PWYW or BTA would be more accurate. So I think the question is valid. But the Bundle List Overlord accorded Darksiders II bundle status under similar circumstances, so the result is unsurprising.
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Its a beat the average to get brutal legends and the pay what you want is if you wanna pay more than the bta. So its both :P
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I don't think it needs to be in both to be classified as a bundle game. There are plenty of bundles that don't hold multiple pricing tiers yet they still qualify for the bundle list on account of being on a PWYW format.
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"pay at least this much bundle" being at least a penny? I don't think it warrants the distinction though you may argue that in a true PWYW format, you could choose to pay nothing at all.
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But the bundle itself is PWYW. I don't think that just because Brutal Legend is in a different tier means it's in a separate bundle. In the end, does it really matter what the classification is? BTA games have always been included in the bundle list.
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I'm just going to copy and paste from a few of my other posts in this thread to reply to your comment.
"The bundle and contribution value system is far from perfect. It was created as a blanket rule that should deter the majority of abuse. Of course, there are going to be extremes in both directions that don't fit well under the current system, such as with the Crazy Machines/Shadow Harvest sales. If the mods really feel a game is an exception to the rule, they will consider changing that specific game in question after weighing the positives and negatives to the change. Until then, they'll continue to use the system in place."
"Humble Bundle has a moving average. The bundle has been up for less than a day, there is no telling how low or high that average will go in the next 13 days the bundle is active. It was as low as $6.xx and as high as 10 dollars in a period of hours. This is not something a mod would be able to reasonably predict or track over the entire lifetime of a bundle."
I think it's a bit too early to start using this bundle as cause for a change in the current system. I understand the reasoning, since at its current pricing, to get Brutal Legend, it would cost people $6.97 more for just that one game. Compared to the listed price of the game, that works out to be roughly 53.53% off, hardly abusable. However, this doesn't mean you can just buy the game by itself for $6.97 either, so to consider that the price of Brutal Legend is wrong.
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he means for bta games.
the penny thing is for the other 3. (bta usually around $5 min and almost always higher so its pay $5+ or more, not a penny(but indieroyale is marked and the whole bundle is a bta so doesn't work anyway unless you also argue to unmark that). just saying your statement is wrong for the context))
(not sure, think the poster is asking for the bta games to be counted different because some of the averages are high enough to be comparable to sales. Hes saying the rest of the bundle can be valued at $1 so the bta is selling for [bta_price] - [$1]
and if that >= [hypothetical_steam_game_price] then he wants the * removed? so like 75% off that sort of thing i guess)
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He didn't ask for a change to the current bundle system. He asked why was it included in the bundle list and I explained that it was because it is included in a PWYW bundle. All BTA games have been added to the bundle list regardless of what the BTA price is.
Humble Bundle has a moving average. The bundle has been up for less than a day, there is no telling how low or high that average will go in the next 13 days the bundle is active. It was as low as $6.xx and as high as 10 dollars in a period of hours. This is not something a mod would be able to reasonably predict or track over the entire lifetime of a bundle.
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completely agree. Give the mods a break, they set the rule and are sticking to it. Any bundle that has a varying price point is going to be on the list. Just sucks for people who bought Brutal Legend on Steam recently and didnt give it away in time :)
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The bundle designation is very subjective though. For instance I could go onto GamersGate right now and buy the Tom Clancy collection for $6.25 for 5 games all with $10 contrib value and none are on the bundle list. Its a tough position for mods to pick and choose what qualifies and what doesnt. I for one dont envy their position
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I totally agree with your post. Bundle system not VERY very perfect...
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In this case though, it was easy to decide, I'm sure. Helps that it is on the Humble Bundle site.
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I agree, the bundle and contribution value system is far from perfect. It was created as a blanket rule that should deter the majority of abuse. Of course, there are going to be extremes in both directions that don't fit well under the current system, such as with the Crazy Machines/Shadow Harvest sales. If the mods really feel a game is an exception to the rule, they will consider changing that specific game in question after weighing the positives and negatives to the change. Until then, they'll continue to use the system in place.
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And more, there're a few double standarts in this system - Gamefly sales, Forge, Sniper warrior and such coupon games...
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As far as I'm aware, Gamefly limits you to one purchase per account. Forge required one coupon per purchase, and you can only buy a 4-pack once if you don't already own the game. Sniper Ghost Warrior similarly required one coupon per purchase, though I'd say that coupon was slightly easier to obtain than the Forge one was.
In my opinion, that hardly constitutes as abuse. You don't see people racking up 2k contribution value at a 20:1 ratio through giving away those titles. I suspect Crazy Machines was placed on the list because not only were people allowed to purchase as many of them as they desired, it has been on sale multiple times in the past few months, leading to rampant abuse.
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Anything that could be abused to get higher contributor points will be included in bundle list
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Like woman's logic. Why doesnt someone buys $20 Steam game for $5 because of it CV and not like BTA for 7-8 bucks?
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75% off $20 is $5 while the Double Fine Bundle is $45 or $11.25 when it goes 75% off. Since they include the soundtracks, you'd have to buy everything separate which would be $75 or $18.75. Either way it's more than $7-8 so it's not the same.
It's easier to just put everything on the list rather than pick and choose whether it's too close to retail pricing.
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"Like woman's logic."
Hahaha! Some woman is going to come along and ream you for that one. :)
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Just in case someone actually does take you seriously (Which would be pretty hilarious; I'm assuming you're being silly and not serious yourself.). Human male brains are indeed larger than female's... by about 10%, but they are structured differently.
If size was all that matters, we would be "blown out of the water" intelligence wise by sperm whales and elephants. :D
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My takeaway...a woman confirms that size doesn't matter. Framing this shit
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Better yet, have it tattooed on your penis. But you might need to summarize even further. Not sure it will all fit. :P
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Haha. I knew I should have said "If size was all that matters when it comes to "The little grey cells" (As Hercule Poirot would say)," but I thought it might confuse the argument since grey matter isn't the only important part of the brain. XD
I did walk right in to that one.
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Good insight. See, this is proof that size of the brain doesn't matter. It's just that women often lose track of the discussion because they're multi-tasking, what with those cooking, cleaning and laundry responsibilities.
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actually didn't know that :) Was joking.
The tiny brain part of that was trying and failing to quote anchorman which I looked up and is actually "just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science."
Its a third the size, but I went with an approximation of a third smaller(66.6) so i got it all wrong D:
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A week ago I was on a date with a new girl, and there she was mad at me because girl came too late. And then she run away from me...
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She came too late, or you came too quickly? I can only imagine her being upset if it's the former.
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She came too late and was angry about that on me...
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Yeah, right. But I've found another 2 good nice girls
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I didn't mean something bad about our lovely woman :-) It's only my life's expirience
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Aha, all of you ladies are extrasensory individuals and Sigmund Freuds
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I don't buy because Steam has unrealistic price in my country. For game that cost you example 5 euro, I need pay 22 euro.
Conclusion: CV = USD Steam price. This is not fair.
Why Rome, Train Simulator, Sniper: Ghost Warrior, Death Really and Forge still not marked as bundle?
We can't "farming" with good promotions from others sites but Steam 90% deal is allowed?
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Owwww,too bad you just want to farm,I so feel not sorry for you.
Regional pricing does not matter for SG,its always the US price. Many people have a disadvantage because of that. So what?
90% deals are not bundled and it's pretty much the drawn line,as steamdeals go that far. Other sites have those deals,too,and its ok (GMG,GG,Amazon and the smaller sites,too). However what you don't understand that this is a humble bundle. Bundle keys initially were forbidden here,they were only allowed because of this bundle rule. It is a bundle? It gets on the bundle list.
The next thing you might not understand is that if you buy a bundle you pay for the package,not for one game cause you dont care for the rest. The package includes everything the bundle offers,even though its not for steam. Let's calculate that through. $8(currently,price is dropping) for games worth $60. Brütal Legend OST is another $5. Psychonauts score and OST are $5 each. Thats already $75 worth in steam. Additionally you get DRM free versions.
That was just BTA. Non BTA is $1 for $40 games + $10 ost and score + DRM free versions.
So why are 90% deals not bundled..............
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ROTFL. Regional pricing does not matter for SG,its always the US price ... and this is biggest problem with contribution.
Your logic is ridiculous: CM for 1 USD = Bundle (the first promotion not CM + CM 1,5 bundle), Rome for 1 USD = good promotion.
Psychonauts worth 5 UDS? Becasue Steam wants 5 USD? LOL. Listen kid. Over the last 15 years I collected, most played and sold over 1000 games (not bundle games, normal box version games). Finished (100%) Psychonauts in 2005. For me this game is worth 0, absolutely zero.
And now, at this point I can buy Psychonauts CD version without Steam DRM for 0,30 USD from local market.
OST? Who cares OST. Only idiot paying for OST. You bought game (license to use), music is a part of game.
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Crazy machines is dated back as bundle when it was bundled on galastore. IG did CM+CM 1,5 with the other 2 as BTA. The base bundle alone,which you mention,is $20 for $1 and therefor 95% discount. Rome and everything else you mention is 90%. 5% discount does not sound much,but its double the amount you get. 90% is pretty much the end of the line before something gets on that list. The higher the discount gets,the less you need to double the amount you get. 90% discount= $100 with $10. 95% is 200 for 10 and 96% would already be $250.
Also,it is 100% irrelevant what the game is worth in your opinion. The CV value is not your personal opinion,it is based on the $ prices of the games in the US. It is also irrelevant what you think is worth something in this bundle,you pay for the whole bundle,not one game.
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I/m waiting for this. Time to choose: Train Simulator, Forge or maybe Amazon Bundles:
The Desert to Sea Bundle: (Bioshock, Bioshock 2, Spec Ops: The Line)
The Crazy Action Pack: (Borderlands GOTY, Duke Nukem Forever, The Darkness II)
2K Mega Pack: Bioshock, Bioshock 2, Borderlands GOTY, CivCity Rome, Duke Nukem Forever Complete, Mafia II, Civilization V GOTY, Civilization IV Complete, The Stronghold Collection)
Microsoft 5 Game Indie Bundle (Deadlight, Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet, Iron Brigade, Mark of the Ninja, Toy Soldiers).
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Desert to sea: 60 for 10 (= 83%)
Crazy Action: 80 for 10 (= 88%)
Microsoft 5 game indie bundle: 70 for 10 (= 85%)
2k Megapack: $280 for 30 (= 89%)
Train Sim was 90%.
Forge was only that cheap for people who owned a coupon,so it was very limited.
They don't back you up,why did you wait for them?
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Steam doesn't actually converts the US $ in €, they do faster to change the currency symbol near the number, not realizing (or maybe they do even too well) that doing such they encharge EU ppl more than the actual price..
10 $ is NOT 10 €, EU ppl so actually pays around 13 $ something worth 10... (just an example, higher prices make this difference huge)
Besides this, some price is still better than going on store in town, or from some other site... not all, but SOME... I'd never buy Skyrim on Steam for example, nor some other, since I can find it for much less around, and with a FAIR currency convertion.
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If every single game that went on sale went on the bundle list, everything would be on the bundle list. I think what they're saying is that Brutal Legend couldn't really be used to farm CV much compared to the dirt-common 75% sales and the like.
I suggest just not worrying about it too much either way, though.
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I wonder why are you asking, do you intend to give it?
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Nope, I'm intend to be a great leecher, but it's an actual question not only for me.
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When you hit rock bottom, the only way is up.
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Everyone needs to man up and stop with all the whining. Steamgifts isn't about farming up your contributor value. Steamgifts is about generosity and giving away games to bring a little happiness into other people's lives. How much CV you get for a game versus how much you pay for it should not even be a concern, if it is, you're here for the wrong reasons.
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There's a good proverbial about that: "What is not prohibited - is allowed". Farming CV isn't prohibited on SG....
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Well, as I can see from your post "How much CV you get for a game versus how much you pay for it should not even be a concern, if it is, you're here for the wrong reasons.", you doesn't happy about that...
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first i read the % and went MEH... then i saw its from Raiden and had to accept it must be Legit!
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I agree with this too... But you have to consider an important detail...
If the 50% (even more) of ppl puts a limitation on their giveaway for only those who donated (aka 0.01$ or 10$ etc etc), then you're gonna force everyone to donate if they want to partecipate, since for non-donor there's few left...
Someone should donate only when they feel (and I don't feel like doing it just because they keep cutting me out, I'd feel more like that if I felt gratified) and not to be allowed to put the entry... Same way everybody should feel free to partecipate to the giveaways (they're gifts, they're meant to be it!)..
Also, the "only for contributor" option is not meant to generate more CV traffic, it was meant to be a prize for generosity, but right now is everywhere.... Just check this and then don't wonder why ppl just want to get some number in their CV spending few dollars...
I am myself getting frustrated by this situation...
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I'm not upset at all, but confused :) My first thought was "Wtf?! If Skyrim sometimes will be in bundle for 15+$ - will it be bundled also???"
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I actually saw famous games being gave that way... If you check Indiegala right now you'll see they give all Tropico serie for a few dollars... Isn't Tropico a well known game? Wasn't Mass Effect also well known?
I guess Skyrim might also become bundled, BUT I think it's a matter of permission maybe... and who knows if Bethesda would ever agree on such thing... :P
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Leech? I tell you something. I prefer good (in my opinion) games from past bundles than super extra new AAA games. But who share this game if people only fight for CV? Tell my who chooses example 6 Revenge of the Titans instead 1 Bioshock Infinity? Nobody, because most SG members prefer to share games that will give them CV.
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You've got it all wrong man. If my epeen isn't the longest than I am not winning. If I am not winning, then I am losing. If I am losing I am not getting new games. If I am not getting new games, than my epeen cannot grow. If my epeen cannot grow, then I am not winning.
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Actually, the bundle (3 games) is 1$, so if even you buy another copy together with BL+soundtracks, you're still getting 4 games (each is worth between 15$ and 25$)... And anyway is so true ppl want everything for free.... Isn't the huge discount (90% off!!!) already enough to you?
And btw, this CV thing is lame, I have 0 contributions yet because I cannot afford, I still live and I won a small and simple game so far, playing it and I'm fine... Even if I agree if someone says ppl feeds this CV thing too much by putting a lot of restrictions on their giveaway (even small ones, but except for some situation I don't see the meaning of doing it...)...
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Maybe it 3 games + 1 game? But not the whole pack of 4
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Yet you can't buy the 4th one alone from that bundle. You need to buy all of it.
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Dont choke with your spittle because of jealousy, bundle gifter
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He is gifting though, without being a jerk about it. Bundle game pack from a bundle site follows the bundle rule, and right now, it isn't him I see complaining about that.
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Erm, he's given away 7 games for a contribution of $89.96. You've given away 61 games for a contribution of $215.87. I'm confused...if he's a 'bundle gifter', what are you?
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You are wrong. Get's explained like once per week. Recent thread ;)
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So, we can't gift Double fine bundles anymore? Crazy Machines? ....? What's the logic?
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Because....its in a HumbleBundle?
Kinda obvious I think.
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I did, what you say makes 0 sense.
It's still a Bundle game, this is why you lose at trying to make me lose.
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Yeah, morning can kill me, my mistake.
I am so not loose, I am tight, got dat surgery!
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I believe anything that's in a bundle, BTA or not, will be added to the list. The BTA being high now does not mean it'll be high later.
I guess it would be considered if the BTA was close to the retail price of all four games in the bundle. I can't speak for anyone though.
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What about Windowsil? It was a BTA before in a Humble, it gained list immunity because the BTA value was more than Windowsil sold for at full price, but you did get a movie that sells for $10-15 with it, plus all the other games in the bundle and the ones added to the BTA later. (Average was around the same as what it is for Brutal Legend too, between $7-10.) I really think we have another Windowsil type case here.
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I'm not part of the staff handling the bundle list, and can't speak for their behalf. Exceptions can be made, but how they'll be made is up to the bundle staff.
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It's in a bundle, so it will count as a bundle.
I made a giveaway for the game, and bought a key from GMG. 2 hours later I noticed it was in the new HiB. Did I care? Not really. I mean, it sucks most that I paid double the price, and missed out on a great deal. But oh well.
As for my CV, who really cares? I give games for the fun of it. Not for some stupid number.
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You have my respect for this.
And then I don't understand why ppl complain so much... When I saw the bundle I said myself "wow! such generosity, I'll buy it" because I don't have those 4 games anyway, and I'd like to try them, I didn't think "I'll buy it to get more CV"... I hope you guys seriously think about, it's nice these bundle exists and if there was somebody able to complain, this one was the producer of the bundled games, NOT you. (and I don't see any complaints from them)
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Gotta agree, the price for the game is even less than 75% off its retail price and it's counts as a bundle game where there are countless games that go on discount well above that and get the full CV. But there's not much to complain, indeed its a flaw, a big one, but where did you see a system with any flaws? you just need to be happy that there's not even more of those huge flaws.
And if it really bothers you that much, remember that you are not forced to make a giveaway of it, there are other and better opportunities to get CV if its what you after.
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Bundles can be different from one HIB, isn't? We talk about base bundle + BTA, not about "the only one bundle without choice"
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Non-charity, 90+% off Amazon Bundles are immune to the Bundle list, so I can see the point of the BTA vs non-BTA argument.
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1$ for everything except brutal legend, and to get brutal legends as well you need to add 7$. Brutal Legend 75% off is 5$. 7$ is less than 75% off as 5$ which is more than 7$ is 75% off, Simple math.
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You failed much more than me, I was right and supported by others. So simply accept your loss. All facts are against you, you can only uselessly arguing further.
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You don't know how to debate, do you? the number of people supporting your side is irrelevant in a debate, you immaturely debating.
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Well, most of people don't care about the soundtrack, including me. But yeah, you are correct, I should consider the soundtrack as part of the price, I simply wasn't giving it any attention.
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Only the first dollar gets you the other 3 games, 7$ is to get Brutal Legends. If there wasn't a minimum and BTA options and you'd pay for whole bundle at minimum of 7$ than it would be '1,75$ each', but the bundle has 2 part, non BTA which is 1$ and BTA which is additional 7$.
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Look, you have to option in this bundle, 1$ for 3 games or 8$ for 3 games + Brutal Legends. Let say, there's a game that costs 20$ and it has an expansion that comes in a pack together with the base game and the pack costs 60$. So you want to say that the expansion doesn't cost 40$ in the end if the base game costs 20$ and together they are 60$?
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In your example one cannot say how much the expansion is worth.
You know: The base game is $20; The full pack is $60.
The base game itself can be cheaper,can be more expensive or couldnt be available at all. You just know that on the full pack its worth $60 together with the base game and you cannot seperate it in that package.
You can say the full pack is $40 more expensive than the base game alone,but that is not relevant here.
Example from supermarket life: A crate of beer is 10€. Now there is a offer where you get the crate together with a tankard for 11€. You might say "The tankard is 1€". But the tankard cannot be aquired to that price,buying it seperately is 8€. So you either take the deal with everything for 11€ or you just buy yourself the single components. No matter what the tankard is never 1€.
BL only has the price because the rest of the bundle is included. Its the strategy behind it.
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You miss my point, base game is 20$, the pack is 60$, so you pay 40$ to get the expansion. base bundle is 1$, BTA bundle is 8$, so you pay 7$ to get the BTA bonus.
All our discussion wasn't to judge how much brutal legend worth, I only said that you need to pay 7$ to get the game which turns out as even less than a 75% discount of the game.
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NO,you miss the point. You don't pay $40 to get expansion,you pay $60 to get both. That is the difference. It does not matter if you accept this or see it like that,its simply how it is. But I am tired of this here. Next time you are in a supermarket have a look out for "bundles" and apply your logic there. Or go to mcdonalds and upgrade to supersize.
Edit: oh,and just to be clear. No bad feelings to you,but it's running in circles here. Nothing against you personally :).
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In Mcdonalds can you buy fried potatoes without any burger? So don't explain to us your pointless imho.
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1$ non-BTA is a measure of inaccuracy in whole BTA price (it's only 1 against 8)
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I really don't see hiow you can't see something so simple, if you have A that costs 10$ and AB that costs 40$. that means that you pay extra 30$ above the 10$ for A to get AB. I don't say that you pay 30$ separately for B, but you pay 30$ above how much A costs to get AB.
EDIT; if you really want to stop then its ok, I'm just too obsessed with debating.
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Wait, people always pay for the full bundle? no, I for example bought the 1$ bundle, didn't want to pay the extra 7$ for brutal legend.
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No,you misunderstand me. If you go BTA you pay for the whole BTA bundle. And that is not just BL and the BL OST. You pay for BL,BL OST,Psychonauts, both Psychonauts OST,Stacking,Costume Quest and the DRM free versions. You can't just substract the $1 bundle since the BTA content is not available on its own.
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I didn't understand what you tried to mean with your last line. Let me make it even simpler, there is the base bundle Psychonauts, Stacking, Costume Quest for 1$, and there's an addition for the base bundle which is Brutal Legends for additional 7$. The problem is that you view the BTA addition as the base bundle, and not the minimum 1$.
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Oh,sorry,did a typo "can't". Corrected it. The BTA bundle can't be looked at seperately for $7. It is a common practice to sell more copies of "shit" you have. BL wouldn't have the price if it wouldn't come with the other games.
I don't view the BTA as a base bundle,I see it as the BTA bundle. You however split something which cannot be split in reality.
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I don't split anything, I don't understand why you can't see what I mean, you have something A that needs C, and A + B needs C + D, if you looked at it logically; A requires C and B requires D. I don't say whether you can get them separately or not, I say that to get B you pay D in addition. because for A you only need C.
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The point Don is trying to make is that you can't buy Brutal Legend by itself for $7. If I only had $7 and wanted to buy Brutal Legend, I'd be shit out of luck because the bundle is $8 and comes with 3 other games. It costs $7 more for Brutal Legend, but Brutal Legend doesn't cost $7. This is the reason why Crossbourne stated in another post on this thread that unless the BTA price approaches the retail price of all 4 games, Brutal Legend will likely remain on the bundle list.
"I guess it would be considered if the BTA was close to the retail price of all four games in the bundle. I can't speak for anyone though."
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Ok, But what I tried to explain him I don't say that you can buy it separately, I was just saying that you spend 7$ more to get Brutal Legends as well.
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Well, it would be nice if they could be separated, But the flow isn't that big to make a story of it, and you can't expect a flawless system to exist. So it's all ok as how it currently is.
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this rule killed brutal legend for giveaways totally.
There weren't many GA before but now there are none and for a bundle game this is something unusally.
(there are tons normally!)
no one is willing to pay 8$ and get no CV in return, its really a shame I would have liked to get some chances for winning this since im not interested in the other games in the bundle.
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http://www.steamgifts.com/game/7SJKm/brutal-legend - I count about 25-30 public/CV giveaways total since its release. Yeah. It's been killed. It was simply being thrown all over the place before this.
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It hadn't even had the chance to hit a 75% discount yet which is usually the trigger-point for both personal purchases as well as those made for giveaways. The low numbers are hardly surprising really when you just stop to think for a second.
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It's like DonVino has been saying. Sure the BTA average is high if you consider only Brutal Legend but you are getting a lot more than Brutal Legend for that price.
You can't just ignore the rest of the bundle to make your argument sound better, that is just straight up stupid.
PS: I love the community on this site.
If we left it off of the bundle list, people would whine and complain. When we bundle it, people whine and complain.
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1$ non-BTA bundle is only a MAKEWEIGHT for normal bundle (with BL)
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doesnt change the fact that there are no giveaways because of this since its on bundle list.
and since there are no giveaways while the bundle is still selling, you wont see any in future also.
and no one will buy it in future from other places to giveaway because of the bundle status.
So yes Brutal Legend is killed.
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Yeah, because there was A PLETHORA of giveaways before this.. http://www.steamgifts.com/game/7SJKm/brutal-legend. I count approximately ~25-30 that were given away since the game's release in the public/contrib area, not including private/group.
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check out other games on bundle status there are always many giveaways as long as the bundle is active.
Not in this case there is none active giveaway, and guess why?
I understand all your viewpoints, but it is no use for anyone.
We would benefit more if this game would not be counted as bundle in this special case this time.
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I have to agree on this... The other 3 games are not much known, but yet, are games, worth 10$ or more each, and yet capable of giving some nice hour of fun... I like these bundles.
The SteamGift wasn't meant to feed the CV or those who wants everything for free, anyway... If I can get myself the things for few money, like in this time, I pay and I have no problems to do it...
And besides, you can't blame a bundle if you won't be winning a BL, since you are not having 100% chances of win anyway, you might not win it even if there were 100 giveaways.
If you want it fast, open your pocket. Simple as that.
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In this one case the community would more benefit from it when it will be removed from the list because now there will be not much giveaways for it any longer (no active ones right now and only 2 since bundle started not bad at all but compared to usual numbers almost nothing).
8$ is high enough so it cant be much abused (as long as the other games still count as bundled)
Even when the game comes to a -75% sale it will be only 5$ so yes really no danger for abusing this.
I understand the viewpoint of DonVino and TheShobo but I think we all want to see some Brutal Legends GA in the future (its really a shame in the first place that high price bundle games will not anylonger be gifted here only because of CV!) so please make an exception for this one, like i said the community would more benefit from it this time if we make an exception.
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I HOPE they won't remove it just for this...
Giveaways are free, just accept what are being gave to you, without wanting more...
If I had money to spare I'd buy it for you, since you complain so much, but since I haven't I'll buy it just for MYSELF and you'll have 1 less contender when they will offer BL on SG... :P
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you dont have to. :)
If I would wanted to play it right away that badly I would buy it myself too for sure.
I will wait until the -75% sale from steam now so all fine for me.
its just sad that there are no giveaways right now only because of the bundle list.
Im sure if SG would not have any CV it would be given away. (so we are at a point in which the bundle list is actually hurting us)
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I get it now, TC wants more value out of donating to charity, its obvious to me now that all that matters is how much CV I get when I donate to charity.
Duh, how could I be so blind, I have been a fool, I must look like a real ass right now, sorry Valko.
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Even the former Secretary of State makes mistakes sometimes, don't be so hard on yourself.
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90% off Rome and Trains, or the 3 AAA games (Bioshock 1&2/Borderlands GotY/ DNK Complete/Darkness 2, etc) for $7.49/$10 from Amazon.Com is a better deal than Brutal Legends is from Humble. Plus Brutal Legends will go 75% off in the future, maybe even as soon as the Summer Sale. Perhaps this should be given the same consideration as Windowsil (To BTA for it cost more than the game cost itself at full price, although you did get a $10-15 (forget the price and movie title) movie about a Doll with it when you BTA) so it was intentionally left off the Bundle List. That or the Brutal Legend Sound Track edition should be added to the creation list since the Sound Track from HB is not handled by Steam (I assume, since the other DF games Soundtracks are all Downloads via HB only) and therefore wouldn't count as part of the Sound Track edition. This would allow BL to not be jaded so early in its life and encourage more giveaways of it (or at least of the Sound Track Edition when it goes on 75% off or better)
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tl;dr. If it can't be like Windowsil, at least add Brutal Legend Sound Track edition to the Creatable Giveaways list as it isn't the same as what is given in the Humble Bundle and isn't available right now in the list.
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It has extremely high BTA for the bundled game - so why it counts as bundled?
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