there is no way to check whether the game is region locked or not
And if you create giveaways from Humble Bundle they provide that info too. But of course you already know it, all your messages are a collection of bad excuses.
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lol you sure are smart.
I can put in activation key at steamdb to check region lock.
First time I heard it.
Tell me where you put in the activation keys? Please show exactly where in the site please.
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He just said that you can check the games region locks on steamdb. Not keys, but games.
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Yea I giveaway keys at steam gift for games so tell me how to check whether the keys are region locked.
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It really depend on a source of the key. Sometimes you have to rely on a description from seller, sometimes you can dig for the info here on SG (Humble, for example, is always covered very well regarding the reg locks).
Soon I will reach 300 GAs created and so far I have faced situations with wrongly indicated region locks only three times. So it is doable to learn about the reg locks prior creating giveaways.
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SteamDB is the most reliable source. To check for region locks:
- Search for the game (example)
- Go to Packages on the left column
- Look for "buy restrict" on each subID line (check screenshot)
- Click over those subIDs and look for "This package can only be activated in specified countries" information.
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i already state my reasons and its valid.
No one will want to see a win and find out the game cannot be activated.
You guy are just salty you cannot enter the giveaway.
Why not complain about those that only do whitelist and group giveaway for limited people.
these are the people that only gift to selected people that can be abused. They enter public giveaway too.
How about those who giveaway 90% of games worth <$10 yet win 90% of games >$10.
These people seems to have higher win rate than others due to their high giveaway count.
You think this is fair?
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i already state my reasons and its valid.
you stated your excuses, which aren't valid, because there is a thread with RR for bundled games, as i already stated earlier
You guy are just salty you cannot enter the giveaway.
oh no, Sherlock exposed us Kappa
I stopped counting, how many times i was accused of improving my chances to win or some other stupid argument like yours
Why not complain about those that only do whitelist and group giveaway for limited people.
I blacklist each one equally, the site is full abusers and other shady people like autojoiners
How about those who giveaway 90% of games worth <$10 yet win 90% of games >$10.
At least they give worldwide games
You think this is fair?
Yes i think it's more fair, if you give worldwide games, instead of giving exclusively to a small number of people, but still win worldwide games
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Sure I will do worldwide giveaway, however if the guy cannot activate the game, I will ask them to look for you since you think my reasons are not valid. Any report they make I will refer to your good suggestion.
Give me the link to the thread with RR Bundle game but if they cannot activate it. You have to pay the actual price for the game they won, I should not get reported.
Hope you win more games that are <$10.
I am glad you target me cause thisguy actually do shady whitelist and group giveaway but you seems to give him free pass.
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Sure I will do worldwide giveaway, however if the guy cannot activate the game, I will ask them to look for you since you think my reasons are not valid.
take me out of your equation, your guy should ask sensualshakti, why her mentioned region restrictions are incorrect
There is no way to check whether the key is region locked
You'd better ask sensualshakti about how she checks region restrictions
I did the work for you and looked for her threads, they are in the deals section https://www.steamgifts.com/discussions/deals
here is one example, where you see region restrictions crystal clear https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/eAhbE/humble-bundle-at-home-arcade
After checking some threads of Fanatical bundles i think all of their keys are worldwide
Edit: After looking a bit more into the topic, Humble Bundle seems the one giving away region restricted keys and if you had bought the actual bundle, you would have problems with your actual region restrictions, if you had a winner from Indonesia.
Cyberpunk bundle was even excluding Singapore
I am glad you target me cause thisguy actually do shady whitelist and group giveaway
i already checked him, he also does GAs for public groups like DGIKINW, so he's not one of those guys who give only to a small group of people
Hope you win more games that are <$10.
Why? Does it make me a bot, alt or fake account more?
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Skew odds for every GA in my favour, hehehehehe. On a serious note probably some bot and autojoiners control (no idea how though) and maybe less points per user with 50P shovelware ban.
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Ban all ruskies. They use shady sites from Russia to buy cheap from sellers who use stolen cards, and they pump up their CV. Very old problem, that's been barely addressed. In my observations, ruskies also use autojoiners. Several years ago I found multiple russian accounts that had like over 100+ wins with zero activations. They were banned only after I asked moderators about them. However they used sg for years. Now, I'm not checking any users anymore.
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People who buy these shovelwares to giveaway aren't only russians, same with autojoin script. Cg would have to shutdown site to get rid of them all. Maybe it would be for the best, less time spent by browsing giveaways, more time to play games people collected there.
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Absolutely! The main problem of this site is that it's not nationalist enough!
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I'm just curious: how would you call actions of people attacking Victor Shenderovich or Dmitry Muratov who've dedicated their lives to fighting Putin's regime, but are somehow still guilty because, well, they are Russian? And please, you don't need to explain anything about this regime and its crimes to me, I live here, I know, it's impossible to desensitize to Ukrainian children dying because of my country (and it's not exactly fun living here as well: inside Russia, they incarcerate people for words pretty much every day, torture them, destroy art and nature, pass terrible laws like completely forbidding gender transition, every days it's something new and amazing: for example, right now they are discussing limiting access to morning after pills because the earlier a girl gets pregnant, the better). Believe me, I know. But I'm tired of being guilty despite never voting for this government and despite a decade of participating in pretty much every form of peaceful protest possible. I'm just so, so tired of being guilty because of having been born in the wrong country (I'm not even ethnically Russian, I'm a mixture of Jewish, Polish and Belarusian blood, but I do feel so Russian these days). I don't know what else I can do, but I'll remain hated because I've been born here and can't immigrate. And I know I have no right to feel sorry for myself. But please try to understand that we here are human beings as well, and we do have feeling as well.
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However much I wish for the war to be over, when you win (and I believe you'll win), it'll be even worse for us. We won't just have metaphysical demons to fight, we'll be locked in a full-scale totalitarian state. But nobody really cares. People like me are monsters for people like you and enemies for our own state. I should just have killed myself last March, don't know why I've chosen to live (I mean, I know why, I found out that my sister was pregnant, and this somehow created an illusion that there was some hope). But yeah, it would be easier for doubting foreigners and for our government alike if people like me just stopped to exist.
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thank you both, guys. an awesome exchange that enriches us all.
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One one hand, you cheering me up looks a bit weird considering the situation. On the other, saying no to a cheer-up gift would be downright rude, so yes, I'm willing :)
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Please don't lose hope. You're not responsible for the russian government and military's crimes in Ukraine just because you happen to be Russian. That line of thinking is exactly what Putin is doing against Ukrainians and if we perpetuate that kind of condemnation against an entire population for the crimes of a few of its members we're no better than him. It's the same kind of shit that happened after WW2 and I could still see when I was young, among older people who believed all Germans were nazis just because they were German. In the end Russians are still people. Not everyone has the courage to take a stand against an oppressive government, I can't blame people for doing nothing and just wanting to go on with their lives.
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