The idiotic comments here don't surprise me. Why do people get so offended once they learn that someone doesn't eat meat? The OP isn't trying to push their views on you, they just asked a simple question. There's no need for all of this hate. Quit being so closed-minded.
Anyway, in response to your question, Albodacious... I'm not a vegan, though I am a vegetarian.
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I could go into a long boring diatribe about the nature of man, but ..
TLDR version : people are stupid.
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You do realize that that isn't the OP trying to push their views on anyone, that's a response to a stupid troll comment...
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the internet is a harsh jungle, people don't get sarcasm or jokes here xD there even seem to be a group of people now who believe i want to push veganism on them. like i care what the heck they do, i don't even know them >_<
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Odd, I see more omnivores/carnivores doing that on this thread (and of course, just plain trolls)
And no, I'm neither vegetarian nor vegan.
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My comment was mostly just a mockery based on the stereotype set on vegans.
I'm absolutely fine with vegan people as long as they don't try to convince me to eat differently, but because I work on a job which involves the occasional dealing with vegans, and it just happens that every single one of them so far have been attention-craving assholes, it only strengthen the stereotype and kinda makes me sick just to hear anyone mention "vegan". :P
But like I said, I'm definitely okay with anyone who mind their own business and don't try to push their beliefs down my throat. Don't be an asshole to me, and I won't be one to you.
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If only this whole vegan thing was more about people's eating habits and less about being a part of some community...
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Exactly. I have a feeling that the stereotype we immediately label and consider to be "vegan" is actually vegan "activists". Because you're a vegan doesn't mean you need to push veganism on other, but it just happens that most vegans are "activists" assholes who want the entire world to change to suit them better.
Basically, assholes are assholes, and they unfortunately cause bad stereotypes on certain group of people. :P
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assholes are assholes
True, too bad they are the majority in every group. Or they are at least loudest.
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Or they are at least loudest.
That's actually exactly it. Let's say that 10 people go in a store, three of them are asshole. The three assholes are loud and annoying, the first thing you'll assume is, "these ten people were assholes".
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"stereotypes that float around that a vegan will always tell you he is vegan"
Thread name
"Any other vegans here?:)"
Sorry, I had to...
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darn and im a vegan atheist, how will i ever cope!
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each time i meet a vegan/vegetarian in real life, i get lectured by them because they are always more awesome than me, and i'm immoral and have no respect toward animals.
also, it seems they always have to point out what they eat, all the time
sorry that this thread got so much hate by omnivores, but leaving aside rl experiences is hard.
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That is so very true, unfortunately.
"How do you find out someone's vegan? - You don't have to, they will tell you within the first three minutes of you meeting them."
And honestly, even though this is meant to be some kind of joke, it is what most of them tend to do.
Edit: Ha, I just noticed someone else posted this a little further down already. Well...
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It's not very smart of them then, since you can't force anyone and people don't want to feel commanded by others.
I noticed a very long time ago that it's pointless to teach anyone, sooner or later they will find out on their own (and then I get annoyed again because they tell me things all the time I tried to tell them years ago like my god, everyone should do what they want to do) ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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Then you might have talked to people that just turned vegetarian.
I never tell anyone about it until we are talking about food or go eating. And then I'm not telling them how disgusting and bad I think it is to eat meat, I just do my thing and am open to answer questions, if they have any.
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My family went vegan for 3 months, then my mom finally gave up and I finally had a happy quinoa-free life again.
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Not really. I eat mostly vegan/vege meals but I occasionally eat meat too.
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I'm not a vegan and most likely never will be, but I respect your choice. What is your main reason for being vegan anyway?
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Haha, I like your joke, but I'm actually interested in knowing what people's motivation is.
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That's actually an interesting site for people who might consider becoming vegetarian or vegan. But I do not have that interest :)
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If they're trying to make it look like plants aren't tough enough to deserve knives then that's just bullshit :D
Also, you don't need a knife to eat meat ^^
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Here there is the Forks Over Knives documentary film:
http://cosmosdocumentaries3.blogspot.it/2013/07/forks-over-knives-documentary-film.html
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Well, there's a lot of reasons for going vegan; morality, health, enviroment - sustainability...
I guess his 3 documentaries would sum it up pretty well:
Earthlings (morality)
Cowspiracy (enviroment - sustainability)
Forks over knives (health)
If you prefer to read I would recommend The China Study. I have myself studies about health and the human body as well about diet and nutrition and I advocate 9999999/10 for a vegan lifestyle -veganism ISN'T a diet, just want to remark it because a lot of people think it is-.
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Hmm, yes that is exactly why I find it so interesting to learn someone's personal reasons. I do believe in healthy eating, but I believe we have evolved as omnivores and there should be a balance between eating meat and vegetables. I also have some bad eating habits, I eat very few vegetables, I know it's not healthy. So that's why I won't change to a vegetarian or vegan lifestyle soon. I do find it disconcerting how animals bred for mass productions are sometimes treated and the enviromental impact this has. If I find the time I'll have a look into those documentaries, so thank you for that ;)
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Oh, no worries! It's good when people is open to debate and look forward to know more about other points of view without the goal of having reason, but to reason for ourselves. I thank you for your politeness, people normally forget that most of us ate meat before and we said things as "I could never go vegetarian/vegan" and make fun of it and then we have to deal to the exactly opposite situation :\
About what you said of being omnivores, it's a great deception, every earthling has been provided by nature all we need for being able to nourish ourselves, and we do not have natural resources for hunting. C'mon, we're not fast, our senses are poor in comparison to predators and eating raw flesh and organs it's not our thing. Also if you study the human body you can see we have the same features as frugivores, while herbivores share only some of them with us and omnivores/carnivores have totally different features (most of them biochemically and biologically). It's just a lot of research and asking the right questions...
What do believe to be true is it true or do we just believe it is because we were taught so and we didn't ever looked any further? Truth can be hard to see...
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Actually, there are many things hinting towards the fact that the earlier man hunted and ate meat. Namely, jaw bones structure, tools and weapons, etc. I won't try to drive you away from what you believe since nobody is actually absolutely sure about anything, but saying that human being omnivore is a deception seems like taking it a bit too far in my opinion.
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I said it because I've done my research... And I won't say that our ancestors ever ate meat, sometimes during the coldest days of the year when they couldn't gather fruits, seeds and berries the had to eat something, right? But I do think it's not comparable situation the one we are in now.
I let you here a vid by Dr. Greger about paleopoo.
Cheers!
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Most people tend to have difficulty with understanding views that don't coincide with their own imho. It's not always easy for me either but I try to keep an open mind as much as possible. I respect vegetarians at the very least for being much healthier than me and at least trying to spare animals from suffering.
I certainly am not an evolutionist, I accept what is the most likely with the knowledge that I have, we have teeth for consuming meat and our digestive tract (compared to other animals) is adapted to eating a combination of meat and vegetables/fruit. And there is a long documented history of humans eating a combination of meat, vegetables and fruit. We certainly aren't well adapted for hunting that's true, our best feature is our endurance and intelligence in that regard. Your frugivore theory is certainly interesting, I think it might be possible we started out like that before we developed tools, but honestly I do not know enough about the subject to make my own decision so I will default to what is generally accepted as truth. If you have any sources I would be interested in viewing them.
Nothing is true, everything is permitted. I always liked that video game quote, I do not believe anything is absolutely true, there's always the possibility that I and/or the majority of people are wrong about something.
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How do you know someone is a vegan? Don't worry, they will fucking tell you.
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How do you know someone is a vegan? Don't worry, the hoard of questioning omnivores around them will tell you. (i'm joking)
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How do you know someone's an omnivore? Don't worry, they'll find you and ask you dumb questions
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problem is, i did not tell you, i asked Other Vegans to make themselves know, you clearly arent one so what are you doing here then? xD
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I've been vegan for about 10 months now.
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They're murderers. :'( They don't care about the plants' pain or their feelings, they just want to consume them. And the worst is that they usually consume them alive. :'( MURDERERS! :@
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The silent scream of the vegetables is the sweetest sound in the universe...
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So, you're not producing any excessive saliva when seeing the picture below? o.O
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What? They're eating my family? :O I shall take my revenge! :@
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Oh, dear, when you see as much as one has seen and know as much as one knows, that is not delicious or attractive anymore.
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Well, I have seen a lot of food in my life, but I still want to eat that meat platter. :B
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But why? :( Some of them in your picture look tasty, but I prefer my picture. xD
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Maybe. Not sure though. Sometimes, when you don't eat something for a long time, then you desire it even more.
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Maybe you're talking about people addicted in chocolate, carbonated drinks, etc. But it's normal to crave something that you haven't eaten for a long time. For example, I have almost never eaten any cheese puffs in my whole life, only around 5 times, because I never really liked them, but sometimes, I'm thinking that I wouldn't mind eating 1 or 2 cheese puffs - and that's because a long time has passed since I last ate some. This doesn't apply on foods that you completely hate, of course. :P Anyway, the food pyramid includes meat and meat products, even junk food once in a while, so you can't exclude them from your diet.
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There are a lot of foods that taste sweet. o.O Bread, for example, that contains polysaccharides because they break to monosaccharides because of your enzymes, so you get a sweet taste. Potatoes too. Anyway, it's all about how addictive a substance is. :P
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Not sure if it's true or not but I read an article recently about some research done saying vegetarians get cancer more. Look it up if you're curious.
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and the thousand other articles that say the contrary, don't just look for one study that proves what you want to believe ;)
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Telegraph newspaper article from 29/3/2016: Long term vegetarian diet changes human DNA raising risk of cancer and heart disease. It quotes and has a link to a proper Scientific journal.
I encourage people to do their own research.
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I think it's talking about population-level changes in DNA over time, rather than a per-person effect. Populations with a long history of vegetarian diet supposedly developed an adaption that allowed them to absorb fatty acids more efficiently; same adaption may unfortunately increase the negative effects of a modern diet with lots of omega-6 vegetable oils etc. Obviously you can't go back and change the region your ancestors came from, but could be worth knowing about if confirmed. Not really vegan specific, but may be more relevant for vegans as we often have diets higher in omega-6.
That Telegraph article was a bit misleading though: 'long-term' meant generations long, not a few decades or something XD
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i'm vegan but i eat burgers, eggs, beef and pork when no one watches me.
i also use an iphone. :3
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Whats next? A game console? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY?!
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watches the conversation as I eat my burger...... mooooooo
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Where am I? Now that is the question. Greetings, my dear fellow. :}
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I'm not a vegan but man, fake meat are delicious. I really like them and their oh-so-fake texture, lol. Been having those since I grew a bit tired of real meat. Well, it's good to change and have variety every now and then, I'll probably go back to real meat later when I'm no longer so tired of them.
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i like mockmeats, been waiting forver for the bill gates funded ones to be available here
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where art thou O vegans?
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