I just won a giveaway for a game and redeemed game on Steam and went to thank the creator of the giveaway but couldn't because I was blacklisted! I can't even see who the creator was to ask why? I have been on the site a long time and this is the first time this has happened to me. Anyone else have this happen to them? I redeemed the game as soon as I got up in the morning, less then 6 hours after game ended.

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Have you ever been blacklisted from the creator of the giveaway you just won?

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I have never won a giveaway

People do it so they get different winners to their giveaways. I would not lose sleep over it.

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Oh, I guess that makes sense. Usually like to say thanks after a win though.

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Blacklist is personal thing.
You may not done anything wrong to you and still got blacklisted.

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+1

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Only happened to me once. I won a giveaway and creator immediately blacklisted me for no reason. He even blocked me on steam and also didn't send the key. I was so shocked...

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probably he never had the key lol

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yeah that's what I thought

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https://www.steamgifts.com/user/juryman00/giveaways/won
Here you should see the creators of giveaways

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Thanks!

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I once entered a giveway for a bunlde after asking, if it's ok to enter even though I owned some part. He said sure but then blacklisted me for actually winning

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He said it is ok to enter, not to win...

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I have blacklisted several people for thanking me for a giveaway or even a won game. And now you get blacklisted more because you made this thread. It really is random like that.

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I'm confused. Why would you blacklist people for thanking you? I'm new, and this comment (if I'm understanding it correctly) makes me want to not thank anybody for fear I'll get blacklisted myself.

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Because it's useless spam and when you make for example a 1900 game train it literally becomes impossible to notice if someone actually had something to say in between the spam. Also it was clearly specified in the descriptions that it will happen but still people did it. Far more others will BL you for not saying thanks if you won so I'd err on the side of that caution. But below is how it should work without extra spam until we get just a thanks button.

Thanks for giveaway --> enter button
Thanks for won game --> mark received

Marking it received ASAP is the best way to thank the creator of the giveaway.

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Sounds like no matter what I do I lose. lol. Well, thanks for the fast response. If I win anything from you I'll remember not to thank you. ;)

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That's how blacklisting works. If you do something or don't do anything you get blacklisted.

I don't think you have to worry about me for a long while. Also it's completely different if there are 10 winners saying "Thanks for this nice game I wanted" or 1000 spamming your messages page with copypasted generic "thanks" for 40 pages and you won't even bother reading through the useless spam so everyone with a bad key or other actual reasons to message are lost in middle. Even 10 "thanks" in a row from the same user winning multiple games instead of 1 "thanks for the 10 games". So it's nothing but incredibly rude and harmful to other people as well.

It should be quite obvious that people entering are thankful for the giveaway or they wouldn't enter and the winners are thankful that they won the game when they mark it received. Why should we require anything else just to inflate the giver's ego or something?

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This was your 2nd whitelist win from this particular giveaway creator, so they may just be trying to ensure diversity with their future winners.

Or maybe you didn't thank them for the first game.

Or maybe they woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

Blacklists are not always logical so it's not always possible to figure them out!

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Well, if a person chooses to be rude and wouldn't allow you to thank them (it's hard for me not to read this behaviour as something on the lines of "You've won a game from me? Good, now you can go fuck yourself"), that's totally their prerogative, as unpleasant as it is. At least this way the said person is also barred from entering your GAs, and you wouldn't want a rude person to win your GAs, would you?

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If you've been blacklisted, say, before the giveaway ended, can you still redeem a game you've won?

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I assume so, but don't really know; it would probably be better to ask a support member.

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As far as I know, you can still grab keys you've won from https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaways/won - even if you can't see the original giveaway any longer.

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I believe if they blacklist you before the giveaway ends you are removed from the entries for said giveaway.

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No, you're still entered and eligible to win.

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Like Tzaar said, that's not how it works.
Otherwise you would be able to just blacklist everyone out of the entries until only a handful of people are left, lol

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I don't have an opinion about it but the legend says that it is not good to talk about "that list".

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Maybe not blacklisted but removed from whitelist? Because it was a whitelist GA.

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Exactly! hehe

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It does say it differently when trying to enter. "You are not whitelisted" vs "You are blacklisted"

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I know that :) But the creator of this post did not say directly that it said blacklisted. Maybe he just saw that he cannot click on the GA anymore and assumed that it is a blacklist. That would be possible ^^

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I have been on the site a long time

So you assume that someone who's been here for 7 years and done 2k+ giveaways wouldn't know the difference?

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Sure, if this is the first time this happens to him, as he writes. And he thinks he can't see the creator of the GA either. That is possible. But we will probably never know if he does not answer :)

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An illogical example.

I sometimes mistake the whitelist and blacklist buttons.
So don't ponder it.
Probably due to the mystery of the universe.(ノΘ`)✨

I'm sorry if it's a real mistake.
I may also add "people who have won too many" so sorry...・゚・(PΘq。)・゚・

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Just make a new thread titled, "Whoever just gave me Mine the Gold and then blacklisted me, thank you!" ;)

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I did that once and it was was not interpreted the way I meant it. I know this because the guy who blacklisted me eventually changed his mind and now I can see a conversation he had about me in the comments of the GA I won. It’s a little awkward, kind of like when people talk about you in a language they think you don’t know.

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Well, I phrased that purposefully to be ripe for misinterpretation. ;)

But your case sounds like it became a little awkward. Did you find out why you were blacklisted, at least?

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Never did. I had won a few of their GAs recently so I assume it was as others have suggested on this thread, to give others a chance.

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Hey,

It would be best to remove name of the game you won from the OP post. There is no reason to focus attention on particular creator, as users are able to blacklist (and whitelist) for any reason they want. So you will not find the answer to "why" by writing a forum thread.

I can't even see who the creator was to ask why?

Just go to this page, it will show you names of creators of GAs you marked as received / not received.

https://www.steamgifts.com/user/juryman00/giveaways/won

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umm, ok. Not sure why the necessity for that last comment.
There are so many reasons for blacklisting but in this case it was just removing someone from their whitelist
Life's too short to hold grudges or go around calling people names.

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my experience is once time i won the game but the creator never give the game and i blocked and send ticket to sg but nobody respond jajaj

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Did you double check to see if it says "you are not on the user's whitelist" or "you have been blacklisted by this user." It would make more sense that they simply kicked you off their whitelist. ;)

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They may BL you for the most trivial of reasons, ranging anywhere from ratio, to full value vs bundled, to library size, to (perceived) incomplete or unplayed games.
I've stopped trying to make sense of it. But I feel better knowing that the BL was made 2 way, so create more giveaways - they won't be able to enter yours :)

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Don`t worry ,you can just move along... Welcome to my 💙 list with this occasion.😁

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Welcome to mine as well!

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I can't even see who the creator was to ask why?

I will say that while I don't mind blacklists existing, I do kinda wish there was more transparency about it...

For instance, it would be really nice if when the site was determining if you can view a GA or not, it would evaluate the condition of "this user won this particular GA" as "allowed to view" and higher priority than the rules of "user is blacklisted by GA creator" / "user is not part of group (anymore)" so that one could still view all of their past wins...

I get that some people like to be anonymous little shits and BL everyone so they would probably be opposed to transparency. But have always thought it was kinda stupid and promoted a lot of hidden ill will in the community. I would just rather have it be upfront. Someone BL'd you? Let them field questions about why (or disregard/ignore the questions), just as you'd have to do in IRL if you started excommunicating friends/family/etc with no notice. It sets the tone for people to act more responsibly and more tolerably toward one another and less like immature little shits doing petty things because they can "get away with it" without anybody questioning them / knowing they did it. And as long as functionality remains intact, there's nothing stopping someone from continuing to BL if they really want to but it might get people to actually talk to each first instead of just being petty.

If CG were to hypothetically put it up to a vote to whether or not to make "who has you on their BL / who's on your BL" publicly visible to all, I would vote YES bc I think it promotes a better community when everything relating to more than one user is out in the open (and even though a BL is controlled by one user, it does affect other users so it does relate to them).

Edit: looks like this thread was locked at some point after I was last on SG... Maya, you are absolutely correct that someone BL you doesn't automatically make them immature. I should have clarified that my comment above wasn't intended to imply that any and all who decide to BL someone are 'immature little shits'. I was more trying to say that having anon blacklists encourages certain people to act like 'immature little shits' where those same people might not be as quick to BL over minor things if we had publicly visible BL's. The certain people I refer to are ones that BL for petty reasons (such as people BL someone who creates a post about BLs "just because") or people who start arguments then BL anyone who disagrees with them, even if those people are still polite and respectful. While there is perhaps some degree of communication, it's hard to say "hey, dude why did you BL me?" when you don't know whodunnit and while this type of convo wouldn't always change the outcome, there are surely some cases where it would start a convo that leads to walking back the BL. Either way, there are legit uses for BLs and simply using the feature does not make one a little shit. In the OP's scenario, I think that is a perfectly valid way to use BLs (gifter wants to spread out wins not have same people win multiple GAs) although I would encourage people who do this to be open about it and add a warning to their GAs if they don't already. As for me needed to get out more, I do but probably wouldn't hurt to do it more :-) at the same time, my intent was less of an "i hate the internet wah" rant and more of a "there is a case to be made for public BLs on SG". Sorry if it came off as one instead of the other... I can be a grumpy old man IRL sometimes too haha.

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Let them field questions about why... immature little shits.

Just cos someone blacklisted you doesn't mean they hate you, and doesn't automatically mean they need to grow up: this is a giveaway site, and more often than not (in my case), the reason I blacklist someone is usually solely due to a highly imbalanced ratio (read Karp's comment below). Blacklisting doesn't stop communication between people - they can still reply to comments they make, or hijack their thread "complaining" about why they were blacklisted by them. Just because you might have had a bad experience or can't enter someone's giveaway shouldn't be a reason for people to have divulge information about why you were blacklist/removed from group/un-whitelisted. Yes, I'm sure that there are people who do blacklist people for completely illogical or plainly a twitch response to a comment someone made - I was once blacklisted by about 50 people in one day for comments I made - but at the end of the day, this isn't real life, and if you're so concerned about this, maybe you need to get out more ;)
I'd love to know where the other 150+ blacklists came from though, have I really been that much of an immature little shit?

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Doesn't seem to be the case with you, but what I sometimes do is blacklist winners after they sent their comment and have marked the game as received IF they have a terrible share ratio. Basically if their won value is way higher than their given value.
I do that because I prefer rewarding those who give more than they take, rather than support "leeching" tendencies.

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I've added you to my 💙 for counterbalance :)

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I remember one guy doing giveaway for AAA game(W3? Or something like this) and he said winner will be blacklisted

It was a gamble-win aaa game and never have chance to win maybe better games from this guy or pass and go for his another giveaway in future for better aaa game. Or maybe there will be no more giveaways from him? You know

Ppl segregate other ppl too much these days so it doesnt surprise me

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People take blacklists quite personally, but we often forget that they're just a means of moderating who can and cannot enter our giveaways. As others have pointed out, it seems most likely that they use the blacklist in this way to prevent someone from entering another giveaway of theirs after having won one. So long as you're generally chill, don't stress about an occasional blacklist as if it might haunt you and mark you out as a bad person or anything. It's less of a reputation system, and more of a random stat change tracking.

Think of it this way : People used to take offense if you didn't automatically accept their random friend requests on any platform and demand a reason as if you insulted their bloodline. People still treat upvotes / downvotes / etc like they're rating your soul, and even people here wield "thanks for the blacklist" like it's some kind of murderous callout fatality. I mean yeah, sometimes a blacklist or whitelist can be personal (typically for very opposed values in heated threads), but in the end it's still just to moderate their own giveaways and it's not like it stains you with a black mark others can get creeped out by. Plus blacklisting is mutual, meaning anybody who blacklists you cannot enter your giveaways either.

It might help to remember that there are occasional threads where people will just whitelist or blacklist on request for little to no reason. Try not to read too far into it! You're just feeling the whiplash because you noticed where that specific one came from, and it made you flinch. Even the most respectful and soft spoken person will pick up blacklists, and even people with actual reputations for being garbage tier trolls or making big obnoxious tantrum displays will also get occasional whitelists. There's no real standard so don't worry. :)

Hell, feeling salty or getting confused over a blacklisting isn't unusual either. You might have noticed we get a thread about blacklists every now and then that follows this kind of pattern. Don't worry, you're good, haha.

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I did it once. I really didn't like what I could see of the winner on Steam (still gave him the game though).
So, it could be the same for you...

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