Hi. I'm not looking for a specific solution, just wondering if there's a simple way to restrict access to own public giveaways for inactive members but active leechers whose last giveaways were a long time ago (year or so), without using external tools like sgtools or individually BLing each such user (which is static solution not dynamic).

1 month ago

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Nope, there is no way around it with public giveaways.

1 month ago*
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Ok, it's sad.
I rarely do public giveaways, and when I do, it's only for high levels. But I still see plenty amount of leechers.

1 month ago*
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Alternatively, there's fewer leechers in the greater half of levels, but you will still encounter them. Although those often have contributed to the site in some way, which is nice.

1 month ago
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Yeah, I understand that. But I am a relatively new member myself, so I want to give more chances to currently active ones.

1 month ago
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Small suggestion: You can try doing invite-only giveaways linked in the descriptions of public ones. I've done that a few times mostly when I have multiple copies of a game, so humans who read it have more chances. It's not fully relevant to your question, but it does deter some unwanted individuals somewhat.

1 month ago
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Thank you for your suggestion, I appreciate it.

1 month ago
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I have one such running. Diference in entries is like 400:5, but actually more people found it, just haven't entered

1 month ago
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Generally 10-15% found it on mine but a few went lower, more often 10. For some reason, one barely reached 4%

1 month ago
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Use sgtools.info.

1 month ago
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Ok, but it's too complex in my case.

1 month ago
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Well note that blacklists also have a 1000 cap so that surely isn't an option either even if you tried.

1 month ago
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Thanks for mentioning this, but blacklist cap is not the biggest problem for me. I'm more concerned that it's static and not flexible to manage, although that's probably how it should be.
In general, I don't want to blacklist anyone, I just want to limit giveaways by a certain parameter, and I think that additional filters on giveaway creation would solve my issue.

1 month ago*
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It really isn't. It only gets complicated if you want to make it complicated (aka custom rules). Just tick the flags you want and set a minimum real CV ratio (where <1 means they won more than gave and >1 is they gave more than they won). If you want to employ complex rules, then learn how to use the custom rules or just whitelist people and do whitelist only giveaways.

I have started to only do sgtools protected giveaways.

1 month ago
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Thanks for the explanation. I just want to create giveaways as usual but with additional filter. Unfortunately, I'll get extra work by using sgtools that currently I don't want to deal with.

1 month ago
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It doesnt feel like homework, if you copy it from someone else ;)

My quick learning was from copying other people's filters.
I had no idea what Real CV was, but I copied what others were doing. And saw how it actually worked!!

My suggestion would be to begin by copying something similar to Hbarkas, who uses the easily accessible filters.
Pro usage would be something like PoeticKatana's which also factors in RCV in terms of Regional GA as well by using other custom filters. Just copy paste it in seconds! Pretty awesome.

1 month ago*
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Thanks for your suggestion. I will keep this in mind if I use sgtools.

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Also thanks for that, had no idea you could copy the rules like that

1 month ago
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Can't use SGTools without using SGTools (:

1 month ago
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Not even external tools can do that currently, and likely won't - there has been requests for SGTools to add a "last GA date" filter, but it's unplanned.

1 month ago
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Oh, so even using sgtools wouldn't solve my issue.

1 month ago
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Id say there is certainly a correlation between a good Real CV and non leechy stats. Hence SGtools can certainly help.
After a few hit and trials, you can also Blacklist whoever you want. But atleast it wont be a chore now thanks to SGtools. As Regional RCV + wins limitation (example: Less than 700 wins) + VAC bans filter usually takes care of it.

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Ok, thanks for your valuable tips :)

1 month ago
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By now I'd already be kind of satisfied if cg gave us better (or any) tools to identify blacklist candidates or if handling the blacklist itself and its limit would be less of a pain.

1 month ago*
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Agree with that.

1 month ago
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You could join a group (like Unlucky 7 for unlucky people etc), and then make group only giveaways perhaps?

1 month ago
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Thanks for your suggestion, but that's not what I'm looking for :)

1 month ago
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Not even sgtools will help you with that, best you can do is find a suitable group which do not accept such people. Or join some group you want support and filter such people by blacklist, 1000 spots should be enough for such way

1 month ago
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Thank you for your reply. For now I'll use the blacklist as a filter.

1 month ago
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For what it's worth, I used to be a decent contributor. It wasn't full price AAA titles or anything, but I managed to get my level up pretty decently. Then a series of unfortunate events happened, and right now I'm struggling just to pay my static monthly bills, let alone buy games for other people. Every time I think I'm about to have some excess money, something comes up. The most recent was a $900 bill for a cracked windshield because apparently commercial trucks hauling rocks are immune to the law that says any load must be secured at all times. Before that it was a $1200 bill because I hit a pothole in the road that the city can't be bothered to fix, and it bent something under the car (I don't know enough about cars to understand what happened, but the wheel was at a funny angle after that). When I'm only MAKING $1200 a month (disability) and still have to pay rent, food, gas, insurance, etc ... it's not so easy these days. So ... I guess I'll just have to stop using the site altogether since apparently I'm now just a leech because I haven't been able to buy video games to give to other people for over a year, even though the one thing I've won in the past 9 months was a DLC that I didn't even receive.

1 month ago
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I'm sorry to hear that, I hope things get better for you. I have no intention of offending anyone or hurting anyone's feelings with this post. I understand that SG is used by a lot of people, each with their own life circumstances and their own views.
I'm just experimenting to create a more pleasant user experience for myself when using SG, because some aspects of SG disappoint me.

1 month ago
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Mmm. Maybe try a group where you have to make monthly giveaways, or have some decent ratio in the group or you will be kicked. There are many, like Pandora, mini jedi training, jedi training, bundle quest, Knights Of Havenshire, new very positive, new very giveaway 2.0, total war arena, etc, etc.

1 month ago
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I mainly make group only giveaways and barely enter public ones. I am already a member of most of the groups you listed :)
My question was about public giveaways.

1 month ago
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Those groups are just trading groups behind the veil of giveaways and "generosity"

1 month ago
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unfortunately you cant make any restrictions other than by level, even sgtools doesnt have a way to restrict users that havent made any giveaway in years. the only solution is the whitelist or creating your own group with rules you are happy with(thats what i did). just remember that creating your own group also needs some time to manage it.

1 month ago
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+1

1 month ago
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Ok, I got it. Creating my own group is overkill for me. I'm happy with the activity in group giveaways, including being a part of your group :)

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https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/eg6IX/additional-giveaways-restriction

That was my idea. Poll suggest that most people were against it xD

1 month ago
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Wow, it looks interesting :)
I feel your pain and I think the main problem with addressing this issue is that there are many factors to consider, and more complex solutions may introduce new problems that must be solved, not to mention the implementation itself.
To be honest, I created this thread knowing that there was no simple solution to my issue, I just wanted to hear the opinions of other community members.

1 month ago
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