They sell their trading cards, buy it on sale, and they reduce the price on G2A with the price they got for the cards. In most cases, they sell cards they received from games they got for free, so all card money is a bonus.
For example, if you can sell cards for 5 bucks and buy a game on sale for 15 dollars instead of 30, then you can ask for 12.50 for it and still receive a 2.50 profit.
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He actually made a 2,5 dollar loss (+ whatever % G2A takes), the only advantage to his method is he exchanged Steam Wallet money for real money. But from what I've read buying CSGO/TF2 keys and reselling them is a more profitable way of exchanging your Steam Wallet money for real money. I'm no expert though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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"carding" often refers to credit card fraud
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That is not the chinese retail key, this is the correct link: https://steamdb.info/sub/27699/
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I live in quite poor country, right next to Russia I may add, yet I still pay the same prices as old Europe countries.
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Brazil and Russia aren't small poor countries, and the Czech Republic is not Germany/UK/US, yet they get the worst prices. In general, most of the small poorer countries have higher prices than elsewhere, or US prices if they're lucky (but miss out on on most special offers that US get).
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It's nothing to do with Steam as prices are set by the publishers.
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Well Australia is not exactly a poor country and the prices here sometimes are through the roof.
Look at Civ 5 for example. Its worth $70 USD in Australia and less than half that in US or most other countries.
http://i.imgur.com/LiSP2mX.png
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Old Legendary Edition pricing before it got converted to a Bundle deal on the Steam store maybe. Those were cheaper than current steam prices.
When it got to the conversion Bethesda decided to reapply their price-gouging on DLC policy, and the price of the package got jacked up the price to the level of buying base game + DLC seperately.
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Some G2A sellers (mostly those with thousands of games sold) buy lists of stolen credit cards, then, they buy lots of keys to resell. Sometimes the keys are revoked and sometimes don't.
You can read about it here
The problem is that this business model is fundamentally flawed and facilitates a black market economy. I’ve spoken to a merchant on G2A about how he’s making $3-4k a month, and he outlined the core business model:
Get ahold of a database of stolen credit cards on the darkweb
Go to a bundle/3rd party key reseller and buy a ton of game keys
Put them up onto G2A and sell them at half the retail price
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It is a rare method though. Many keys bought on G2A are revoked, but they usually just play regional pricing, sales, and bundles. In most cases, if you are patient enough you can buy the same game cheaper somewhere, but G2A plays successfully on those who are impatient or lazy to look around on the internet for better deals.
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but G2A plays successfully on those who are impatient or lazy to look around on the internet for better deals.
*and have questionable morals and a lack of responsible behavior
Not that I'm picking on any individual that uses the site [to the contrary, my lack of insisting insight into where my SG wins are coming from would prevent me from taking any sort of high ground on the matter], but use of the site is one of those things that's awkward to try and justify to others, given the damage the site does to users and developers both.
Hell, torrenting has far more justifications than G2A does. :/
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Hell, torrenting has far more justifications than G2A does. :/
The funny part is that from an ethical and often from the developer's/publisher's financial point of view, it has. Piracy causes less damage than funding people of questionable background using questionable methods to acquire keys sold on a website of questionable legality.
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There's like, a dozen solid justifications for torrenting, and even when you push past all of those, you still have the vague "I believe information ought be free and paid for voluntarily" approach. It's not in line with most mindsets, but it's still a justifiable perspective.
Meanwhile, there's not a single justification for G2A other than "I'm a youtuber who gets paid by them, and capitalism is my god."
The fact that the developers also are of the mindset that G2A is worse only emphasizes just how distasteful they really are. :/
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Stolen credit cards
http://www.pcgamesn.com/action-henk/action-henk-g2a-piracy
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How's that not fraud? Is the seller not defrauding the publisher by obtaining cheaper good via deception and them selling them in a market they were never intended for.
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Yes - and - No - don't burn me for this one, but it is both answers, cause the publisher has clearly decided that they are willing to accept the lower price for their game from the different regions, and perhaps a higher price from, say, mine. Now I am unlikely to go searching too much for that cheaper option, cause I don't have the money anyway, so I will wait for it to be on sale. But others will go searching for it. Now if the publisher didn't want this to happen, they would region lock it, not just sell it cheap unlocked in those regions, so they anticipate that some people will circumvent in this manner - but they also probably think that those people are the ones that might just as easily pirate the game - so some money is better than no money at all - especially as they have decided that the price is acceptable. It is a grey area, and I myself have never knowingly done it - but I can see the reasoning behind some doing it. Really wish games were not so expensive where I live :(, or I would play and purchase more...
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I bought it on g2a. I only needed 2 dlcs. Now, what happens, happens. ^_^
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That's a bit of a waste, now that Legendary Edition is on Steam as a bundle, so you can just buy the remaining DLCs directly.
Though I guess if you were missing the two expensive DLCs, your way is probably still cheaper :P
Really silly how that works out.. :/
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Yea, I was waiting for the 2 most expensive dlcs on steam to drop on prices, but the lowest price ever was only 10 euros each. This way I got them both for 7.2 :)
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Steam had them for $5 USD each just a short while back, which I think brought it to $6.10 for both through the bundle option.
That aside- as I said, it's silly and a waste, but it's unfortunately a superior option to take your approach in most cases.
I really dislike modern sales practices, and Bethesda has always been one of the worse ones for it.. :/
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And Amazon had them like $2.5 each..
I refuse to pay more now! :P
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Well, that's not what I was getting at- I was more poking at the unnecessary need to rebuy content due to how things are all-too-often sold through Steam- but yeah, I quite often get into that mindset, myself. :X
Though I wouldn't rely too heavily on Amazon sale price listings, since those tend to be limited quantity and sell out very fast, in my experience. So it's less a sale price, and more a special limited time promo.
GMG and GamersGate often have [Lowest Steam pricing -10 to -20%], however, and they often don't match those prices again [within any reasonable timespan]. So there's a spot where you often have to wince at missing out.
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Unfortunately in Serbia, prices don't drop that low. :(
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am I the only one who see that steam is changing how their works?
there's no good prices anymore and everything is becoming slowly expensive...
they are changing old titles to new titles/bundles to fool prices tracking sites.
the sales are not sales anymore, they are just ridiculous discounts disguised as sales.
they are just changing how sales in general works... and people will not hold themselves to buy things.
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Steam is much bigger now and PC games sell better than 5-10 years ago. So no need to do so big discounts.
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"am I the only one who see that steam is changing how their works?"
no you arent the only one. steam is adjusting to a different market situaton.
"there's no good prices anymore and everything is becoming slowly expensive..."
"they are changing old titles to new titles/bundles to fool prices tracking sites."
"the sales are not sales anymore, they are just ridiculous discounts disguised as sales.
they are just changing how sales in general works."
I guess you refer to there not being any Flash or Daily deals during the Big Sales. The vanishing of those is due to the refund policy Steam adapted to. No point in selling a game for a set price for most of the Sale and the lowering the prices for flash or daily deal, just to have all the previously bought copies of that game refunded and bought at the even lower price. That would just add processing costs for Valve. And i'm personally glad to see them gone especially the flash deals.
"and people will not hold themselves to buy things."
no idea what you meant to say with that..
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my point is: latest "deals" are weak... even the crappiest sale ever was better than this last one.
I didn't mean flash sales because I arrived on steam before that. I mean sales in general.
the "new market situation" now is reach consoles prices. this is where I think steam is going to.
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when I say "the crappiest sale" and "better than this last one" in the same sentece, I think I don't have to add "excluding the last one" after "the crappiest sale" because it is logical. I confess that I don't know exactly how english fully works, but I think I don't have to write every single logical conclusion. (if you are joking, which I consider you are, I laughed because, somehow, you're right :P)
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someday I'll get my s* together and learn some serious english.
my self-taught english is absolutely fucked up. well... at least is better than nothing. xD
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Valve influences the prices though. They now take at least 30% cut, and that is the minimum, and they also have a minimum price they take no matter what. This is very likely a large part of the reason why there are no more large discounts on PC any more. The other being the market large enough to actually milk it, banking on the fact that Steam is so dominant, it essentially has a monopoly.
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This +1 - you only have to look at the stupidity of amazon pricing to realise that this is true - as on amazon I can often buy a full boxed game, which they have bulk purchased from the publisher direct, for less that it costs for the steam code - as they are capable of price reduction to get rid of stock (stock costs them money in the space it takes up).... Now that should NEVER happen, it's just a waste of resources all round. But their is a valve cut being added to redeem on steam somewhere, and no cost for space, so no need to dump stock and thus reduce prices to free up room for new stock - it is quite a poisonous situation in some cases :(
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Yea, that's why I was wondering why the prices are low now on g2a.
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Well it depends on the county. In serbia it was 10 euros at it's lowest.
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Well, when you buy a physical copy of Skyrim, it comes with a Steam key for the game. The Legendary Edition costs no more than $20, so someone could just buy it brand new, sell the disk for about $15, then sell the key for more than $5 and make profit. If I had to guess, that's how some of the people are selling it so cheap q:
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I use G2play all the time witch i think is the same company
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The price on G2A is 7.2 euros now. How do people get it at such a low price? It's 18.2 euros on steam.
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