Hi. Few hours ago i received email about taking survey From Humble Bundle. That survey contain just one question about Humble Choice, so they maybe want to make a change. What would you answer?

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If a given Choice month cointained $240 worth of games, what number of games would you prefer to receive.

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5-6 games total, ranging from $10-$60 each ($240 value)
7-8 games total, ranging from $10-$60 each ($240 value)
9-10 games total, ranging from $10-$60 each ($240 value)
11-12 games total, ranging from $10-$60 each ($240 value)

Well, this kind of survey has only one purpose: know how to better milk their customers. Not answering at all is the best way to go in my opinion.
By the way, their wording show that they are only caring about numbers and profitability. Not a single word about quality of games / critics / users feedbacks. Curated, they say, what a joke... Yes, I hate them for what they became

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sure, if they make the bundle more the way we want them, should end in a win-win-situation.

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They don't care about what customer really wants, since a number of games means nothing, the important point is which games.
They want to know what makes customer buy. This is totally different: it's not about making the customer happy (after sale, long term), it's about making him click the Buy button (profit, short term).

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as long as they dont start with stupid mystery, the customer will most likely buy if he likes what he get... so if they sell more, more People like it (and this might be Not Bad)

also: you seem to Not care about the compony as well. so what are you complaining about?

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I care, just not in the positive way. I'm very angry against their illegal TOS.

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Maybe you interpret stuff in, that aren't there.

Of course they want to know when a customers buy and of course say the question nothing about the quality, so it is hard to answer for me but i assume that with lesser games, the quality of them raise and i think they want to find out if people want quantity or quality.

Not that they give then the same quality out, if you pick 5 or 12 games :-D
Because when they only need a few games from publishers they can offer more money/visibility in a bundle for the deal and because of that they will get better games in general. And if they need they double ammount of games for a bundle, of course the publishers will pick weaker games.

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Maybe I see evil when there isn't. But what I see from HB since a few years makes me really think they are now a profit-only driven company, who don't care at all for games and gamers. That's my opinion and we can agree to disagree on that :)

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I think, you are seeing things that aren't there. This seems like a standard survey to me, it inquires about how many games the customers are looking for in a bundle. The number is likely the biggest factor that can be quantitatively measures, since quality, reviews and even price is subjective and varies greatly between players. What is high quality for one person might be to totally uninteresting for someone else. Not answering at all means your voice won't be heard.

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The frontier between 'making customers happy' and 'talking the maximum possible money from customers' is thin. By definition, if we don't speak about a monopoly, the customer is always happy since he's not forced to buy. We can have different opitions on that,.. What I mean in the end is that HB chose the "make money by all means" way, as opposite from "make money from loyal customers who are happy to stay with us". Sorry if my english is not good enough to make myself clear !

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How did you arrive at that conclusion based on this survey? The question has nothing to do with long time customers, the quality of games. It's asking one customer how he or she feels about a bundle.

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Higher number seems best for people who want cards, giveaway fodder, or trades, but I think the sweet spot is a lower total with more high quality games, but still room for some nice indie games. 7-8 sounds best to me

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Giveaway fodder ? HB forbids customers to make giveaways and threatens them to close their account if they do. This is one of their stupidest moves, but it's written in their TOS...

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And they don't enforced that rules for years.
Till the abuse, thanks to all the resellers and mega traders, (and hit on their income) got so high that they decided to enforce it.

Oh and i don't see one complete innocent got hit.

All that wrote here on sg with a own thread were, when you checked them closer, resellers, big traders and in the end people with multiple accounts (so it hit the right ones from my point of view) -at least as far as i seen the threads-.

Don't get me wrong, maybe it hit a few innocent ones too that traded one or two games with the wrong person but i don't assume that the percentage of the innocent ones are high.

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I'm not comfortable with rules that are enforced depending on who breaks them or on the mood of the judge. Yes, there were abuses regarding their TOS (which is an illegal one by EU laws), but it doesnt' make it right in my EU citizen opinion that they forbid giving away leftovers on SG. In fact, this point is the core of the bad feelings I have against them.
To be clear: they did not do anything to my account, personally. I asked their support about their TOS and they wrote back to me that giving away my leftovers is forbidden. So I abide by the rules, and tell everyone how scummy they are, instead of keeping being an active customer as I was for years. Their choice, not mine...

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I am from the EU too and eu law or not, if people resell, special the very cheap T1, games it hits a company, if they created 5+ accounts to do that and other shady stuff like getting "new subscriber" price, then it hit a company.
And the normal and absolutely understandable reaction is then to find ways to prevent such stuff that hit their market and lower their sold units.
Not only because of HB, because of the publishers too that don't like devastating prices, of their games, from sites as g2a and similiar ones. So i am, very, sure that the publishers made pressure too that HB fix that problem or they would not receive more games from that publisher(s).
Maybe should the people that talk about "the quality in the HB bundles drop", think about such reasons too, besides the "i give 100% to charity" behavior -that of course can't function when a company need money to pay for the titles, the work, the taxes and so on-.

I still give my leftovers away and i never had problems.

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I opted for 5-6, but again, it's mostly because i think lower games = better quality. I can't keep on playing 11-12 new games every month anyway if i somehow got interested in them. But again, i usually like games that other people don't like, so having this amount lower my chance of getting the ones i will be really interested in.

Still, this also speak nothing since you won't know the quality of the games between all options.

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Yeah, I agree with everything you stated.

I hate months that seem to be lightly themed - where most of them are, say, roguelikes. I'm often like "ok this month is a skip." They never say it's themed but I wish they'd make more of an effort to maybe add in games from different genres instead of dumping a lot of games from the same or similar genres in the same month. If they tried to follow the rule of thumb of
sticking to at least one RPG, one simulator, one roguelike, one FPS, etc. every month while also focusing on quality then I'd have more variety and a higher chance of finding something I was really interested in that month.

I'm probably in the minority because I'm a bulk subscriber, I pay for a 6 month sub at a time rather than month-to-month and I realize most people are not going to sub to one month for one or maybe even two games if it tickles their fancy, so maybe that is why they do genre dumps.

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You have great points, but i'd say it's better to take the risk of fewer games for better quality

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more games = a greater likelihood at least one of them might be up your alley. this month 9 of 12 games are on my ignore list. Many months I skip because they are just not for me. If they had fewer games in the bundle, the cost per game might be higher or better quality, but a high quality game in a genre I cannot stand goes on the ignore list the same as an asset flip in that same genre. With more games, they can cover more genres.

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I agree that price is not what matters here, there are many 60€ "AAA" games that I wouldn't want to touch with a ten feet pole and many 10-15€ games that I spent hundreds of hours playing. However, it's just a matter of tastes and I think that as a rule, more expensive games tend to be generally liked by a wider audience which makes them seem as higher quality, and it's true as well that for every cheap masterpiece there are a hundred cheap trash games I don't like either. For me, there's no correct answer to pick, as redundant as this statement is going to be, I like the games I like.

Then there's also another important factor, which is time. I just don't have time to play all the games I have or want, so as sad as it is, I need a really good deal to justify getting a game that I won't be touching in who knows how long. I've bought games that I haven't yet played and are collecting dust for years which went for cheaper later on (looking at you, The Witcher 3 GOTY) and that's a real bummer.

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Other: 480 games for $0,5

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I don't subscribe to Humble Choice, but I enjoy some cheaper indie games, so I would probably say around 9 to 12 games. I would prefer if they did some research and found good indie games to help bring to gamers attention rather than just pushing expensive AAA games. Maybe something like one of these:

Price per game (9-12 games, $240 each row)
60, 40, 40, 20, 20, 20, 20, 10, 10
60, 40, 40, 20, 20, 20, 10, 10, 10, 10
60, 40, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 10, 10
60, 40, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 10, 10, 10, 10
60, 40, 20, 20, 20, 20, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10

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i don't like games being added which are only a access page to buy a tone of dlc which either was missing from the base game or does not really matter but to have the "complete" game it does

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1200 games for $12 (1 cent each), there's definitely enough trash on Steam to make it happen.

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I answered them they should survey us on how much we appreciate every single game, every month. Their survey is far too simple.

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I think it doesn't have to be an specific number. They should search for good games and the amount can vary from 6 to 12 each month depending on the games they tought we would like.

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Quality > Quantity

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sadly price doesn't really reflect the quality... for quite some time I found more indie titles I truly enjoyed than AAA.

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buying more games lets u play more genres and gets u out of ur comfort zone

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counterpoint: the ever-growing backlog means most games will never be played.

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well kinda i do alote of indie games if u have any suggestion hit me up or any mmorpg that is good

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I don't see the e-mail; what is the title of the e-mail?

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it is: We'd like your feedback!

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Thanks, I don't have it. I guess yearly subscriber's opinions are not important. :)

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its simple, never before bundled games that dont take 20 minutes to finish

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that vote doesn't make sense
but i personally prefer more AAA or better indie games
2nd vote should be fine, assuming each game is $60 and we actually get $240 value
but of course we know that's just BS

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I would honestly answer "It depends" as the quality is what matters, but higher price doesn't always mean higher quality.
A well curated list is best.
I feel like because of this, this survey is flawed.

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I don't really think more expensive game is equal to a better game, so I don't necessarily feel lowering the number for that reason would be great. Although if lowering the game number results in a higher cut to the devs/publishers and that makes them more willing to bundle games they usually wouldn't, I think that would be cool.

Nice thing about greater number is that more games means you're more likely to find something you like just in terms of a probability sense.

I think around 8-10 could maybe be a good number, and in general I think a variety of more expensive well known games and cheaper hidden gems is cool (which is kind of how the bundles are already anyways).

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fewer but better games is what i would want. nothing lower than a 75 metacritic!

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Not every game has a critic score out there though

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Ya, I am totally cool with them leaving out games that are well known enough to have 4 reviews written about them.

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Hmmmmm.... In principle, (less games which are REALLY good) >>> (tons of poor games)... I mean, we already have tons of poor games have in our backlogs. :D

But price is not the same as quality; the $240 value means nothing since base prices feel almost arbitrary these days... :P

So the old cynical me is thinking: "we want to offer less games per month, so let us pretend it is the users that made us do so".

Cheers!

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I actually prefer it the way it is.

They are putting a monetary value on it, as if more expensive = better quality. It does not. Some of the smaller indie games have been far more enjoyable than the bigger games in some cases.

If they reduced it to 5-6 games, there would be less to choose from. The chances of getting games in every bundle that actually suits your taste would be greatly diminished. As it is, I haven't skipped many monthlys because there's usually something in there that appeals to me, even if it's not the main titles. If they do this, it's inevitable that people will pause a lot more due to genre preferences and so on.

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Let us choose our own games from the bundlestore. That would be great

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Did the sliders always start the charity at such a low %?
From what math I did, it was well under 10%.

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