Blacklists. And ethics. (GAs ended)

To be honest I've never had anyone ask me why they were blacklisted or even mention being blacklisted. I however don't have that big of a blacklist nor do I do alot of public giveaways. I supose I got discouraged by regifters and people not marking recieved, so I tend to keep my giveaways invite only, whitelist or group giveaways.

I think if it's your giveaway, your charity, you get to set your own terms(within reason of course). It should be seen as an honor to be able to enter someones giveaways, someone elses charity, not a given right. Just because you give something doesnt niether mean your entitled to get something back, charity is charity. You should be grateful when you do win, and show respect to the person that's been kind enought to make the donation in the first place.

Thank you for that elaboration, you seem to be quite talented at painting various parallels to how I feel about blacklisting people.

Screw the cryptics, thanks for the train. Your artworks look really amazing :)

I'm afraid to comment. I feel like I'll just be randomly blacklisted by someone. I'll just walk away slowly and quietly.

I pretty much only blacklist repeat regifters. Havnt had had much trouble with people on here to blacklist them for anything else. But yeah blacklist those dirty regifters.

I just dont use that option (blacklisting). But yes. Level restriction helps a little :< And here is a secret for ya:

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I'm sure all people in your blacklist deserve this. I mean - I'm not there, what could possibly be wrong?

I think that the only acceptable reasons for BL are scamm, regifting and etc . And may be BL people that BL you is fair enought. I'll never punish somebody for different opinion.

But this is minor and you don't need to overthink about it, it's better to concentrait at your talant :)

Bump. I haven't blacklisted anyone, I just make most my giveaways high contrib level. I'm only on one blacklist I know of, and that's cause I said thanks on the guy's giveaways. Since then I only say thanks when people ask for it. Oh well. Thanks for all the giveaways!

People that are on Your blacklist propably deserved that, I don't question it. I actually had luck and ran on fine guys with my giveaways, I guess. Thanks for train, bumping :)

I tend to only blacklist regifters and the likes (like those who don't redeem their games for whatever other reason) or people who make deliberately aggressive comments on the forums; everyone else is fine by me. I only wish I could gift more games... I still have quite a few bundle spare keys left, but then I always feel like I'm just being a cheap-ass bastard or something :(

I've never talked to you before, but you blacklisted me a long time ago. I understand you blacklisting me for a poor ratio, but I've never had anyone blacklist me before so it was just shocking. Blacklist as you wish and good luck on trying to find the fun in SG again.

First of all, I want to say thank you for the VERY long train. It was awesome :)

Secondly, I want to say I know how you feel. I tried blacklisting on occasion when I happen across rule breakers and regifters and such but ultimately felt so guilty about it, that I had to remove them. To offset it, I usually just make giveaways with levels set that the general rule breaker doesn't meet. I haven't done a ton of giveaways but in all this time I've only had one person that didn't activate a win from me. Recently though I had a winner that never said a word to me after winning, no thank you or anything and it kind of put me off a little. The sense of entitlement on this site can be pretty horrendous sometimes but there are a lot of outstanding, generous and awesome people here that give Steamgifts it's true heart and I think that's why we all keep coming back and giving our all to make this place the best we can.

I'd kinda like to track why I blacklist people, but I haven't bothered. Most of them, I assume I did it for a good reason. Thankfully, no one has yet asked why they were blacklisted. A couple of them are just mutual -- and I've otherwise nothing against the person.

so far I'm okay with my and others' blacklist - nobody really bothered me with mine (only one polite question and reasoning) and thankfully I've also had no issues with finding myself blacklisted. Hopefully this will stay this way :)

The only blacklisting I have done are a few people that I actually had in a text file due to some forum posts and threads going back over a year (directly after the Boston bombing), and more recently people who are repeat regifting or regifting the big developer giveaways. I need to remember to whitelist people when I see them posting helpful stuff or just being generally good in the community.

I tend to ignore the comments of people asking why they were in the blacklist. And yeah, there are people that have a more permanent place in the blacklist and those who are only temporarily there.

Since I'm a GA newbie I haven't used the blacklist feature, and don't think I ever will.
Simply because locking stuffs behind topics and/or level usually sort out the bad seeds.
As for why someone blacklists that's their own business. Their GA, their rules.

Luckily my experience here on SG has been a lot better so far. Granted the game from one of my early GAs disappeared from the winners inventory after a few days without ever being added to his libary but other then that I haven't had major problems. Back then I made I a thread about it asking for advice and started putting level restrictions on almost all of my public GAs. Lvl 2 is the minimum, mostly Lvl 3. I also started being very thorough, checking if the winner had activated all of their previous wins which lately got a lot easier due to the SG Tool and checking if they had activated their game afterwards. I also exclusivly deliver gifts directly over steam (unless its a code) which might be just my personal preferance but I think it also makes the whole process a little more personal and might help some people doing the right thing.

I use the blacklist feature mainly for major rule infractions like regifting, trading won games or fake / misleading GAs but in very extreme cases I have also blacklisted people I consider toxic to the community.

I've recently for the first time had a few people ask why they were blacklisted and to my large surpise all of those conversation turned out to be quite positive experiences.

I used to think blacklists are a childish thing back in SGV1. Now I'm glad we have this feature. There really are some people I don't want to gift games to.
Bump!

i personally don't like the idea of blacklists and whitelists (it's a gray area, hur hur) as it creates a clique-y atmosphere at SG, but i have blacklisted a few known re-gifters and never do it arbitrarily. at least the lists give you some control over that, and it's better than not existing at all. i don't enter giveaways of games i would never play, but for better or worse, people are free to do what they want here within the specified set of rules.

appreciate the ride. don't forget: many people out there appreciate your generosity.

Well ironically it would seem that you have blacklisted me, so I'd like to request the reason. :)

Whining about how a user wins "only crap games" is definitely a reason to blacklist for me - if you think it's a crap game, then you didn't want to play it in the first place - why enter then? Or at least, boast your library as thousands of users do here for no apparent reason, but at least, don't say that a gift a stranger has given to you is "crap". That annoys the hell out of me...

As for users blacklisting me, I've only found out two so far. One of them had blacklisted me because over three corners he heard something bad about me, aparently. The other one, I don't know, don't care, because the user only makes private-group GAs, which I can't enter and I've apparently never entered a GA of that user for the last year or even longer... Pointless blacklisting is pointless lol. In any case, I don't really bother to talk to the users who've blacklisted me. I blacklist them myself, that's it.

But honestly, my blacklist is fairly small, because I don't bother actively checking for people who I should/could blacklist. So far, only severe cases (racism, bigotry, homophobia, and so on) have made it up my list, including some severe regifters or people with a way-out-of-place-ratio (like 3x wins than given and simultaneously huge libraries). But I rather stumble upon such behavior than looking for it. In any way, so far nobody has talked to me about being on my BL, I don't know how I'd react if a user talked to me about the reasons I've blacklisted him/her.
I do check my whitelist though, if people maintin the criteria I've put up for it.