I've seen quite a few threads on this topic, yet I still can't make up my mind of taking the risk and purchasing a Russian copy for 7 keys or purchasing a ROW copy for around 17 or so keys. Is it likely that the Russian copies will become unavailable for playing upon its release, and will the Russian version of the game have any modifications (e.g scene cuts, different languages etc.)? Are copies bought from the regions listed here (https://steamdb.info/sub/41074/) all true ROW copies? If so, what would be the lowest possible price for a copy?

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when i got it from a russian seller the id was still NA-RU so i think my copy is fine, now that there is a only RU version i'm not sure if the game will have changes

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same for me. i bought as soon as possible to prevent getting a RU version. over 9 months before release, my longest preorder ever, lol.

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You both need to check to see your copy has changed. There is no NA-RU package available on SteamDB at all. Its either RU, EU, or ROW (nothing). I posted steps in this thread to find out about the copies on your account.

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i have 41074 (non-RU), bought in June. thanks for the tipp.

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is it possible to look at a steam gifts ID? cuz i got witcher 3 from kinguin and im scared it RU

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Activate it immediately, if the game is in your library it wont get lock.
Or if it will get you can ask steam support to delete the game from your library and refund your keys, because there was no any warning about the lock.

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Does Steam usually do these kind of refunds?

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No they don't, since you didn't buy it from the store, you traded it for keys.

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Did you already experienced this?

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No, I haven't traded for it yet.

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They won't give you any support for traded games except for reversing the trade if it was originally purchased with a stolen credit card or something. I traded for a game that was supposed to give a free bonus copy but didn't, it was clear that the problem was on their end, but support person Billy just billshitted me endlessly that nothing could be done because I traded for it.

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if it has a different sub id than the ROW versions, it can of course get a lock later. this has happened before.

and valve won't refund anything you didn't buy directly from them.

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"and valve won't refund anything you didn't buy directly from them"

they refund fraudulently purchased gifts :)

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ok, that's the one exception. :)

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there are sellers that offer a ROW copy for less than 10 keys man, just search deeply at steamtrades

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Lowest price according to Steamdb seems to be around $33 in Mexico, which country has it for 10k worth?

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sadly purchases of big games like witcher 3 or assassins unity are region locked and can only be activated in mexico and south america

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no, they don't. that's the russian version. it has no lock as of now, but it may very well get one. still a long way 'til release.

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I bought a RU copy for 7 tf2.
I hope it wont get locked else I have to buy a new one ;)
Nothing's certain but I think I'm safe. I dont think they will lock already activated copies.

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http://www.steamtrades.com/forum/Xw1Mr/h-the-witcher-3-row-w-85-tf2-keys-1450-via-paypal
I havent traded with this person before, but he/she has a lot of reputation, just ask him/her if the witcher copy is RU tagged or something before trading.

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The RU copies aren't tagged at all right now.

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Same thing I have swapped TW3 RU and activated in July, and there gift dnt have red writing that said it was the Russian version.

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It doesn't matter if it has the red writing or not. It still could very easily be a RU version.

There's only one way to check.

  • Go into any Steam chatroom (i.e. I picked one that was empty)
  • Type this (without the quotes) "steam://nav/console"
  • Click the link that comes up with that same text.
  • That opens the Steam console, you'll see a blank screen that looks like a text box
  • Type this: "licenses (underscore) for (underscore) app 292030"

I wrote out underscore b/c SG has a trigger for italics when you use an remove (underscore) and put without spaces between the words.

That will show you whether you have the RU version or not.
License The Witcher 3 RU (47807):

  • State : Active( flags 0 )
  • Apps : 292030, (1 in total)
  • Depots : 292031, (1 in total)

This is what the RU version shows (+ date purchased and other not important info).

The thing is they could change these numbers, pointing to a locked version, but I don't know if it would retroactively affect already activated copies. We won't know for a while for sure, but even without the red text it still could be a problem if they retro lock the game even for activated copies.

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Thanks for that console tutorial, I never knew about it. :P

I'm happy to say that my expensive, early bought RU copy (12 tf2 keys in June) is completely region free!

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Same here, this one is not tagged RU or anything else.
I only hope they will not restrict EU users like me from playing without the EU package (45854).

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Oh God, RU TAG for me. Hope they will not restrict the game with "OnlyAllowRunInCountries". :S

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Did just that and this came out.
License The Witcher 3 (41074):

  • State : Active( flags 0 ) - Purchased : Tue Jul 1 14:34:43 2014 in "RU", Guest Pass

What does it mean?

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that means you're fine.

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That's a big relief. Thanks mate!

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Thank you. I have the same number and "Guest Pass" tag, which concerned me.

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License The Witcher 3 RU OLD (47807):

  • State: Active( flags 0 ) - Purchased : Mon Oct 13 22:01:47 2014 in "AM", Guest Pass

  • Apps: 292030, (1 in total)

  • Depots: 292031, (1 in total)

so i got this in my console..what does this mean? :S
please someone reply..

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You have RU OLD version.

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Here is the thing. CDProjekt seriously deserves to be paid the full price. They are even giving you a 20% discount (if you own the previous games, 10% if you don't). The game will be amazing, there is no doubt about that. But if you buy a russian copy, there is always the risk that you'll get locked out of the game. It's not worth it.

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+infinity to this

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+1272

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Well, a lot of people will simply not buy the game at full price.
If they can't find cheaper versions that fit their budget, they will simply not buy the game. In that case the developer misses out on the sale.

So its really subjective if people feel that the developer deserves more of their money for a game.

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I don't really get it, Witcher 3 is ru locked already.

Check steamdb for ru version: it has "AllowCrossRegionTradingAndGifting=No", that means you won't be able to activate it outside ru/cis (unless you use vpn or shit, which is against SSA). Already activated gifts (bought before this lock) should be okay, though.

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Except its not entirely clear.

There are plenty of RU copies available for trade that can be traded cross region (yet you still end up with an RU copy). I traded for mine just a few weeks ago without any problems via Dispenser. It may be that copies purchased after that got added are affected in this way, but there's still no telling what you're getting until its activated and you check then.

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*until you try to activate it and fail with "You're in the wrong region to activate it"-error message

you meant? Anyway, I already have it (won on SG), so not my problem, damn, it feels good to be me.

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Uh no. It depends on when it was purchased whether its cross tradable or not. I was able to trade for & activate the Russian copy without any problems. There was no mark on the gift whatsoever.

And you may have an RU licensed version espc since you only won it a month ago. You need to check via the Steam console (I posted steps in this thread) to see what license you have.

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That AllowCrossRegionTradingAndGifting doesn't work on The Witcher 3 for some reason, so it's effectively region free.

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Right now you can buy it from russian sellers. In steam. But later it will be region locked. Already purchased copies of game dont get changes later, cuz you buying Region-free copy of game.

https://steamdb.info/app/292030/ link to russian version of witcher 3(what i see on steam store).
Its not region locked.

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If it has different SubID, then it means it will have "you can only play with Russian IP" information when it gets released, just like Witcher 1 and Witcher 2.

Some RU copies had same SubID as NAmerica, others have their own SubID.

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i dont undertand this game,why they make pre-order almost 1 year before released?
Mostly pre-order game just take 6 months before they released.

10 years ago
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Game is not already done, but...
Game of 2015

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Because people will throw money at them, and why refuse money on the table?

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e.g scene cuts
HaHa

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Censor, that's what he means.

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RU Version locked :( https://steamdb.info/sub/47807/

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It's not locked.

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Still the same as weeks ago, not locked (yet)

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I got.mine off dispenser.tf for less than 7 keys.
It activated just fine for me. Can it block my access to it at a later date?

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Yes, if it has RU tag.

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I could not see any tags on it neither was there any red writing when I saw it in my inventory. How do I confirm if its row or not once I have added the game to my library?

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it is most likely a RU version. you can check that with the method described above in this thread (and comparing the app id to steamdb.info).

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the tag is irrelevant. it's the sub-id that matters.

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I have a invetore gift, it is not specified on the restriction of the region .....

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On Dispenser.tf a ROW copy is going for as low as 7 keys.

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how can you spot ROW copies on dispenser?

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You can't. The problem with this game is that despite it being tagged RU or what not, its not actually tagged like normal where the gift has red writing when viewed in inventory or on dispenser a game would say "Mario Bros (RU)" .

Its a problem w/ Witcher 3 at the moment. The only way to tell what copy you get is after activation.

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You can check classid with extension.

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Which one? SteamDB and Enhanced Steam don't seem to do it unless there's an option I'm missing.

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Found a solution.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/<idname>/inventory/json/753/1
or
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/<profileid>/inventory/json/753/1

Will spit out json of the user's inventory, including the classid.

It looks like the ROW version has a classid of 503610743

While the cheaper RU store version has a classid of 531428465

Haven't found any 0743's trading for less than ~42. Still can't decide if I'm going to purchase from steam or GOG directly.

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mine shows "License The Witcher 3 (41074):

  • State : Active( flags 0 ) - Purchased : Wed Nov 05 22:11:19 2014 in "RU", Guest Pass
  • Apps : 292030, (1 in total)
  • Depots : 292031, (1 in total)"

Is that safe or not?

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Is Russian Version and is not safe, but anyway developer say "No Drm" http://www.pcgamer.com/cd-projekt-ceo-the-witcher-3-will-have-no-drm-0-zero-zip-nada/

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but it has got differ ID...i dunno now

"This item can not be purchased in Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Republic of, Russian Federation, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Ukraine."

On SteamDB

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They said the same about previous games, and surprise surprise, you can't play RU/CIS Witcher outside of RU/CIS.

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i don't think so. witcher 1+2 only have purchase restrictions. but you can play them just fine:

https://steamdb.info/sub/995/
https://steamdb.info/sub/8557/

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I think you look at wrong Witcher 2 - https://steamdb.info/sub/13944/ .

But you might be right about Wither 1.

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no, this is NOT the russian version. it's the ROW version, bought in russia. that's a difference. 41074 should be totally fine. the russian version is 47807.

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thanks god,i was scarry that W3 which i buy for 10€ is RU version...

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As much as some of you might be "steam elites" don't fret if your copy gets locked, you can activate the steam key on GOG for a drm free copy on GoG just like The Witcher 2.

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AFAIK, it's not confirmed yet for Witcher 3 right?

Would be great if it is, though.

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I think they confirmed that it WON'T be available for The Witcher 3 on launch because codes would get resold.

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so whats with that "License The Witcher 3 (41074)" version? Its not tagged as RU,is it safe?

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41074 is the ROW version. You're fine. 47807 is RU.

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Thanks for this!

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The likelihood of the game being locked(after activating, that is) is fairly close to exactly zero.

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wrong, this has happened before.

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Developers say no block TW3 http://www.pcgamer.com/cd-projekt-ceo-the-witcher-3-will-have-no-drm-0-zero-zip-nada/, so i think no block the game but i want know is RU Version have all languages.

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of course

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Looks like it got locked in Russia.

Can't be bought as gift anymore + trading lock (no idea if it works).

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As noted by Madjoki, there's been an update to Russian gifts. The game is no longer giftable/tradable in Russia unless they use an exploit to do it. However, those of us who traded for this game and ended up with a Russian copy, there's been a change on the SteamDB.

Now: https://steamdb.info/sub/47807/ is "The Witcher 3 RU OLD". This is what you have if you have SUBID 47807.

New copies purchased in the Russian store (https://steamdb.info/sub/54530/) have this: "The Witcher 3 RU Copy"

They're two seperate packages with different SUBIDs. The old Russian tradables have 47807. The new untradable ones have 54530.

If you have already activated the game, you do not have to worry about having 54530. They didn't change already activated copies. If you have one sitting in your inventory, I have no information on what to tell you as I dont know if unactivated copies have been changed. If you want to make sure of what you do have already activated, I posted steps to check via the Steam console in this thread.

My guess: They will add a "onlyallowrunin" tag to the new 54530 SUBID. There are a lot of people that have the 47807 RU Version and I doubt Valve or the dev will want to shut out a huge # of people and deal with that hassle, especially since the RU OLD package did not have the red warning writing, which I believe would cause issues if they shut someone out and there was no warning. My guess is those of us with the old RU version (47807) will be okay once the game is released.

I would advise against getting this game at all anymore via a Russian trader b/c there is an exploit that allows it to be purchased still and you won't know what you're getting until activation. I do not know if the new 54530 SUBID has the red region warning in inventory, in fact its probably impossible to get as a tradable anyway since it cant be purchased as a gift. The worry is if unactivated copies have been affected by this change.

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Unconfirmed, but seems like they still are tradeable despite locks.

You can check which version is in inventory with extension that shows ClassID. (SteamDB extension iirc.)

ROW: 503610743
RU OLD: 531428465

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Is there a way to find out the SubID before purchasing it? maybe after add it to the cart? I do usually buy steam keys from a chinese online stores, usually DLCs since they can't be region locked since main game is NA version. I am wondering if i can ask the vendor to show a screen shot that proofs which SubID keys they are selling?

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Nope. Not from a key purchase. I doubt you can even get a key for this game yet. You can see it in a gift trade though.

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There won't be steam-keys for this. If you buy from elsewhere, you get gog-key.

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The Witcher 3 RU have 2 version:

The Witcher 3 RU OLD: https://steamdb.info/sub/47807/

The Witcher 3 RU: https://steamdb.info/sub/54530/

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It's been mentioned already (also it was only added a week ago, way after topic was created).

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Yeah, need only confirmation is RU OLD is ROW and no region block.

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RU Old is still unlocked.

RU is too, but it can be locked later (It needs exploit to purchase as a gift, so there's no legit way to get outside of those areas).

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I do not understand, however, why these two differences in the way if TW3 RU OLD is blocked because it does not put it with TW3 RU?
I'm reading that this version OLD can be blocked (although gift had not written in red) if it happens and why do two versions?

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RU OLD will not be blocked. RU however is a different story.

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But is not sure 100% :(

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I'm more sure about RU OLD not being blocked than RU not being blocked. I hope you're not confused ;)

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I hope ur right

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They wouldn't create new one just for fun.

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If they wanted to lock every russian copy, they wouldn't create a new RU sub id at all. Older RU copy was somehow bugged and it acted like a ROW copy with no red restriction warning in the description at all. Since too many people bought it with or without knowing that, adding a play lock later would just create a mass shitstorm around them and Valve. So they simply create another RU sub id and made older one unavailable for purchase. And this is exactly why CD Project Red deserves full support. Most developers would just retroactively lock every single RU copy and didn't give a shit about their customers at all, but CDPR actually let early buyers to play their copies freely.

Long story short, "RU OLD" tagged copies are basically ROW and won't have any play or language restriction. But I advise everyone NOT TO BUY any cheap Witcher 3 copies from now on, since they might have new RU tag which can get play lock later.

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General note: those red restrictions can be added at release date, making all people who bought them REALLY HAPPY.

RU OLD shouldn't be locked, as it's also North America version (but then it can, which would make EU people happy :P ). Current RU version will probably get play-locked like Witcher 2 is (used to be?).

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I got RU OLD, I hope they wont block that.

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