I'm quite new to SG and I've discovered that most people like to joke about French people being noobs and such.
I've never seen or heard it elsewhere on the web so I'm just asking myself why ?

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okay racism detected.

prepare for major racist comments.

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Just so I get this clear my question is racist ? You want me to close this before it gets out of hand ? I was just asking a serious answer here :(

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Read again.

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Wouldn't that be xenophobia, being French isn't a race.4
EDIT: Just to clarify, OPs question isn't exactly xenophobic either.

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It's stereotyping, which is a form of racism.

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But it's not technically racism in this context.

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you don't understand the things you talk about

not to say that French is not a race

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Agreed. Title should read: "What's with this race/ethnicity/culture and some obscure stereotype my internet buddies fabricated?"

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Maybe it's a prejudice like the jokes about Russians and vodka =)

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They tend to surrender easily.

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ouch!

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Ahaha ;)

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Haha, good one.

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1+

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I am a bad person, 'cause I laughed at this =)

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;_; (stolen from you :p)

Actually, I loled at dat WWII joke... XD

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Je t'aime. :3

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Funny that the French guy thinks this only happened in WWII. :)

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That was actually funny.

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Ah, and there we go. I figured the obligatory "they give up" reply was in here somewhere.

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yawn Looks like someone found Grandpa's favorite joke in the basement.

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it's not just grandpa's joke. it was around long before grandpa was. it is a joke that belongs to the ages.

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Sure, the joke that "people X suck because they always do / do not y" is probably as old as humanity. Doesn't make it an original and thus funny, or good type of joke, because they build on the unspoken upvaluing of one's society through the outspoken, negative stereotyping of another.

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You must be fun at parties.

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There's a difference between having a good time drinking beer or smoking weed with friends, and making shitty jokes that revolve around stroking one's ego by putting down someone else('s nationality).

So here's a joke in the same vein of those that you seem to think to be hilarious:
"-Why do Spanish people suck at gaming?
-Because running a proper economy is not the only thing they are too lazy to be bothered with."

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Forgot to add something about siestas there. And what did you expect, me to take offense about that? I rather tired of you all oversensitive jerks who readily tag everything as innapropiate. If you had not read the thread I thought that, even among French people, the joke was well received.

Anyways I have no need to put down anyone to have a good time and won't attack personally anyone either but that's a something and another is making silly jokes. And as I've said if your only concept of having fun is somoking pot or getting drunk and you cannot enjoy silly, petty things that life throws at you I will reiterate myself. You must be fun at parties.

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Those last two sentences.

Priceless.

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Nah, I keep the siesta-jokes for my Mexican family. Again, there's a difference between hilarious, silly, and inappropriate humor where stereotypes such as the ones you used are destroyed without being "oversensitive" at all (go and watch some Adult Swim shows like Wonder Showzen) and unfunny crap like "heh, France surrenders all the time", which was pushed hard by the American media during the war with Iraq.

Repeat those jokes often enough and you'll take them seriously. Same shit with the "lol this is funny, but I'm not racist"-crowd. Also, I'm talking college parties here, not Tupperware parties.

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You're forgetting one thing though, Spanish people don't suck at gaming.

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dude I was totally gonna say that. :D

"je me rends" (I surrender)

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Cracked me up! :D

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Napoleon would like to have a word with you

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I higly doubt I would be able to hear them from my standing point. Tell him to bring a ladder.

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I haven't heard that they are bad at gaming.

They are only bad at giving interviews

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I lol'd :D

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XD

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What's with all threads about French people these days? And who said that? D:

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Seen it several times on SG forums ;)

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Where? I just remember that french are unreliable... :p

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Because they're cheese eating surrender monkeys, of course. ///

In all honesty, I've been in some rooms on Counter Strike and Halo where the French have just dominated.

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Yeah don't know if you heard of Stephano for example (Sc2 player)

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:D

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Stephano says hi.

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My only experience with French gamers was a game of L4D2. They solved the language barrier problem of communicating what special infected they had seen by making sounds corresponding to each one, notably doing an exaggerated cough for the smoker. I think they referred to boomers as 'boom boom' though. Needless to say I was quite amused the whole time.

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That's pretty smart :)

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Boom boom...LOOOOL

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Most of you guys can't speak English very well, but worse most say they just do not want to speak English, which is very idiotic while various cultures/native languages are present.

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they don't have to speak your language to communicate with you, i mean you have the same option, right? how about you learn french.

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Implying english is his native langugage.

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Not exactly but paRaSen is implying he can speak flawless English

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implying that English is the only language in the the world that we can communicate with and that other must learn it, rather than broadening your spectrum and learn a new language

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ironically, my native language is German, but i can speak some French. The point is, English is taught in the most European countries, so why should i learn French when we both (or in some cases 5 people from 5 different countries) know English?

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but you do know french, try to communicate with them in that and if they still wont try to meet you half way than they arent worth playing with. you can't expect all people to go out on a limb for you with out you first showing them that you are willing to go out on one too.

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How is he NOT going out on a limb if he's German and he's speaking English in the first place? That would be like saying a German went to France and he's offended that people there wouldn't speak German back.

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but hes playing with french people correct, now it is safe to assume that they dont speak German, and may only speak a very poor English, your analogy is right, it is like a German went to France and he's offended that people there wouldn't speak German back. why because hes playing with french speakers

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Sadly, English is considered lingua franca nowadays and generally used as it.

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I've only heard French people use this excuse. No offence, but is it some kind of genitals-measuring competition, so it's insulting if you don't try to learn French?

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And why French which is not that an important a language. Learn Chinese (Mandarin?) or Spanish.

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actually the 4 main business language is are English, Spanish, Cantonese, and Arabic. and wile i do agree that a lot of people speak English, it dose not stop any one form being friendly and trying to engage people for speaking french, rather you expect someone to know English and if he doesn't start to speak it right away you think hes being a troll or a jerk, maybe that person is afraid of speaking it, he may think you'll troll him on how he talks.

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Most of you guys can't speak English very well

Implying you know all french people on the web...
I don't pretend being bilingal, but I'm perfectly able to write/speak ingame at least for basic exchanges. And what about people who thinks everybody speaks flawless english ?

Moreover, we always talk about the low level in foreign langage for french people, but do you really think it's different in other countries ?
I worked in the Orsay Museum, 99% foreigners, how many weren't able to speak to me english or worse, spoke me spanish/japanese/russian/german/other as if I should know those language...

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I never heard about us being bad at games, but I being smelly and noisy I did. I have to agree some of us are noisy, especially when traveling.

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Yeah heard that too.

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And hairy and you burnt our vegetable trucks ;_;

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Travel south and try to be noisier than us.

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I only know 2 French, but they're are pretty good when it comes to gaming :P

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I just heard that french are bad at League of Legends but not in games generell and also I think thats completly nonsense because your land doesn't influence your gaming skills

btw sry for my bad english

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Actually it can, it's called genetics.

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Then why are there so many gold medalists runners from Kenya? Genetics itself couldn't do anywhere NEAR what we've seen from Kenya at the Olympics throughout the years, so the cause must be social. The land itself of course doesn't do anything, but in Kenya, for instance, there is a culture that glamorizes and rewards runners. Therefore more people will attempt to be runners. This means that instead of a population of 300,000 where 2% of the population is interested in running, they have a country of 50,000 where 20% of the population is interested in running (numbers used merely for demonstration and are not correct). So even though Kenya has a smaller population than others, they actually have a larger sample size for runners because of the way their society treats running. And with a larger sample size there is naturally a larger chance that one of those runners will be 'the fastest'.

Now: how does all that apply to the French gamers? Well I don't know but I would assume that gaming is not as popular a hobby in France than it is in America or perhaps other European countries. So because they have a smaller sample size of gamers, they have fewer 'good' players. So the odds of you running into a French player who is good, is lower. Not all French players are bad, and there is nothing MAKING them bad, it's just you are less likely to play with a good one because of the smaller sample size.

I totally stole that Kenya thing from somewhere an I can't remember where. Some genetics class probably. Anyways that's part of the reason stereotypes like this exist: societal pressure.

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You can't compare running to gaming.You only know the most popular runners but you meet good and bad gamers.The percentage of bad gamers shouldn't change.

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yes it would. Society would not be encouraging the good gamers to get better, or try games, or continue. You'd get the same number of REALLY bad players perhaps, but the good ones that could shine wouldn't get the encouragement, so they wouldn't shine. They'd probably be better than their peers, but not by very much.

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I never heard they're bad at gaming, just that they're not reliable. Arsa pisha ariquitaun taun taun.

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Never heard about that. I've just heard they're cowards.

Also, I have cousin in France, he's certainly not bad at games.

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the french? laziness trumps bad skills.

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If you play games like League of Legends... Then you will find some of them... But germans players are more bad (aggressive, flame etc.);s

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should be "german players" ;)

But yes, many german players are aggressive. But many americans are aggressive, too, especially the little kids in CoD... ;)

Aber ja, leider sind viele deutsche Spieler aggressiv. Aber die kleinen amerikanischen Kinder in CoD sind da nicht besser :I

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Die kleinen sind nie besser egal aus welchem Land sie kommen :D

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Just because the most germans you see in games are below 12 years

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Oh no, we're very good at gaming and crafting games you all love. And you should keep in mind that it demands tons of skills and work, considering that we spend a lot of time everyday in talking very loud, cooking the best food in the universe, burn trucks of vegetables (it's better when cooked you know ?) and make love.

The sentence about the surrender is cruel. Fighting in his homeland seems to be a special thing that europeans know. I do my best to write, but i'm afraid that my english will never be as good as yours. We can go on in french if you want. Not now, my girlfriend is teasing me.

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Je suis d'accord avec ton mon pote, encore de minables rageux... bravo et vive la france

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I WRITE IN BOLD LETTERS.

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At least they're not Brazilian...

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You know, not all of us are retarded... and by that I mean most of us behave as if we were. :<

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My only gaming experience with a French person was one time on Dragon Ball Z Raging Blast on the ps3, I was playing online and my opponent was some little French kid who kept making obnoxious noise through his mic

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Quantic wants to talk with you sir

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And Italians. And Russians. And Brazilians. And so on...
I will agree that often the language barrier plays a role; apart from that, generalization is always pointless.

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Same stereotypes as with russians and brazilians.

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CTRL+F "Skullripper".

I wonder where is that racist moron.

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Closed 11 years ago by DreamCatcher8.