The price on G2A is 7.2 euros now. How do people get it at such a low price? It's 18.2 euros on steam.

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cheaper regions...

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Or buying it when it's even cheaper (like Summer/Winter Sale) and not selling it until later when the price goes back up and settles.

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Carding.

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Exactly this.

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What does that mean. :)

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They sell their trading cards, buy it on sale, and they reduce the price on G2A with the price they got for the cards. In most cases, they sell cards they received from games they got for free, so all card money is a bonus.
For example, if you can sell cards for 5 bucks and buy a game on sale for 15 dollars instead of 30, then you can ask for 12.50 for it and still receive a 2.50 profit.

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Or, well… that. ^__^"
(To my defence, I had a guy on my friend list who did what I said above; he farmed several alt accounts for freebie cards and used it for Steam game trading.)

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If they already got $5, why would they bother spending $10 extra on the game and getting only $7.50 back?
It kinda defeats the purpose.

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It's one of the few ways of turning Steam wallet money into (PayPal) real money.

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Selling csgo/tf2 keys is cheaper though. And easier to sell.

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He actually made a 2,5 dollar loss (+ whatever % G2A takes), the only advantage to his method is he exchanged Steam Wallet money for real money. But from what I've read buying CSGO/TF2 keys and reselling them is a more profitable way of exchanging your Steam Wallet money for real money. I'm no expert though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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True. Although I assume there is a much larger market for actual games on G2A, especially of the non-bundled kind, than for CS/TF keys, which are mostly used by Steam traders.

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Yeah, I guess there are a lot of CSGO/TF2 key sellers already. 2:1 just seemed like a bad exchange ratio imo, but really I don't know since I've never done it.

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"carding" often refers to credit card fraud

  • Obtain stolen credit card details
  • Buy game from Steam
  • Sell on G2A for less than cheapest ever Steam price, so that it is sold as quickly as possible
  • Buyer gets working game, marks as "received"
  • Credit card owner reports fraudulent charge, gets new credit card, purchase from Steam is reversed and game gets revoked
  • G2A buyer loses cheap game he bought, requests refund from G2A, gets refused
  • G2A seller keeps money and positive feedback, because it worked at the time of purchase and the buyer can't take it back
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Lol. What a game that is. ^_^ Thank you all. :)

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Hmmm... never happened to me. Bought SWTOR keys there, Shadow of Mordor and other small Steam games

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Isn't it region locked?

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you mean the game from the steam store or a key from somewhere else?

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That is not the chinese retail key, this is the correct link: https://steamdb.info/sub/27699/

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If you bought it from a chinese reseller then probably is not a legit (authorised by Bethesda) one.

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surely anyone can put those logos on a web site or even in a shop window - doesn't mean they are legit :)

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I was told that when I stopped lurking this would happen :( - now edited to remove all previous information - as the user deleted all of their comments - some people are just odd it seems :(

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same as GMG

Given that GMG has a reputation for unauthorized sales, they're probably not the best example of a "legit seller". :P

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It's a strange logic of steam. Very low prices for big wealthy countries and very high prices for small poor countries. No one know why. :(

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Yes, we poor people from Germany/UK/US have to pay way less than those rich asshats from Brazil and Russia. Shame on them.

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I have a lower annual income than a Russian in the same job. I pay 2-3 times more on Steam…

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I live in quite poor country, right next to Russia I may add, yet I still pay the same prices as old Europe countries.

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Well EU is most expensive region.

In Norway, when they have 2x more PKB per capita in comparison to Eu countries, they have also like 30% lower prices.

Steam pricing is terribly bad.

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UK should be the most expensive, although now they may compete with the Euro region, given how the value of the sterling is still dropping.

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Brazil and Russia aren't small poor countries, and the Czech Republic is not Germany/UK/US, yet they get the worst prices. In general, most of the small poorer countries have higher prices than elsewhere, or US prices if they're lucky (but miss out on on most special offers that US get).

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It's nothing to do with Steam as prices are set by the publishers.

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^

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Well Australia is not exactly a poor country and the prices here sometimes are through the roof.
Look at Civ 5 for example. Its worth $70 USD in Australia and less than half that in US or most other countries.
http://i.imgur.com/LiSP2mX.png

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Old Legendary Edition pricing before it got converted to a Bundle deal on the Steam store maybe. Those were cheaper than current steam prices.

When it got to the conversion Bethesda decided to reapply their price-gouging on DLC policy, and the price of the package got jacked up the price to the level of buying base game + DLC seperately.

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Thank you all. :)

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Some G2A sellers (mostly those with thousands of games sold) buy lists of stolen credit cards, then, they buy lots of keys to resell. Sometimes the keys are revoked and sometimes don't.

You can read about it here

The problem is that this business model is fundamentally flawed and facilitates a black market economy. I’ve spoken to a merchant on G2A about how he’s making $3-4k a month, and he outlined the core business model:

Get ahold of a database of stolen credit cards on the darkweb
Go to a bundle/3rd party key reseller and buy a ton of game keys
Put them up onto G2A and sell them at half the retail price

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Wow, that explains a lot. Thank you.

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It is a rare method though. Many keys bought on G2A are revoked, but they usually just play regional pricing, sales, and bundles. In most cases, if you are patient enough you can buy the same game cheaper somewhere, but G2A plays successfully on those who are impatient or lazy to look around on the internet for better deals.

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but G2A plays successfully on those who are impatient or lazy to look around on the internet for better deals.

*and have questionable morals and a lack of responsible behavior

Not that I'm picking on any individual that uses the site [to the contrary, my lack of insisting insight into where my SG wins are coming from would prevent me from taking any sort of high ground on the matter], but use of the site is one of those things that's awkward to try and justify to others, given the damage the site does to users and developers both.

Hell, torrenting has far more justifications than G2A does. :/

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Hell, torrenting has far more justifications than G2A does. :/

The funny part is that from an ethical and often from the developer's/publisher's financial point of view, it has. Piracy causes less damage than funding people of questionable background using questionable methods to acquire keys sold on a website of questionable legality.

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There's like, a dozen solid justifications for torrenting, and even when you push past all of those, you still have the vague "I believe information ought be free and paid for voluntarily" approach. It's not in line with most mindsets, but it's still a justifiable perspective.

Meanwhile, there's not a single justification for G2A other than "I'm a youtuber who gets paid by them, and capitalism is my god."

The fact that the developers also are of the mindset that G2A is worse only emphasizes just how distasteful they really are. :/

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I myself got the game 2 years ago for like $7.50 on GreenManGaming during the Christmas sale. Was 75% off, plus used a coupon code for an additional 25% off or something like that.

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If it were another website It could be worth the money, but g2a...

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''We're going to conveniently assume people who bought the game from g2a whould have bought it at full price from a retail store"

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No need to assume they were obtained fraudulently. As has been said, not being region locked, it can be bought in cheaper regions. Equally, if I'm not mistaken the low sale price in Europe was about 5.99 euros.

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How's that not fraud? Is the seller not defrauding the publisher by obtaining cheaper good via deception and them selling them in a market they were never intended for.

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Yes - and - No - don't burn me for this one, but it is both answers, cause the publisher has clearly decided that they are willing to accept the lower price for their game from the different regions, and perhaps a higher price from, say, mine. Now I am unlikely to go searching too much for that cheaper option, cause I don't have the money anyway, so I will wait for it to be on sale. But others will go searching for it. Now if the publisher didn't want this to happen, they would region lock it, not just sell it cheap unlocked in those regions, so they anticipate that some people will circumvent in this manner - but they also probably think that those people are the ones that might just as easily pirate the game - so some money is better than no money at all - especially as they have decided that the price is acceptable. It is a grey area, and I myself have never knowingly done it - but I can see the reasoning behind some doing it. Really wish games were not so expensive where I live :(, or I would play and purchase more...

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This is kinda sad but i mad for bathesda and i wont buy their games anymore. I really want to buy dlcs to Skyrim to get that 100% achievement :D and instead i ask my friend for family share :D

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I bought it on g2a. I only needed 2 dlcs. Now, what happens, happens. ^_^

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That's a bit of a waste, now that Legendary Edition is on Steam as a bundle, so you can just buy the remaining DLCs directly.

Though I guess if you were missing the two expensive DLCs, your way is probably still cheaper :P
Really silly how that works out.. :/

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yeah its still not worth it i need to pay 20 euro

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Yea, I was waiting for the 2 most expensive dlcs on steam to drop on prices, but the lowest price ever was only 10 euros each. This way I got them both for 7.2 :)

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Steam had them for $5 USD each just a short while back, which I think brought it to $6.10 for both through the bundle option.
That aside- as I said, it's silly and a waste, but it's unfortunately a superior option to take your approach in most cases.

I really dislike modern sales practices, and Bethesda has always been one of the worse ones for it.. :/

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And Amazon had them like $2.5 each..
I refuse to pay more now! :P

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Well, that's not what I was getting at- I was more poking at the unnecessary need to rebuy content due to how things are all-too-often sold through Steam- but yeah, I quite often get into that mindset, myself. :X

Though I wouldn't rely too heavily on Amazon sale price listings, since those tend to be limited quantity and sell out very fast, in my experience. So it's less a sale price, and more a special limited time promo.

GMG and GamersGate often have [Lowest Steam pricing -10 to -20%], however, and they often don't match those prices again [within any reasonable timespan]. So there's a spot where you often have to wince at missing out.

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Unfortunately in Serbia, prices don't drop that low. :(

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am I the only one who see that steam is changing how their works?
there's no good prices anymore and everything is becoming slowly expensive...
they are changing old titles to new titles/bundles to fool prices tracking sites.
the sales are not sales anymore, they are just ridiculous discounts disguised as sales.
they are just changing how sales in general works... and people will not hold themselves to buy things.

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Steam is much bigger now and PC games sell better than 5-10 years ago. So no need to do so big discounts.

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"am I the only one who see that steam is changing how their works?"
no you arent the only one. steam is adjusting to a different market situaton.

"there's no good prices anymore and everything is becoming slowly expensive..."

  1. I dont know about the prices in your region but i just bought Shadow Warrior for 3,49€ and HoMM V for 2,49€ which is quite cheap here in Germany
  2. Steam doesnt decide what a game costs Devs/Publishers do
  3. Yes games get more expensive, just like everything else for whatever reason (lets just say inflation for arguments sake)

"they are changing old titles to new titles/bundles to fool prices tracking sites."

  1. See point 2 above,
  2. Steam rly is just a Storefront like any Shop in your City, they sell what they are given by Devs/ publishers and take their cut.
    Furthermore they dont seem to interested in what they sell, just look at all the Greenlight/ Early Access garbage on the Store

"the sales are not sales anymore, they are just ridiculous discounts disguised as sales.
they are just changing how sales in general works."
I guess you refer to there not being any Flash or Daily deals during the Big Sales. The vanishing of those is due to the refund policy Steam adapted to. No point in selling a game for a set price for most of the Sale and the lowering the prices for flash or daily deal, just to have all the previously bought copies of that game refunded and bought at the even lower price. That would just add processing costs for Valve. And i'm personally glad to see them gone especially the flash deals.

"and people will not hold themselves to buy things."
no idea what you meant to say with that..

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my point is: latest "deals" are weak... even the crappiest sale ever was better than this last one.
I didn't mean flash sales because I arrived on steam before that. I mean sales in general.
the "new market situation" now is reach consoles prices. this is where I think steam is going to.

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how can the last sale be crappier than the crappiest sale? wouldn't that make the last sale the crappiest one?

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when I say "the crappiest sale" and "better than this last one" in the same sentece, I think I don't have to add "excluding the last one" after "the crappiest sale" because it is logical. I confess that I don't know exactly how english fully works, but I think I don't have to write every single logical conclusion. (if you are joking, which I consider you are, I laughed because, somehow, you're right :P)

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I was joking!

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someday I'll get my s* together and learn some serious english.
my self-taught english is absolutely fucked up. well... at least is better than nothing. xD

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Valve influences the prices though. They now take at least 30% cut, and that is the minimum, and they also have a minimum price they take no matter what. This is very likely a large part of the reason why there are no more large discounts on PC any more. The other being the market large enough to actually milk it, banking on the fact that Steam is so dominant, it essentially has a monopoly.

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This +1 - you only have to look at the stupidity of amazon pricing to realise that this is true - as on amazon I can often buy a full boxed game, which they have bulk purchased from the publisher direct, for less that it costs for the steam code - as they are capable of price reduction to get rid of stock (stock costs them money in the space it takes up).... Now that should NEVER happen, it's just a waste of resources all round. But their is a valve cut being added to redeem on steam somewhere, and no cost for space, so no need to dump stock and thus reduce prices to free up room for new stock - it is quite a poisonous situation in some cases :(

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i got it about $9 on my country,, does it cheap for $9?

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Yea, that is cheap. :)

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I bought it for $10 on Amazon several months back. I think the price went up after the remastered edition was announced including the free upgrade to owners of the legendary edition.

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Yea, that's why I was wondering why the prices are low now on g2a.

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Wasn't the Legendary Edition about 5-7€ on sale before 2k pulled it off steam?

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Well it depends on the county. In serbia it was 10 euros at it's lowest.

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NEVER BUY ANY-KEY IN G2A. TOO RISKY

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Well if you have g2a guard and a seller has over 10000 sales with 99% positive, I think it's safe. :)

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You know the Mafia did G2A Guard first, they called it protection money! llol

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xD

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If a seller has over 10k sales, then it is actually a group, and a high chance of being the actual organised crime. No, I am not even kidding, some Eastern European mobs use game trading or game making to launder money.

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Well, when you buy a physical copy of Skyrim, it comes with a Steam key for the game. The Legendary Edition costs no more than $20, so someone could just buy it brand new, sell the disk for about $15, then sell the key for more than $5 and make profit. If I had to guess, that's how some of the people are selling it so cheap q:

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AFAIK with all PC games the disc is just the installer. DRM is required and you cannot play without activating in Steam with that key.

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I use G2play all the time witch i think is the same company

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