All this talk about net neutrality has got me thinking about how much a free market actually does to keep price competitive, especially with all the monopolies that telecommunication companies have all over the world.

I currently pay $40 USD a month for 200Mbps fibre internet, home line with free local calls and a "slightly" unreliable IPTV. And more for cable TV obviously. I could have 1 Gbps for the same price without IPTV but no switching mobile phones every year. So how much do you pay for your internet? I live in Singapore BTW and I feel so bad about complaining right now...

Actually I just want to give away a copy of Contrast but need a reason to open a thread. LVL 1 and above only though.

Edit: Over sorry.

P.S. Obligatory John Oliver video. That man's a genius.

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Do you feel ripped off by your telco/carrier?

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I have 300 Mbps download, 300 Mbps upload, and I pay for it about 10$/month. So I'm not ripped off :)

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I pay 13.73 Euros for 100 mb/s internet + satellite tv

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At current exchange rates, about $50 for 4Mbit up / 0.5 Mbit down with a 90 GiB peak time cap (and a separate off-peak cap for 12am-6am)

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Ukraine here. 4$/month for 100MBps

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haha and you complain with such provider? I got 2 mbps for 15$ and I have to pay another 10$ for local phone number, another 15$ for TV. And they ain't even some premium shit.

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I did not pay for mine internet connection, Payebod once something like 4 $ and now it's free, but with low mbps transfer.

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I pay about the same amount as you do to get 4mbps internet in this damn 3rd world country called Malaysia

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~30 USD/month for 2Mbps. Brazil. :(

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€30 for know, its a 2 year contract, and on the second year the price increases to 35€ i think, 100Mbps and 20Mb Up, though its a little above that
200mbps fibre internet is too expensive for me, i think i would have to pay around 90€

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$44 (40€) for 3Mbps (download) and 500Kbps (upload). I live in a rural area where no ISPs can give me service. I have a Wimax contract.

I live in Spain.

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12-13 euros for internet(100mbps), tv and phone

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20-ish $ a month for 10Mbps and basic cable package

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37 £ a month for 13Mbps ..that sucks..

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Lol dafaq, is that the post office broadband? Complete ripoff imo.

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No it is not post office broadband :) It is just ripoff 100%
There is some kind of problem with line ,which they try to ''fix'' for some time now..

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15 $ for 500 Mbit and there is no download limit^^

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paying 200$ yearly for a 2mbps dsl with limited download/upload traffic (around 60 gb I think). higher speed internet is not allowed for common people's use.
I must say my download speed is barely around 250 kbps and upload around 27 kbps. I am not happy with it cause it sucks but I am also happy with it cause it's the best internet around.
also my local ping is 74 ms and my google ping is 250 ms.

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70€ for 100.000 Mbit down / 6.000 Mbit up. Also included: pay-tv and telephone. (And no bandwith cap)

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I pay 44,95€ for V-DSL 25 (it's about 24,8mb down and 5mb up), TV (some HD channels), and phone

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move to Hamburg

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But I like my little small village :3 (dafür, dass ich in einem so kleinen Dorf lebe, ist das Internet echt gut. Mit Kabel Deutschland würde es evtl. auch noch schneller gehen, aber mir reicht die Geschwindigkeit aus.) =)

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almost 20$/month with 512 KBps, it suck!

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30 usd for 10mbps dl / 0.6mbps up

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Such a great price and no data caps either? That's great.

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80$ for 50GB a month (5Mbps/0.5 Mbps).

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We used to have an internet free from controls, and the free market kept everyone from abusing one another.

Then the control-freaks at the FCC passed a resolution called (ironically) "Net Neutrality", giving themselves control over the internet (3 votes to 2). Just wait until the taxes and restrictions hit and the tracking becomes more sophisticated.... George Orwell would be proud.

I wonder if anyone will notice that the FCC has no legal authority over the internet? Not that a small detail like that has stopped China....

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Very insightful. Why is no one talking about the larger issue at hand that you bring up? I also didn't realize there was even a problem until I heard about this case a few days ago. Actually, I'm still unsure about what the problem was.

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I don't think you understand what FCC is doing.

The idea of their net neutrality is that every data packet is being treated the same, none shall be throttled and none shall be prioritized. Because that's what's happening right now: forbidding p2p protocols and charging content providers (like netflix) because they are causing so much traffic. Without that traffic, the ISPs could close down though, no content, no consumer.

And that free market you're talking about is not free at all, it's an oligopoly! Ever wondered why US customers pay 70-120 $/month for a cellphone plan? That's a ridiculous amount of money, here in Germany for example you would get the same service for about 30$ a month.

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It would seem I understand it far better than you do. Read what the two dissenting experts on the FCC Board had to say about the regulations that were passed.

Bits and pieces of what you've mentioned are true, but I'm afraid you have swallowed the propaganda, hook, line, and sinker. We may have surviveded 1984 without George Orwell's nightmarish vision of The State having become manifest, but we still continue the march toward its fulfillment because the masses are complacent in their ignorance and happy to embrace the lies they are fed on a daily basis. How else do you think Obama managed to get elected, twice, despite being totally unqualified for the job and utterly inept in office? Anyone familiar with German history would be aware of how easily a population may be led astray.

History keeps repeating itself because we do not learn from our mistakes. Only once the fire has burned through our shoes to our feet do we wake up, but by then it is too late.

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FCCs new rules clearly state:

  • No Blocking: broadband providers may not block access to legal content, applications, services, or non-harmful devices.
  • No Throttling: broadband providers may not impair or degrade lawful Internet traffic on the basis of content, applications, services, or non-harmful devices.
  • No Paid Prioritization: broadband providers may not favor some lawful Internet traffic over other lawful traffic in exchange for consideration of any kind—in other words, no “fast lanes.” This rule also bans ISPs from prioritizing content and services of their affiliates.

If I understand you correctly, you would rather have your ISP block and throttle your traffic if your ISP feels like it, perhaps because you're using Netflix instead of their own video streaming service. Or you're using some VoIP on your cellphone instead of paying the regular minutes to them.

Also, I'm not talking about 1984 at all, because that's a whole different matter (quite frankly, I think you haven't survived it, you're in the middle of it and it's just getting worse)

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I'll ignore the puerile insults and stick to the point.

  • The document the FCC passed is bigger than the Post-It required to contain the points you've listed above.
  • The points you listed above were used to lever public opinion to prevent any backlash against the FCC illegally seizing control.
  • The regulations continue to remain secret, known only to those who voted for and against them (some of whom are warning us).
  • The "imminent threat" you outline, above, has been successfully held in check by market pressures for the past .35 years or so.
  • Despite "checks and balances," the government has continued to expand its control over our lives. This is just another step.

The reason I mention 1984 is because the book is relevant. Just how relevant you will see within the next 30 years.

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I know that the whole regulations are still secret, but apparently you have more insight of what they actually contain. From what I've gathered they are not yet released because they are waiting for input from the dissident commissioners.

I'm not sure where I wrote anything about "imminent threats", but I would like to remind you that Comcast already throttled Netflix content in the past.

Government is not taking control of your life, but giving you back freedom of data traffic. I consider blocking/throttling of data censorship.

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